triggering SD3 with external drum kit

Hi everyone,

borrowed an electronic drum kit of a friend (budget volt voggenreiter?!?) and have been attempting to trigger the sounds in SD3, anyone know how to do this, haven't had much luck so far?

There appears to be only a midi out on the drum kit, so Ive hooked this to the midi in of my focusrite scarlett 18i6 (thought you needed two?). Do I have to add this drum kit to my MIDI controllers or something in edit >preferences of X1??

Cian

not ussualy..i use an alesis sr 16 and it synchs perfecto..just make sure your pluged into the right midi ports and dont forget to set the internal midi drum machine to SEND !! the info not recieve.,,as far as sonar there is nothing different you need to do exceot..and i say except..make sure you go into preferences and /midi/you must tick your usb/midi unit..if sonar doesnt see the cable your using to run the midi signal from/to..it wont care about you...i also use mtc to make the transport controls start my drum machine to trigger sd3..it all common sence bra..go figure it out now..good luck

I never use SD3 - is it GM mapped? 

the drum brain might not be GM mapped even if SD3 is (a lot of drum brains are not GM mapped).

unless BOTH are GM mapped you'd also need a drum map in order to send the correct MIDI notes to the correct kit pieces in SD3.

I just hooked up a small set of Rock Band 2 drums (pads and kick pedal). Works perfectly in X1/Session Drummer 3 with zero latency.

I have that Alesis SR-16 also. Just plugged it in and everything was mapped properly to the labels on the pads.

There were two drivers I had to download and install to use the Rock Band 2 drum pads ... Is it possible there are drivers you'll need for your midi drums before they will work?

Well ... zero latency is a bit of an exaggeration on my part. I should say no detectable latency. I'm running 3.9ms and I can't feel any delay.

I did my first project with Rock Band drum pads the other night. What a difference. I'll probably never touch the Step Sequencer again. Only problem is, now I'm going to want a real midi drum set like you have instead of using this toy.

I'm using the Rock Band 2 drums for PS3. They run off of USB. I have both wireless and one with a cable but both will work. They actually recommend the wireless ones, but I'm using the hard wired version.

You'll need 2 drivers ...

RB2MIDI and LoopBE1 ... both are free and work with Xbox and PS3 drums.

  You will not see your drum kit as a MIDI device. You will only see your MIDI interface as a device. So, if you need drivers, it will be for your MIDI interface. You might have better luck if you create a drum map as previously suggested. You should see "New Drum Map" in the MIDI output of your (SD3) MIDI track. From the list of drum machines, pick Session Drummer 2. (It's a long list without any search function, listening Bakers?) Now go back to your MIDI track output and click on "Drum Map Manager." You will then see a window with a table (with note name in the first column to the left).. In the OutPort column, choose Session Drummer from the drop down (if it is not already populated). You would be better off if you highlight all output fields in that column (via CTRL+Shift left mouse click on each field). Then it's just a matter of figuring out what note each drum pads sends. You can do this quite easily by opening the Piano Roll for your SD3 MIDI track and hitting each pad to see what note number is being sent. Now you can happily create your custom drum map. One last thing about the velocity or loudness of your drum pads. You might have to change the velocity sensitivity in your drum machine/head, this is of course, your borrowed drum kit has velocity sensitive pads. Perhaps that is the problem. Nonetheless, it is not unusual that the SD3 kit is louder when clicked than your physical kit. Perhaps because a mouse click is at full velocity since the SD3 kit is not velocity sensitive...or is that the mouse is not velocity sensitive? Hope this helps and good luck. Kind regards, Living Room Rocker PS I think it would be more helpful and respectful to everyone if you posters would stay on topic (of the OP). PSS. Dran FF won't leave line breaks (returns) in the text. Sorry for the running paragraph.

hey cian i went through a learning curve a while back when i bought my yamaha DTXPLORER kit. here's a thread that you may find useful. http://forum.cakewalk.com...2146529&high=dtxplorer