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why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
why cakewalk sonar not popular for hi end award winners of sound engineers ?
1. Advertising
2. Quality
3. Policy of company
4. More Bugs
5. Low tools
6. Just for Windows
7. Difficult
8. Cpu usage
9. Or..... what!?
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If quality is same with other popular DAWs like protools, Cubase, logic I like to stay in this DAW.
But if the main problem is quality, please describe which problem.....!?
This program is the first 64 bit engine.
This have a good tools like direct , good audio snap for quantize, more edit option, easy monitoring system, and more.....
I live with this program for 10 years and optimize my pc and optimize my hands for bugs and l have a just 5% bugs.
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Do you know any award winner sound engineers in sonar....!? Or big studio with sonar....!?
Or I might be mac and protools or Cubase or logic.....!?
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 07:12:51
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toofanstudio
Do you know any award winner sound engineers in sonar....!?
I'm an engineer ... work with Sonar ... and won an award in primary school ski racing ... Just to answer at least one of your zillion questions ;-)
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 07:31:49
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Hi, Sonar Platinum is the best pro Daw for me,but Cake have never done a right relationships with the third parts developers.
You can see,for instance,many hardware and controllers brands that advertise tested with,template of........but almost never i see Sonar....
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 08:11:29
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Sonar is awesome. Who cares about awards or what anyone else thinks about it? It's a great value given the feature set it provides, support is very good, this forum is unbelievably helpful and the look, feel and workflow suit my needs. If you agree, buy it. And if you don't, look for something that better suits your needs. :o)
Oh and congratulations on your first post. Welcome to the forum.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 08:42:31
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☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2015/04/25 10:12:58
SONAR is for people who think for themselves.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 08:46:30
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Is GodParticle back??? 
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 10:10:08
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One post, weird English = ignore.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 10:33:31
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Our last record recorded in Sonar hit the billboard top 200... I guess it's not an award though. :-/ I still have never actually met another Sonar user in person, which seems strange since there are plenty of users.
I also think I am the only musician/studio I know (in the Portland "indie" scene) that uses a PC. Everyone is on Mac. I have to always bring my Mac laptop to the studio for file transfers when working with other artists. The sessions are usually in Pro Tools, so I end up just working in Pro Tools more when collaborating/mixing/etc...
I once helped write and play on a No. 1 Billboard, platinum selling, Grammy nominated record...
It was recorded to tape. Transferred to Radar. Moved to protocols and mixed through a Neve console. I guess that's what professional is. Pro Tools, tape and a vintage console.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 10:36:07
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Does "highend engineer" mean he has long legs?
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 10:38:20
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It's Bass, not Bass. i7 2700K, 16GB DDR3, 2 SSD sample drives and OS drive, HDD SATAIII for projects, 2 24" monitors Focusrite Saffire Pro 24, Focusrite VRM Box, LAVA Lamp, SONAR Platinum 64 bit, Mackie MCU and 1 MCU XT, Akai Advance 49, Windows 10, Komplete 9 Ultimate, Cakewalk, Toontrack, IK, AAS, XLN, UVI, Air Music Tech, Waves Factory, Sample Tek and Sonivox VSTi's. Overloud, T-Racks, Audio Damage, D16, Nomad Factory, Waves Gold FX
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 10:51:07
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I don't know about awards - but it makes my studio money ultimately paying the bills+++. :-)
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 10:53:39
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I too have noticed that Sonar is not mentioned as much as it should! I had a couple pro-tool guys sitting behind me one day in the studio as I was working. They kept looking at each other like "wow" and "whoa". Pro tools was designed IMO, just to separate the big name studios from average consumers. CW was the first software I used but not the only. NOW IT IS! Like Craig said, its for us who can think for ourselves.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 11:09:40
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Its is a bummer when you're looking for other to collaborate with on projects and they are all gung ho to work with you until they find out you're using Sonar Plat.. then the RUN not walk away! Cakewalk needs good PR and send free copies of Sonar Plat with a tech/teacher to all the DAW schools in the world. Well you know! THINK BIG! :) OR put some cash into ads on YouTube of some "real" in the studio projects that are going on, maybe even live feeds stuff. OR just put set up two exact systems one with Pro tools and one with Plat. and record to both at the same time. then show it all on YouTube and have a blind sound test.. make it a big promo deal at all trade shows, YouTube and Advertise it!!!!!!!!! EDIT:
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 11:24:47
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I say "let them run!" If they don't understand that DAW's today can all work together in some way then I would "run" from them! They are no more than "snobs". It's kind of funny now, its more about the studio and software than the actual song itself! When someone ask me about PTOOLS I proudly say "no!" I let them listen to a song I've produced with CW PLATINUM and then we get to work. You have to educate the uneducated. Just my thoughts...
