John6528
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weird wd-40 question
My cpu overheated so I blast the dust off the cpu fan and case fan with a can of blaster. except it was wd-40. Now puter runs fine but smells terrible. Will that hurt it? Any way to clean up the mess? Guess I will have to take the cpu and fan off and clean it with something. John
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/02 19:29:02
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Maybe you could clean it off with duct tape...??? I'd suggest that if it ain't broke, dont fix it. Julien
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/02 20:30:50
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WD-40 needs to be banned Be careful to make sure there is no WD-40 loose (drips) that will fall onto your M/B. As long as it doesn't reach anything it can short, you should be OK (it is a very good conductor). Aside from that, you now have another problem. The heatsink and fan is still going to attract dust - and it is now going to stick to the WD-40 and probably create more of a blanket which isn't good for any cooling system. I would take the heatsink and fan out and try to clean it as best as possible to get all the WD-40 off. Just my 2 cents!
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/02 20:51:56
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Oh man! Yeah, I second that. Get it off. Don't feel bad though. I replaced a passive heatsink one time on an old Asus Black Pearl 533 board. I looked in the woman's medicine cabinet and grabbed a bottle of finger nail polish remover to clean off the chip. After I'd finished and was putting her nail polish remover back I happened to notice on the label it contained aloe vera for softening. I now use dedicated remover/cleaner for surgery.
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/02 21:50:46
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WD-40..... is called that because the WD stands for WATER DISPLACEMENT formula #40... A short story.... I am in the security business. Here in NC we had massive floods after hurricane Floyd came through and dumped 15" of rain. One of my customers panels was under 6 feet of water for several days. I was called in to replace it as soon as the water resided. I carried it to my shop. It was badly corroded. All the IC chips had that chalky white power around the terminals, as it was powered by battery when it was flooded, effectively shorting it out all across the circuit board. A few weeks later, when I had the time, I sprayed that board front and back with WD-40 soaking it. I used a paintbrush to work the WD-40 into all the crooks and crannies and then used a towel to blot the board removing the excess. I connected a new keypad and powered it up. The panel worked, and even displayed the customer's name on the keypad. A test of the zones showed they still worked. Basically the WD brought it back to life because I connected the keypad and power to the board before I cleaned it with the WD-40. SO.... you didn't screw up too bad. I would get some of the contact cleaner in a spray can and spray it on the board where the WD-40 was sprayed. That should clean off the WD-40 residue which will tend to collect dust which you don't want. A circuit board should be dry and have nothing on it to hold dust. It would be best to hold the board at an angle that allows the cleaner to drain off. It will remove the residue and evaporate leaving the board in good condition.
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/02 22:26:56
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Works as starting fluid too if you don't have any on hand. Always carried a can when I was out snowmobiling. Handy stuff indeed.
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John6528
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/02 23:56:44
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Guitarhacker SO.... you didn't screw up too bad. I would get some of the contact cleaner in a spray can and spray it on the board where the WD-40 was sprayed. That should clean off the WD-40 residue which will tend to collect dust which you don't want. A circuit board should be dry and have nothing on it to hold dust. It would be best to hold the board at an angle that allows the cleaner to drain off. It will remove the residue and evaporate leaving the board in good condition. Glad to hear it's not too bad. Showing my ignorance... what is contact cleaner? Seems to be running ok but the smell is pretty sickening. Going to get a new cpu fan anyway. The one that came with it doesn't do the job if I overclock even a little bit or the fan gets just a little dusty. John
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/02 23:58:21
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Zuma Works as starting fluid too if you don't have any on hand. Always carried a can when I was out snowmobiling. Handy stuff indeed. Got to keep the cans separate. I identified it by the red tube sticking out and didn't think to look at the can. I was in a hurry of course. JOhn
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/03 06:54:20
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I would just keep track of it and if you start having heat problems best thing is to replace the heatsink/fan assembly.
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/03 08:15:29
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Contact cleaner is a fluid that evaporates quickly and removes dust and corrosion from contacts. I have some in a spray can which I spray into the pots on my guitars and amps. It gets rid of the "scratchy" static sound caused by dust and corrosion. It also makes them turn smoothly as a nice side bonus. They used to sell it at radio shack, still might. If not, you can easily get it from some of the electronic supply stores or online. BTW: Seriously, how long does it take to actually LOOK at the can? I always look at the can and especially the nozzle to see what I'm spraying and in what direction. Some of that stuff really stings if it gets in the eyes. AND.......WD-40 is in a bright yellow and blue can.... pretty distinctive. My canned air looks nothing like the WD can.
