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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/11 11:33:29
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In the middle of a concert in Ireland, U2 stopped playing and Bono began clapping his hands, slowly, rhythmically as the crowd grows quiet... "Everytime I clap my hands, a child dies in Africa" Bono proclaims. After a brief silence, a voice from the crowd yells "Then stop fooking doing it!!!"
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/11 11:34:29
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I absolutely hate Led Zeppelin. Add another to that list............ I'm a bit older than you, but I still never understood the lore........
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
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and successful - Just watching a TV program about 20 best artist or bands of all time and U2 is among such
giants like Pink Floyd, Queen, Michael Jackson, etc etc. I mean come on, those guys from U2 barely could play
on their instruments...Granted they have few nice songs and original style (accomplished willy-nilly because of lack of instrumental skills)
but how they can be even compared to Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple....it's not same league.
No more than than trying to compare....Deep Purple? Queen? To Michael Jackson............... 
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/11 11:46:23
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craigb
In the middle of a concert in Ireland, U2 stopped playing and Bono began clapping his hands, slowly, rhythmically as the crowd grows quiet... "Everytime I clap my hands, a child dies in Africa" Bono proclaims. After a brief silence, a voice from the crowd yells "Then stop fooking doing it!!!"
I just spit coffee all over my laptop laughing at that! 
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/11 12:20:27
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I love U2. I hate their egos though. Edge is no spectacular guitarist but his style is unique and is the backbone of their sound. That Bill Bailey technical failure clip is hilarious.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/11 13:25:04
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offnote
I mean come on, those guys from U2 barely could play
on their instruments...
What does that have to do with the price of cheese? And where do you draw the line between who can and can't 'play'?
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/11 14:12:30
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I love Rush. I can appreciate Led Zeppelin. I can tolerate U2. Not every Rush song is great, but there are moments where I can't help but think "How are 3 guys doing that? That sounds amazing!" My hang-up with LZ is Jimmy Page. How can the same person sound so fantastic on his acoustic, write and play these great electric guitar riffs, and then absolutely butcher the solo? I guess I'm just jealous of U2. I hear their music - and I do like some of it - and I think, "Yeah, I can play that. I could've written that." Thank God for the Onion: http://www.theonion.com/articles/rest-of-u2-perfectly-fine-with-africans-starving,1852/
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/11 16:42:43
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I think the magic part of U2 is the live performance. I've never been a big fan of their songs, but when I put one of their concert DVDs on the player and turn the home cinema to 11 I'm mesmerized. The newest shows are a little too BIG, but still....
When U2 started to rise, there were few, if any, singers who had such cruel intensity combined with musical vibe in the voice as Bono.
And minimalism is very, very difficult. U2 has well succeeded in sticking to their basic sound. The arrangements are barren as the Irish hills.
In a way the band is a one trick pony, but all the bands that have become really big, are such IMO. Performers with variation and risk taking never fill stadions, only arenas.(OK, this is from the point of view of a scarsely inhabited country. I guess in London or LA you can fill a stadion with a " See the quills of a female hedgehog grow"-show).
And maybe there are exceptions..David Bowie...not a band...
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
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I don't like REM (and I am from Georgia) cannot stand RUSH, though I have heard a few good moments from them (when there was no singing going on), never liked much LZ except for a short flirtation with LZ II, I have no use for U2... really after I have heard something 100 times I don't want to hear it anymore. Back in the 60s I knew every word to every BEATLES song, now I could usually care less... sometimes I get the urge to hear them, they really made some incredible music... Imagine makes my skin crawl, I cannot turn the dial fast enough if it comes on. Some live albums are just horrible like LZ, The Song Remains the Same, other shows are OK (I have the box set of DVDs but I have not watched it all the way through). RUSHs first live album is the only album (cassette) I have ever returned to a store. I listened and returned it about 20 minutes later, told them it was the worst excuse for music I had ever heard, they actually took it back...
People ask me my favorite band, I usually do not have one. Sometimes Monks of Doom but I listened to them so much that if I listen now they get in my head for a week or more and I can't get it out. I HATE classic rock stations... I love new music stations like the GA State station WRAS (Album 88) every time I turn it on I hear something I've never heard, that is refreshing (to me). I like some of the shows on XM like To Petty's show and other channels that play old and obscure music... I am recording Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison off some cable channel right now while I watch the GA/Auburn football game and play on the internets.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/12 16:34:42
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craigb In the middle of a concert in Ireland, U2 stopped playing and Bono began clapping his hands, slowly, rhythmically as the crowd grows quiet... "Everytime I clap my hands, a child dies in Africa" Bono proclaims. After a brief silence, a voice from the crowd yells "Then stop fooking doing it!!!"
