transposing audio

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2011/03/05 13:54:11 (permalink)

transposing audio

If I select a vox audio clip, then process>transpose, then enter 1 in the amount, check the transpose audio box and select "radius solo (vocal)" then hit OK, it shows it processing to 100% and then turns to a flat line and shows busy (waited over 20 minutes).
Is this user error?
Thanks,
Randy

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    bmdaustin
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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/05 14:20:34 (permalink)
    Do you mean the clip's waveform is showing as a flat line and showing the word "busy"? I've had similar problems in 8.5 (I'm still waiting for X1 to settle down before upgrading). My solution has been to select the clip and "bounce to clip". This forces Sonar to redraw the waveform and usually results in retrieving the waveform.

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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/05 16:26:17 (permalink)
    bmdaustin


    Do you mean the clip's waveform is showing as a flat line and showing the word "busy"? I've had similar problems in 8.5 (I'm still waiting for X1 to settle down before upgrading). My solution has been to select the clip and "bounce to clip". This forces Sonar to redraw the waveform and usually results in retrieving the waveform.

    yes exactly as you described.
    Do you "bounce to clip" after or before transposing?
    Thanks,
    Randy
    post edited by g_randybrown - 2011/03/06 09:25:22

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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/06 10:01:28 (permalink)
    When I opened the project this morning I got a fatal error stating "cakewalk\shared utilities\internal\PCS-CakeSM.dll"
    I closed it and re-opened and it opened/played fine but all of the vox have a flatline graphically.
    Anyone tell me what's going on and why the transposing (1/2 step up) won't work?
    Thanks,
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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/06 14:42:43 (permalink)
    Can someone tell me how to rebuild the wav forms/audio peaks in these clips please?
    I can't find anything in the manual


    EDIT: never mind I was able to do it by converting to stereo and then converting back to mono...but maybe someone has a suggestion on transposing it?
    post edited by g_randybrown - 2011/03/06 14:52:55

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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/06 15:00:59 (permalink)
    g_randybrown


    If I select a vox audio clip, then process>transpose, ....
    I tried this and got a similar error.
    In the past I have always right clicked a clip then PROCSS EFFECT/AUDIO EFFECTS/CAKEWALK/TIME-PITCH STRETCH 2...
    That seems to work pretty well.
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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/06 17:00:42 (permalink)
    Well I tried that and now have no sound from that clip....weird eh? The one clip I did this to had no sound after doing it so I did an undo and still nothing while other clips in the same track play. I can see the peaks ok but there's no sound now....I suppose I could take all these clips into Sony Vegas but damn what a PITA you would think Sonar could handle something as simple as this!
    Thanks though SH,
    Randy

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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/06 17:14:11 (permalink)
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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/07 01:36:21 (permalink)
    Randy, there are a couple of other recent threads on pitch shifting, and there are several ways to do it, so maybe check out some of the other methods to see if less buggy for you.
    One way to do it is to right click on the part in the track view. Then choose Process effect/Audio effect/Cakewalk/Time-Pitch Stretch 2. Not sure if that is what you were doing? You can also use v-vocal. Check out the other threads too.
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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/07 11:00:57 (permalink)
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    Randy, there are a couple of other recent threads on pitch shifting, and there are several ways to do it, so maybe check out some of the other methods to see if less buggy for you.
    One way to do it is to right click on the part in the track view. Then choose Process effect/Audio effect/Cakewalk/Time-Pitch Stretch 2. Not sure if that is what you were doing? You can also use v-vocal. Check out the other threads too.

    Thanks Somerset I will do that.

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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/07 18:02:25 (permalink)
    You can also try emptying your picture cache. That will force Sonar to redraw all the waveforms.

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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/07 18:03:17 (permalink)
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    bmdaustin


    Do you mean the clip's waveform is showing as a flat line and showing the word "busy"? I've had similar problems in 8.5 (I'm still waiting for X1 to settle down before upgrading). My solution has been to select the clip and "bounce to clip". This forces Sonar to redraw the waveform and usually results in retrieving the waveform.

    yes exactly as you described.
    Do you "bounce to clip" after or before transposing?
    Thanks,
    Randy


    Bounce to clip after you've transposed and have the straight line (busy) scenario.

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    Re:transposing audio 2011/03/07 21:32:15 (permalink)
    bmdaustin


    You can also try emptying your picture cache. That will force Sonar to redraw all the waveforms.
     
     
    +1
     
    Everytime I have a problem transposing audio,  I empty my pic cache and everything works again.  There are a couple of functions that I run into this problem that empting the pic cache solves.
     

     
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