vst's lagg after recording 3 tracks getting chopping echo???

Steev
Unfortunately the Pyle is an audio sound mixer and won't be of any use for solving your latency problems. It will only interface with your existing sound module thru USB.

Steev
Very good article on choosing audio interfaces. I strongly advise reading the whole thing, but point #9 seems to be specifically pertinent to this tread.

Steev
Geese Glen, I’m thinking I haven’t come across such an assumptive and opinionated troll like you in quite some time? Are you practicing to become a night club comedian or something? Because you are just coming off as being rude, nasty, and bitter about something. Is it because I contradicted you? Sorry dude, but I believe that YOU ARE WRONG, and pitching a hissy fit and pointing a finger at me with assumptive and opinionated troll like accusations is not going to solve anyone's problems, but only going to make things worse.

Steev
You need to at least come up with some proof that I’m wrong. Let us all know how you conclude WDM/KS drivers are superior to ASIO. I would surely like to know, and I’ll bet so would the design engineers at Focusrite would as well.

Steev
Or how about something simple like what type of drivers does the Pyle mixer support, what’s it’s lowest latency setting, or what sample rates does it record at? Did YOU ever use one of the Pyle mixers as an audio interface?

Steev
Or are you just blowing smoke up our arses here thinking it’s my turn to be your whipping post? HEE, HEE, HEE.. I doubt that's gonna work out very well for you or anyone else here, buddy..

gcolbert

jbl420
Which is also what I was trying to figure out what driver mode is best is asio the best for most devices including my onboard sound card???.

Jay - Drivers are programs that are (generally) written by the device manufacturer to interface their hardware to an operating system.
Or more accurately drivers are small pieces of software written to establish "COMMUNICATION" between hardware devices and software. Without these drivers your OS "might" recognize that something is connected to your computer, but it won't be able to tell the difference if it's a "digital audio interface" or a jar of mayonnaise, and simply ignore it.
 The same goes for "analog audio interfaces", they may as well be a jar of mayo as far as your computer is concerned because they are just as ignored. That means you can turn their dials and move their faders until you are blue in the face, but you will still, and MOST DEFINETLY have latency problems until you get a decent soundcard/interface to select the proper drivers.
 Now there is a chance of course that I could be wrong, but my money says they WILL be ASIO!
 
 
  The driver that your on-board sound card uses was most likely written by a subsidiary of the chip manufacturer (AMD) who provided the chip set (VIA audio) for your computer's mother board.
Doubtful, given you have already stated that you have a basic sound "chip", as opposed to "Card", and a computer resent enough to have a quad core and SATA 2, you "mostly likely" are using "RealTec" audio drivers.
 
These tend to be written to the minimum specifications to allow the sound chip to work with the OS (e.g., Windows 8).  They tend to be very general purpose and generic.
True, as these tiny little sound chips can only perform very general and generic tasks, it makes no sense to write code for tasks they can't even do .
 
So while it is quite possible that your on-board sound card may use the exact same audio chips that the M-Audio external audio interface uses, the driver may not have been written well enough to provide good results.
""!!! ABSOLUTELY FALSE !!!"" NOBODY is going to give you pro grade components for free as add ons. Those tiny little sound chips can ONLY PERFORM very general and generic tasks like listening to music though a generic media player and watching movies on YOUtube or Net Flix.  As nice as they can sound, they are completely ill suited to run even the skinniest, lamest DAW. Running SONAR thru a sound chip is like trying to run a high performance race car with a lawn mower engine
 These built in chips are too small and week to run high speed ASIO drivers.  M-Audio's "M-POWER" ASIO v2 drivers are SPACIFICALLY written in great detail to maximize communications between their own specific product designs and any and all DAW's. Even freak'in PRO TOOLS for God's sake, do you know what THAT means?
While M-Audio sound card interfaces are fully capable of automatically switching between driver modes for propriety application specific purposes, they are definitely NOT SUITABLE for either VIA or RealTec chips . 
The driver mode options are a part of this manufacturer provided driver.  I'm willing to bet that AMD or Intel did not take the time to write ASIO mode drivers for your hardware.  Even if you found an ASIO driver, it would not have been written for your sound card (ASIO4ALL is a confusing aspect to this reality). 
 
The Pyle mixer, and a significant number of other low-cost interfaces use the standard windows driver for audio devices.  Because they use the generic Windows driver, the manufacturer avoids the cost and support issues of having to write and distribute drivers for their hardware.
FALSE! The Pyle mixer is NOT a digital interface so there was no need for the manufacturer to write drivers for it.
  You could possibly use the Pyle with ASIO4ALL (this is not a recommendation) to make sonar think that you were using ASIO drivers and it may perform better, but this is really just using the WDM/KS driver with a wrapper that provides better buffering than the generic audio driver. 
That will only have effect on your existing sound chip.
 
A good audio interface will have a driver provided by the device manufacturer that is specific to their hardware and the particular operating system that you are using.  If you go to a manufacturer's web site and they don't have a driver download for the device (or only offer an ASIO4ALL download) you are looking at then you should not expect top-notch results for the device.  Bristol_jonsey's post made some solid suggestions that I think you would benefit from looking into. 
Babble, babble, babble.
 
So it really is not just switching driver mode, but choosing the correct driver for the device you are using.
Equally important to use the "Correct DEVICE" to more efficiently perform the right job properly, I would think.
 
I started this hobby using an Alesis mixer that is not too different from the Pyle you posted on. I still have it and often use it as a sub-mixer on projects.  My opinion is that the Pyle would work great if you were doing simple voice-overs or simple singer/songwriter projects but that does not seem to be the direction you are headed.  It may help you in the short term, but I think you will be wanting something better not too far down the road.
Hmm, I wonder who said that before in the thread?
 
And as to your VST lag issue - this may not even be your sound card (even though I think you need a better interface).  Check out my recommendations in post #5 above.  This problem may just be the result of the VST/patches or FX that you have chosen for the project.  Check your settings before buying new gear and you will find that you can afford much better gear.
YES! DEFINETLY CHECK OUT MY RECOMMENDATIONS IN POST #5! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA!
 
Have you tried freezing any of your tracks?
Glen dear boyo, Have you ever tried freezing your brains instead of frying them all the time?
 
Glen