I just spit coffee all over my laptop laughing at that! +100, that is funny. Stuff like that is why I would never go to see someone like Mellencamp. The last thing I want to hear when I have paid money to be entertained and maybe get away from it all for a bit is some idiotic political ranting... I would probably get kicked out of the show, or beaten senseless.. (that wouldn't take much, laff). Bono, Mellencamp, and others like that could hand out fliers or something. Maybe I would take it home and read it instead of getting pi55ed off and then tuning them out. Stop clapping then ... now that is funny, not pootically correct at all but most really funny stuff is totally insensitive. That reminds me of the late great Brother Dave Gardner's line, "when a man falls down, KICK HIM.. it may make him want to get back up!" Brother Dave Gardner "The Motorcycle Story" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1kZ7SQ2MV4&feature=related J
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/12 16:36:25
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I was very impressed with U2 at Glastonbury (saw it on the TV, I have enough mud in my life thanks), really powerful performances, great sound too. Anyone harping on about limited guitar playing is missing the point IMO - it all serves the song, and they don't sell millions of copies of those songs by accident.
As far as Rush goes, I'm a moderate fan, but I probably disgust die-hard fans, because my favourite period is around Power Windows and Hold Your Fire. 'Time Stand Still' and 'Mission' are overlooked masterpieces, and as the years go on, I find myself identifying with the lyrics more and more.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/12 16:47:23
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I can't believe the news today
Oh, I can't close my eyes
And make it go away
How long...
How long must we sing this song
How long, how long...
'cause tonight...we can be as one
Tonight...
Broken bottles under children's feet
Bodies strewn across the dead end street
But I won't heed the battle call
It puts my back up
Puts my back up against the wall
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
And the battle's just begun
There's many lost, but tell me who has won
The trench is dug within our hearts
And mothers, children, brothers, sisters
Torn apart
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
How long...
How long must we sing this song
How long, how long...
'cause tonight...we can be as one
Tonight...tonight...
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Wipe the tears from your eyes
Wipe your tears away
Oh, wipe your tears away
Oh, wipe your tears away
(Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
Oh, wipe your blood shot eyes
(Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
Sunday, Bloody Sunday (Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
Sunday, Bloody Sunday (Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
And it's true we are immune
When fact is fiction and TV reality
And today the millions cry
We eat and drink while tomorrow they die
(Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
The real battle just begun
To claim the victory Jesus won
On...
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Sunday Bloody Sunday...
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/12 16:47:55
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I like "Rush" "All the Worlds a Stage" is a definite classic live release.............. Led Zepplin..............."Song Remains the Same".. is complete torture to my senses............... 
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/12 20:59:17
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There's really no one discussed here that I don't like. Each of the bands have something special going on. It's true that Jimmy Page was not his best in a live venue. It's the creativity and ideas for composition that make me humble.
When I got the proper tuning for Rain Song (DGCGCD) it all came together and I thought that it was not that hard to replicate much of it. But then I thought "how did he get this idea and this tuning?". Humbling indeed.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/12 21:12:44
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I've seen a lot of bad Jimmy page performances... and I've seen some that are jaw dropping over the top great.
The thing is, he was usually doing the work of two guitarists and a keyboard player.
The guy just plain worked harder than just about anyone you might nominate for comparison.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/12 21:15:37
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I can't believe the news today
Oh, I can't close my eyes
And make it go away
How long...
How long must we sing this song
How long, how long...
'cause tonight...we can be as one
Tonight...
Broken bottles under children's feet
Bodies strewn across the dead end street
But I won't heed the battle call
It puts my back up
Puts my back up against the wall
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
And the battle's just begun
There's many lost, but tell me who has won
The trench is dug within our hearts
And mothers, children, brothers, sisters
Torn apart
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
How long...
How long must we sing this song
How long, how long...
'cause tonight...we can be as one
Tonight...tonight...
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Sunday, Bloody Sunday
Wipe the tears from your eyes
Wipe your tears away
Oh, wipe your tears away
Oh, wipe your tears away
(Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
Oh, wipe your blood shot eyes
(Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
Sunday, Bloody Sunday (Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
Sunday, Bloody Sunday (Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
And it's true we are immune
When fact is fiction and TV reality
And today the millions cry
We eat and drink while tomorrow they die
(Sunday, Bloody Sunday)
The real battle just begun
To claim the victory Jesus won
On...
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Sunday Bloody Sunday...
