vista64 & xp32 dual boot

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2009/04/27 09:05:47 (permalink)

vista64 & xp32 dual boot

Getting ready to setup vista64 on my system (separate drive). Currently I use xp32. I have always had my audio/projects on a separate audio drive. So, I'm wondering, with dual boot system (vista64 and xp32) will projects be accessable from both versions of Sonar?
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    jcschild
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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/27 09:25:53 (permalink)
    just do vista 64 and install Sonar in 32 bit mode
    save yourself the headaches


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    DavidB
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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/27 09:31:19 (permalink)
    The headaches are the plugin issues? or is there others? I'm sure I'll install the 64 bit version just to try it, but probably best to also put the 32 bit version on there as well
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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/27 14:56:01 (permalink)
    Hi

    Can I ask you guys two potentially 'done to death question' seeing as this thread is active?


    1. If I were to have Vista 64 installed using Sonar PE in 32 bit mode, will all the curent 32 bit plugins work okay?

    2. In the same setup as above, would Sonar in 32 bit mode be able to use more than the 4GB RAM usually restricted to with a 32 bit OS, therefore, effectively using >4GB with samples?


    Cheers

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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/28 02:26:28 (permalink)
    Scott's point is that (at this point) 32Bit apps/plugins run well under Vista x64.
    So... you could install both the 32Bit and 64Bit version of Sonar... and accomplish the same end result without the dual-boot.

    You'll need solid 64Bit drivers for your audio/MIDI interfaces.

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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/28 02:30:52 (permalink)
    Hi Zipps,


    1. Yes
    2. Sonar itself would be limited to 4GB... but the system could address more. ie: Running Kontakt standalone along side Sonar, each app could use 4GB of RAM

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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/28 06:32:13 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Jim Roseberry

    Hi Zipps,


    1. Yes
    2. Sonar itself would be limited to 4GB... but the system could address more. ie: Running Kontakt standalone along side Sonar, each app could use 4GB of RAM



    Ahh......Thanks for that Jim. Much appreciated.
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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/28 07:44:52 (permalink)
    DavidB,

    I have a dual-boot of XP32 and Vista 64-bit and can access projects in both version of Sonar. The thing you would need to keep in mind is that a 64-bit plug-in will not be available in your 32-bit OS. I agree with Scott and Jim though. I did the dual-boot way back when Vista first came out. That way I could see if I could migrate to Vista, but ran into issues with plug-ins that weren't ready for 64-bit (and the initial bad implementation of Vista that caused many of us headaches). You should be able to get away with Vista 64-bit and installing both the 32-bit and 64-bit of Sonar on that and running smoothly as long as you have good audio drivers for your audio interface.

    What is your audio interface?

    Hope this helps,
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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/28 08:01:58 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info! I'll have to keep xp32 for a while longer, since it has some (real job) apps that I can't run on Vista. But, at least now I can migrate my DAW stuff from the xp drive and keep it separate. I'm disappointed though to find out how limited Sonar 64 is (sounds like lots of folks are). I guess it's more to do with other venders / plugins though. I guess I'll just run the 32 bit version for now and go into the 'wait and see' mode for the 64 bit version. My audio interface is presonus which has drivers for 64 bit.
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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/28 09:57:13 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info! I'll have to keep xp32 for a while longer, since it has some (real job) apps that I can't run on Vista.


    i have programs that are very old (98) that are running fine on my office computer in 64 bit.
    since you have to install vista first anyway for a dual boot i would try it first.
    most of my programs i didnt even have to click on compatibility mode.

    i found only 1 program that has not worked correctly efax viewer. whats odd is i was able to install it then it started giving errors so i uninstalled then tried to reinstall and no go...
    splain that one.


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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/28 10:22:03 (permalink)
    Hopefully not beating the poor deceased equine...

    Today I run Sonar on WinXP Pro with the 3G switch to use as much of the 4GB of RAM that is installed. Life is good, the only thing I'd like is access to more memory without losing access to all my plug-ins... something new and different.

    I've held off of playing around with any 64 bit OS after my initial adventures with XP64 when it was available. Recently I tried the beta of Windows 7, and it seems pretty promising. My plan was to just wait until Win 7 was available and then start messing things up, but so many people are reporting pretty good experiences with Vista64 that I figured I'd ask:

    My hardware includes a Frontier Dakota/Montana combo, a UAD-1 from the Mackie era, and a UAD-2/Solo, all have 64 bit drivers and the few reports I have found indicate that the 64 bit drivers are causing no harm. Does anyone here have any info that might contradict my findings?

    My plug-ins include a couple of K2 player based plug-ins that I expect to have problems with, and a bunch of other stuff that does not get a lot of press.

    My instincts are to continue waiting until the 64 bit spaghetti gets straightened out, but I'm wavering<G>... any and all advice welcomed!

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    RE: vista64 & xp32 dual boot 2009/04/28 10:49:46 (permalink)
    My plug-ins include a couple of K2 player based plug-ins that I expect to have problems with, and a bunch of other stuff that does not get a lot of press.

    My instincts are to continue waiting until the 64 bit spaghetti gets straightened out...


    To be honest with you Bill, I think you will still have issues no matter if you wait for Windows 7 or not. Until you try your projects and plug-ins in 64-bit (Vista or not), you won't really know if it will work. If it doesn't you then have to decide if it is a must have plug and ask the vendor when they will be releasing a 64-bit plug or if they can provide a work-around to getting it to work.

    As was stated earlier, installing 32-bit Sonar onto Vista 64-bit helps quite a bit with these "other stuff" plugs if they install correctly (and you don't have BitBridge to deal with).

    So to make a long story short, you might as well "bite the bullet" sooner rather than later. That's my 2 cents...

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