g.andreas
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usb connections with v-700
trying to run a usb 2.0 connection into my pc for a guitar. Cannot get sonar to find the correct input. Is there a certain configuration i need to set up? Seems as tho sonar does not recognize anything outside of the v-700. I am trying to use a Peavy Vyper via USB. Any suggestions?
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/14 20:47:16
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Hi again  ... SONAR and the VS-700 defaults to using ASIO driver mode. ASIO cannot utilize more than one device at a time. So, to use multiple devices change SONAR to use the VS in WDM mode. Go to Options, Audio, Driver Type, switch to WDM/KS, then hit Apply. Now SONAR should be able to access multiple devices. If you are on Vista you can also try using the WASAPI driver mode to do this.
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Zo
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/14 21:08:07
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is it possible to use the vstudio without using the vs IO interface drivers in sonar for example (but interface plugged) ?
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/14 21:48:24
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Zo,
Yes it is. The control surface has its own USB output and a different, stand-alone driver if you only want to use the surface.
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Zo
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/14 22:32:04
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so i don't have to use the interface ?(saying dat for on the road mixing : setup : laptop , deunde and fireface)
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/14 22:50:20
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That is correct, Zo. If you want to use your FireFace with the VS700C you can.
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g.andreas
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/14 22:56:56
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hmmm... well the wdm drivers were appareantly not compatible the mme 32 bit drivers worked but the delay was about 1/2 a second and not very condusive to the session drums. Thanks for the info tho, i did learn something valuable.
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/14 23:01:25
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So, if you want to use the VS-700 with say a Line 6 USB device... you have to use WDM drivers?
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/15 00:41:55
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That's ANY ASIO device. It is not a limitation of the VS-700 but a limitation of ASIO. ASIO drivers cannot share devices. Simple as that.
However, WDM drivers can utilize multiple devices. In Vista WDM has been replaced with WASAPI, so try that. In XP just use WDM.
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/15 01:03:43
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Thanks for the heads-up, Seth... good to know.
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/15 05:18:03
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That is good to know. I can use my Guitar rig controller now in WDM mode. Although Latency is not as good.
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/15 06:04:16
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ORIGINAL: Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
Zo,
Yes it is. The control surface has its own USB output and a different, stand-alone driver if you only want to use the surface.
That's good news !! That should bring us a controlsurface-only version soon. 
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Crg
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/15 08:52:34
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I'm particularly interested in this USB-ASIO-one device only situation. Especially with the Line 6-Pod. I don't know why you couldn't use the USB on the Pod to access the software end of the Pod and use the audio outs on the Pod into the V700 I/O to stream ASIO into your tracks. Did I miss something? ORIGINAL: PC1211
So, if you want to use the VS-700 with say a Line 6 USB device... you have to use WDM drivers?
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Zo
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/15 09:06:29
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I will defenitly have two set up one for the mix and onefor recordings ...
The problem in my case 'and all rme users) is that wdm perfermonce are not good in those cards , so switching in wdm mode is tha equivalent of switching to the vs audio card !
So i suppose that if we only use the control surface , no more monitors controls ?!
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/15 18:57:37
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ORIGINAL: Crg
I'm particularly interested in this USB-ASIO-one device only situation. Especially with the Line 6-Pod. I don't know why you couldn't use the USB on the Pod to access the software end of the Pod and use the audio outs on the Pod into the V700 I/O to stream ASIO into your tracks. Did I miss something?
ORIGINAL: PC1211
So, if you want to use the VS-700 with say a Line 6 USB device... you have to use WDM drivers?
Sorry if I started any confusion, guys. To clarify ... ASIO only allows one device to be used at a time as a soundcard/ interface within a host application. In other words, you cannot use multiple sound cards/ interfaces simultaneously inside of a DAW while using ASIO. This is not dependent upon the interfaces connection type (USB, FW, PIC, etc.) or with what DAW it is being used. However, and this is a big however, ASIO does not prevent you from using other devices connected to your computer. For example ... if you are using the VS-700 as your interface with SONAR then you certainly can have your POD or any other device hooked up via USB (or any other connection type), then use the hardware outputs of the POD and go into the VS700. What you cannot do is this ... use the VS700 as the sound card/ interface in SONAR and also use the POD as a soundcard/ interface at the same time. With WDM/ WASAPI this could be done. Does that make sense?
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Zo
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/16 00:00:22
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yep ! but let's say i want to benefit durin the production process of my fireface low latency drivers : is possible to use my fireface in sonar , go out spdif in the vstidio interface and use this one as a monitor section and am i able to use the synth ?
post edited by Zo - 2009/02/16 00:10:03
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/16 06:51:33
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ZO
You can still use the control surface plus the Fireface while in Asio mode. The control surface has no audio drivers. (you could also use the Duende simultaneously at this point as well. This would be my preferred option. Personally if I wanted extra input I would use something like an Octepre into the fireface by preference to the I/O unit of the V700.
What you could not do is use the Fireface and the V700 I/O unit together unless you were using WDM or WASAPI
What I really want to know is when you use the control interface on its own, do you still have to have the I/O unit as a kind of super large dongle.
Personally I love the look of the control surface, and as soon as its available seperately I am buying, I just don't want to give up my own I/O solution (Motu 828 mkII plus Octepre) as its rock solid and I know it back to front.
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/16 17:23:04
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Gordon,
When using the control surface by itself you do not need to have the I/O attached.
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Zo
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/16 18:12:08
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Seth , any date for the control surface alone ?
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RE: usb connections with v-700
2009/02/19 08:50:54
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Seth that perfect, thanks for responding.
So the next logical question is when is the control surface going to ship on its own?
Seems to me you guys are missing out on a awful lot of business by not releasing it seperately.
Many people will have already invested in good quality i/o gear, and will not want to part with it untill its ready to be upgraded.
I own an MCU though and would ditch it tomorrow if I could get my hands on a V700 Control Surface on its own. Who knows if I am impressed by that, then when I do come to upgrade the Motu 828 I may come back to you for the audio interface.
I am currenly waiting on audio Interface upgrade to see what happens with USB3, and what improvements this will bring to the audio specific table.
I am also interested to see what Window 7 will have instore for Music Producers, in this climate, things that I am not considering upgrading yet, are OS/Audio Interface and software. This leaves control surface which do to its compatability mainly being goverend by MIDI protocol and a .dll file I feel tend to be more future proof.
I am sure a lot of other people are in teh same boat. Release the Control Surface seperately guys.
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