I remember hearing the odd U2 song on the radio (John Peel) when they were just starting to get a name for themselves. At the time, I saw them as the logical successors to Stiff Little Fingers (a band from Northern Ireland whose lyrics and subject matter were drawn from the ongoing troubles in Ulster). I still think some of their early stuff is wonderful, and the Live At Red Rocks video is still very powerful even today. Songs from that era are timeless to me - New Years Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday (as Mike mentions) and the truly marvellous 40 - they all still sound great. How long to sing this song? 'Bout 30 years eh Bonio 
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/12 21:27:19
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About a year before I moved to Tallahassee U2 played a small room here.
When I got here people were still talking about it. Heck some of my friends are still talking about it. Heck... I'm talking about t.
The room was a local practice spot that was shared by a few alt-punk bands. I had some good times there.
The room was heated by burning a fire in the 55 gallon drum in the middle... but that wasn't problem because the floor was dirt and the roof had plenty of leaks.
It was good practice because back then some of the clubs weren't much fancier.
The U2 guys rolled into town played some music and spent the night talking with the locals in that setting.
I don't begrudge them any of their success... those guys took their message out and shared it with the world.
I made up for that and another near miss at seeing them. I got to see them 4 times when they got big enough to play rooms with concrete floors. I guess I saw them in a grass field once too.
:-)
Good times.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/12 23:46:38
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Uh oh. He called her Julie...
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/13 00:59:13
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I saw U2 on the unforgettable fire tour and was really pulled into the music and vibe. That was the last time I could get a ticket to see them in Toronto. They sell out in minutes and the scalpers charge hundreds. They're too famous now for a man of average means to go see them. Canada is too big to go on a road trip to see a rock band.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/13 01:01:02
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57Gregy
Uh oh. He called her Julie...
I always let it slide the first time. ;)
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/13 13:06:31
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I find that many of their big fans are as much into the message as they are the music. Bono seems to have done a good job through the years of crafting this personality of spiritualism that appeals to a lot of their fans. For me I find I like a song or two an album and can't stand the rest. I buy the collections with all the big hits and enjoy those and leave the rest.
@Craigb- That's so funny I nearly fell out of my chair when I read that! But that is exactly what so many U2 fans just love.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/11/14 21:23:50
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and successful - Just watching a TV program about 20 best artist or bands of all time and U2 is among such
giants like Pink Floyd, Queen, Michael Jackson, etc etc. I mean come on, those guys from U2 barely could play
on their instruments...Granted they have few nice songs and original style (accomplished willy-nilly because of lack of instrumental skills)
but how they can be even compared to Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple....it's not same league.
Good PR and the money to use it! You'd be surprised how easy it is to burn a few dollars when you can't lose. Even Kiss had a massive PR factory!
post edited by Moshkiae - 2011/11/14 21:27:04
As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/12/14 12:09:31
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jamesg1213
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I think Henry Rollins Sums up U2 Brilliantly....something about ugly fat women and a rhythm section that is just........
I don't understand, how does that sum up U2?
Sorry,must be an Aussie thing where you try to remember another's incredibly accurate quote,but you don't remember the "exact", way it was written/said, so you just tell of the harsh/scary accurate bits,you can remember[that was such a perfect description of how badly the rhythm section suck,especially,compared to Sabbath or Zeppelin]and If the people reading IT,know of the "quoter"i.e. Henry Rollins's spoken word "gig's,where he mimcks or explains in lurid detail,why U2 are as so incredibly "overrated",or just how hilariously Awesome,Ronnie James Dio was,when he announced LOOKOUT!.........priceless.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/12/14 13:34:00
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craigb
In the middle of a concert in Ireland, U2 stopped playing and Bono began clapping his hands, slowly, rhythmically as the crowd grows quiet... "Everytime I clap my hands, a child dies in Africa" Bono proclaims. After a brief silence, a voice from the crowd yells "Then stop fooking doing it!!!"
Ok...ROFL.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/12/14 13:40:04
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craigb
In the middle of a concert in Ireland, U2 stopped playing and Bono began clapping his hands, slowly, rhythmically as the crowd grows quiet... "Everytime I clap my hands, a child dies in Africa" Bono proclaims. After a brief silence, a voice from the crowd yells "Then stop fooking doing it!!!"
Every time a bell rings, an angel gets its wings! I don't mind - I even like - U2's philanthropic bent. What I don't like is how they guilt you into it. It's your passion. Great. My passion is to give my money to charities in other ways, and I don't need Bono casting aspersions on it.
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Re:what's the deal with U2 being so appreciated?
2011/12/14 15:25:17
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I didn't mind giving to charities... until I became one too...
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