user accounts on another partition, sonar won't run

I have my OS and all the program files (including SONAR 7) on one partition. My user account folders (administrator accounts as well as standard accounts) are on another partition (used some little program to do this trick). Now SONAR does run using my admin accounts, but SONAR does NOT run using my standard accounts. How to fix this annoying issue? I am using Windows Vista.

I wouldn't personally move windows account/profile stuff from the system partion because of permission issues. You can just change the default lcoation of My Documents or default directories instead. For instance my windows profile is in it's default location on C:\ but all my directories for files are on a my external USB drive at K:\.

C:\ = Windows and Programs
D:\ DVD drive
E:\Sample Libries and Content (internal)
F:\ Audio (Internal)
K:\ Pics, music, office docs, vids, software install, etc etc (external USB 3)

It sounds like you now need to give your normal account higer level permission or admin rights to the root folder and all child objects on the partition with OS and programs .
 
You may get away with just appying this to the C:\Cakewalk folder and all it's child obects but you then still may run into issue with vst's and other programs.

Hope that helps in some way

Dean

Well, I use Vista and looked at the steps from this log to do the trick: http://tnt-tech.blogspot....older-for-windows.html

I suppose everyone has different experiences, but I shudder when I read about some of the hacktacular setups people try to run on here. Most stable system, for me, is standard Windows 7, no tweaks, regular windows update, regular virus scan.

Partitions are definetly NOT the way to go...multiple hard drives are the way!

@ John T

LOL, yeah I see what you mean, however this one was a good hack. Definitely a good thing to have the account folder on another place than the OS and program folder. When you do a reinstall of the OS or install another OS you are sure you keep your data.

@ Frosty

Good one but I do not have the money at the moment. Will think about it for the future.

robert_e_bone

deanx


I wouldn't personally move windows account/profile stuff from the system partion because of permission issues. You can just change the default lcoation of My Documents or default directories instead. For instance my windows profile is in it's default location on C:\ but all my directories for files are on a my external USB drive at K:\.

C:\ = Windows and Programs
D:\ DVD drive
E:\Sample Libries and Content (internal)
F:\ Audio (Internal)
K:\ Pics, music, office docs, vids, software install, etc etc (external USB 3)

It sounds like you now need to give your normal account higer level permission or admin rights to the root folder and all child objects on the partition with OS and programs .

You may get away with just appying this to the C:\Cakewalk folder and all it's child obects but you then still may run into issue with vst's and other programs.

Hope that helps in some way

Dean

I only meant that I moved the library folders (Downloads, My Documents, My Pictures, etc.) - I did nothing with any other user information.  Moving those folders was done by opening a Windows Explorer window, then right-clicking on each of the folders for my user, in the right pane of the Windows Explorer, then clicking on Properties, then clicking on Location and pointing each folder to my other disk drive.


Sorry if any earlier post confused anyone.


Bob Bone

Sorry Bob, I was replying directly to OP and not your post. What you suggest sounds excactly like what I was trying to get across, just in another way.
 
Thanks
Dean

A word of caution about junctions : I'd stay away from them if you're using a non-english version of Windows. Windows does it's language thing through junctions and my french version has hundreds of junctions all over the place. I found that out when I tried myself to move things around without windows knowing about it.

As for partitions, I love 'em. I actually ran out of drive letters yesterday when I temporarily added an external drive that itself had a bunch of partitions. Found out that if a drive/partition doesn't have a letter, it doesn't show up...

You forget there is only one registry. You can create as many user accounts as you wish but programs like Sonar rely on the registry to run. Moving an account to another partition is going to cause problems with registry entries. 

Will try a re-install today, doubt it will work, un-installing will never remove certain registry settings

@Bristol_Jonesey - you are freaking me out, man! :)

I JUST 2 minutes ago pasted those very same instructions into someone else's thread (with a shout to you for creating them), and I was going to do the same thing again here.

Nicely done - those are pretty well written.

NOW, on to other pieces of this situation:

I ran an experiment where I changed the Location information for a brand new standard user account that I set up, then started Sonar under that user.  Sonar runs just FINE in that manner.

That leads me to believe that whatever 'little program' you ran to accomplish this has messed things up.

At this point, is Sonar running properly under the admin user?  If not, then I think Windows is likely messed up in some fashion, although it could be Sonar, I suppose (but not likely).  

For an experiment, please set up a new standard user, and then while logged on as that user, see if Sonar will run.  If it does, that's a good sign - it means you have a functioning Sonar, and that Windows is happy with the new user's internal structure and such.  

So, if the above worked, THIS time, do NOT use that little program you used, but instead use what is already built into Windows to allow you to relocate user folders.  

To move user folders:

1.  Start Windows Explorer
2.  Do these steps for all of your user folders (Downloads, Desktop, My Documents, etc.) for the account you want to do this for.
3.  Right-click on one of the folders (in the right pane of Windows Explorer), and then click on Properties, then on Location.
4.  Change the location to wherever you want the folder moved to.
5.  Do this for all user folders for this account, or whichever of the folders you want to move.

There is no special program needed for any of this.  I am wondering why you want to relocate everything - this is a new user account you indicated that you had set up - since there would not be any giant bunch of user data for this new user, why do you feel you need to move its unused folders to another location on your computer?

You could just make sure your samples and projects live somewhere other than with the OS.

Bob Bone

So, if the above worked, THIS time, do NOT use that little program you used, but instead use what is already built into Windows to allow you to relocate user folders.  

That is generally good advice, and is simple and the most reliable method if all you need to do is to move most of the data that Windows stupidly puts on your system drive. It is not the same as moving the user directory/accounts/folders off the system drive however. It will not allow you to move the hidden AppData folder for example, which if you are trying to avoid the OP's problem in the first place is probably a good idea.


It is possible to move the entire user folder system off the system drive, and I suspect that this may be what happened to the OP. If you moved the entire user directory to another partition and were still able to start Sonar, then it may be that the OP has an additional problem. In that case it is possible that some Sonar dependencies (plugins?) unique to his installation but necessary to start Sonar have not been updated to connect to their respective applications.


http://www.windows7hacker.com/index.php/2009/05/how-to-change-user-profile-default-location-in-windows-7/

1. did a reinstall
2. moved the user folders as described in this topic
3. installed sonar 7

everything works fine right now

Edited - sorry, never mind.

Bob Bone