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/03 10:15:48
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I would say your main concern with the WD-40, John, is not conductivity but interference with heat transfer... and I'm not talking just about dust getting stuck to your fan. Any surrounding chips that aren't covered with a heatsink can possibly suffer over heating. It is a lubricant as well as a water dispersant, and the oils could possibly interfere with cooling. That was my concern when I inadvertently used nail poilsh remover w/aloe vera to dissolve the thermal compound. Not saying this will definitely happen to you but maybe a careful inspection of all exposed chips in the area you sprayed and a quick alcohol wipe just to be safe.
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/03 13:48:17
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Alcohol is a good solution to use to remove gunk from other causes, because it evaporates quickly and completely. Contact cleaner is very similar but I suspect it has a few other toxic chems in it to clean the contacts and such....
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/03 14:04:26
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Being a former amp tech, "contact cleaner" is not the best thing for controls such as volume controls. They sell separate cleaner that is designed for controls. I have some Deoxit Contact Cleaner, obviously for switches, jacks, etc and also some Deoxit Fader lube that I use on pots.
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/03 15:43:34
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alcohol is what they would use at the factory to clean the boards after wave soldering them (sort of). cleaning parts that were infested with WD-40 with alcohol will be a good start. changing out the heatsink and fan certainly would not hurt.
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/04 04:20:15
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Your main problem with WD-40 is the effect it will have on the plastic-especially the plastic parts of the cooling fan. The MB plastic itself is likely to be more resistant to petroleum based solvents than the fan blade material. It is unlikely that enough will get into the heat transfer compound between the cooler and the CPU to degrade that heat transfer. There is nothing in the WD-40 that will conduct electricity or cause a short. If you decide to use a solvent to clean the stuff off, consider the effect that solvent may have. Alcohol, unless you can get an absolute (water free) compound may cause shorting unless it is fully evaporated prior to power-on. Water and detergent may in fact be safer than other solvents, but thorough drying is imperative.
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John6528
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/04 15:31:16
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Almost got a new fan/heatsink on Newegg then thought I would ask here for advice. What's a quiet one? Also might get a new board with USB 3 and the new fast SATA. But someone in some store or other told me that they don't even make drives that use all of the old sata yet. I don't use usb much... just thumb drives every so often. Also getting a new case fan cause I sprayed that too and mine is kind of cheap plastic. JOhn
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/05 21:18:17
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The Noctua's and Zalman's are what most people go with. Your CPU was covered though so there's no way you got any WD-40 it. Just take the fan off and maybe check the exposed chips that were in the area you sprayed. You'll be hard pressed to find isopropyl aclohol any stronger than 70%, but just dab it on a lint free cloth or tissue to do your cleaning and you won't have any problem. It'll be well evaporated, water and all, by the time you get everything back together again. They make a cleaner and compound remover specifically for chips too. Look into picking up a bottle of each for future surgery. Everybody seems to be going with the Gigabyte boards now. I prefer Asus, but it's all down to personal preference. You'll hear it from both camps how the other board is sure to die on you, lol. Good luck to you old boy... and lay off the WD-40 for crying out loud! :)
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John6528
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/07 22:31:59
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The smell went away so I haven't done anything yet. Seems to be working fine. Ordering new fans tonight. John
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/09 15:13:20
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John6528 The smell went away so I haven't done anything yet. Seems to be working fine. Ordering new fans tonight. John I would just let the thing run and see if it fails. The fans will probably never suffer noticeable deterioration from a little WD-40, and if they do, they will soften and seize or break and you can replace them then. It would be a major shame to pull a pin out of the CPU trying to remove a heatsink that is working fine.
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/09 23:46:29
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slartabartfast John6528 The smell went away so I haven't done anything yet. Seems to be working fine. Ordering new fans tonight. John I would just let the thing run and see if it fails. The fans will probably never suffer noticeable deterioration from a little WD-40, and if they do, they will soften and seize or break and you can replace them then. It would be a major shame to pull a pin out of the CPU trying to remove a heatsink that is working fine. Oh God... I Have BEEN THERE! I7-950. You just have to LOOK at those things wrong and they bend. I gently picked it up by the pins by mistake and bye-bye processor. Luckily it was in warranty. They never even argued about the return. John
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/10 02:37:25
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Every time I see this thread I cringe a bit and recall dumb things I've done (like spilling a drop of paint out of a pint can onto a kitchen counter, a little too hurriedly picking up the can to wipe the drop off with a towel, and accidentally pouring some of the paint onto the kitchen floor in the process... *sigh*). It also reminds me of an old Carlin skit where he wants to know who put the Preparation H where the toothpaste normally is! Hopefully you'll get everything cleaned out and back to working.
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John6528
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Re:weird wd-40 question
2011/06/22 19:56:20
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Update: Got a new board instead of trying to clean up the old one. Taking a chance on MB ASROCK|P67 EXTREME4 (B3) P67 R. Kind of wanted to get usb 3 and sata 6 sometime anyway. Probably pick up a new cpu fan at Micro Center though the old one seems to be cranking away ok. Changing fans is not good for me. Hate touching the cpu. John
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