vst instrument plays once, then no output

This is weird. With two instruments only, if i record, the instrument sounds, but on playback, no sound. If I re-install it, it plays during playback....once. On rewind, silence. It's as though the first pass then mutes the instrument or removes it.  Any ideas?

Doesn't happen to me, but it could be that you are missing some controller data in your midi track(s). Try moving the mod wheel up during playback. If that doesn't work, try adding an automation lane for CC11.
 
Regards,
Dan

herbroselle
thanks for the comebacks. I tried both ideas with no luck. There's another anomaly. Once i record that track, I cannot clone it. The MIDI data is there, shows up in PRV and staff view. Just doesn't play unless I reload the instrument. 
 
I can get around it by recording, then when i'm ready to export, reload it again, but......
 
EastWest reports no problems of similar nature, and all the other EW instrument are functioning normally. 

I have run into this with a viola patch in EastWest's Hollywood Strings. I managed to resolve it by copying the midi note data to a new track and rerouting the synth, then deleting the original track. I then re-recorded the CC data. There was something captured in the original CC data that appeared to break the patch. I've never run into this with any other patch in the library nor any other EW library that I use.
 
Regards,
Dan

herbroselle
fixed!! Disabled "zero midi controller" under "project/midi

That's not a fix. Now mod and pitch wheel changes won't be reset when you stop playback. So, you are missing cc data in your tracks. That's the real fix.
 
Regards,
Dan

CC data is assignable midi continuous controller data. To take an example, in EastWest Hollywood Strings, some patches switch articulations using mod wheel data. The articulations crossfade as you move the wheel up or down. Others require adding midi CC11 data to automate expression. Some use both. There are a lot of CC types available, but the most commonly used are:
 

• 1 - Mod Wheel
• 2 - Breath Controller (no, you don't actually have to have one)
• 5 - Portamento Time
• 7 - Volume
• 10 - Pan
• 11 - Expression
• 64 - Sustain Pedal
• 65 - Portamento On/Off

 
There are many, many others, but the VST must be programmed to recognize and respond to them. Read the manual for the VST you are using.
 
Regards,
Dan
 

dcumpian

herbroselle
fixed!! Disabled "zero midi controller" under "project/midi

That's not a fix. Now mod and pitch wheel changes won't be reset when you stop playback. So, you are missing cc data in your tracks. That's the real fix.
 
Regards,
Dan
 

 
 
Actually I think herbroselle has the right fix.
 
Mising CC data in this case isn't really the issue. This happens with some vsti's (especially certain kontakt libraries) that use non standard control changes to adjust levels, even with no data in the midi track. The first time you press stop after loading the instrument it will no longer sound. It is entirely due to the zero midi controler setting, and disabling it in this instance is the only fix. I have had it disabled for years, I program entirely in midi and have had no issues at all. It would only be an issue if you stopped in the middle of pitch bend data, and even then I imagine simply pushing the midi reset button would restore order. 

herbroselle
thanks for that info as well. Right now, I'm going to Home Depot for some spackling to repair the wall from banging my head against it. 
 
Sincerely, I do appreciate the time taken to help me with this problem. It WILL be solved. 

If you have disabled the 'zero midi controller' on stop setting you have already solved it herbroselle :)

Bristol_Jonesey

tenfoot

herbroselle
thanks for that info as well. Right now, I'm going to Home Depot for some spackling to repair the wall from banging my head against it. 
 
Sincerely, I do appreciate the time taken to help me with this problem. It WILL be solved. 

If you have disabled the 'zero midi controller' on stop setting you have already solved it herbroselle :)

Not necessarily.
 
If you have articulation changes baked into the Midi track, the next time playback starts will trigger the last artic(s) loaded, which might be the one(s) you want, but I'm never that lucky 

True Jonesey, but disabling the zero controller function is still the only solution I have found to this problem.  It's pretty hard to work with a synth that won't make any sound! I searched every config file to try and find a paramater that would set which controllers were zeroed in order to isoate the problem cc (it is mod in the case of my problematic kontakt libraries) to no avail. I really haven't found disabling it to be a big deal.