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 11:30:08
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 11:35:47
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2015/04/25 23:24:45
Sonar is professional. Reaper is professional. Pro Tools is the industry standard but losing ground. Your DAW is what you make of it. Pick one, learn it and make some music.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 12:02:42
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I've tracked lots of sessions in Mac Pro Tools, but then I would always take the WAV files and bring them into SONAR for adult editing. FWIW one of those projects won an award. But I think the performers and engineering won the award, not the software 
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 12:05:57
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jeff oliver
Pro tools was designed IMO, just to separate the big name studios from average consumers.
Sadly, this is becoming more evident as AVID seems to be casting the native users adrift. They seem to be moving toward a smaller market that is willing to pay much, much more for software and hardware. It's getting back to an exclusive club that is willing to lay out an entrance fee (of hardware and software) exceeding eight grand.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 12:07:22
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Anderton
... bring them into SONAR for adult editing.
Hmmmmm. Adding those wacka, wacka, wah-wah guitar tracks?
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 12:10:23
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Geo524
Sonar is professional. Reaper is professional. Pro Tools is the industry standard but losing ground.
Yeah.... don't know if I agree with that. I think that it's becoming more of an exclusive club but I'll agree that if you pick out a DAW product and learn it, you can make as much music as your imagination and ingenuity will allow.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 12:11:37
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Anderton
... bring them into SONAR for adult editing.
Hmmmmm. Adding those wacka, wacka, wah-wah guitar tracks?
LOL!
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 12:15:55
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Geo524
Sonar is professional. Reaper is professional. Pro Tools is the industry standard but losing ground.
Yeah.... don't know if I agree with that. I think that it's becoming more of an exclusive club but I'll agree that if you pick out a DAW product and learn it, you can make as much music as your imagination and ingenuity will allow.
If only one DAW existed, I'm sure most of the people in this forum could make music with it. As to whether Pro Tools is losing ground, if you look at retail sales figures, it definitely is. Some of that might be obscured by direct download sales (Avid does that, right?) but I think the main issue isn't Pro Tools per se. It's that new people coming into DAW-land have so many choices it's no longer "essential" to have Pro Tools. For a lot of people, SONAR, Live, Reason, etc. make more sense for what they do...so why not use those, unless you need to exchange projects with someone who's scoring the next "Lord of the Rings"?
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 12:27:13
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Geo524
Sonar is professional. Reaper is professional. Pro Tools is the industry standard but losing ground.
Yeah.... don't know if I agree with that. I think that it's becoming more of an exclusive club but I'll agree that if you pick out a DAW product and learn it, you can make as much music as your imagination and ingenuity will allow.
If only one DAW existed, I'm sure most of the people in this forum could make music with it.
As to whether Pro Tools is losing ground, if you look at retail sales figures, it definitely is. Some of that might be obscured by direct download sales (Avid does that, right?) but I think the main issue isn't Pro Tools per se. It's that new people coming into DAW-land have so many choices it's no longer "essential" to have Pro Tools. For a lot of people, SONAR, Live, Reason, etc. make more sense for what they do...so why not use those, unless you need to exchange projects with someone who's scoring the next "Lord of the Rings"?
But, aren't retail sales figures deceiving? Along with the retail sales comes a hoard of new users with an infinite combination of hardware and 3rd party software and all the customer support issues that it brings with it. It seems logical that it might be a good idea to have a strategic retreat back to defensible borders and get back to doing what you originally did well. (Or at least perceived to do well.) Anyway, I'm working on a few things in Platinum, trying to get my hot keys squared away and my speed increased and if someone asks if I have PT, I can say "Yes, but is it really beneficial to us and to the finished project?" My $.02.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 12:36:59
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But, aren't retail sales figures deceiving?
Not sure why they would be...if a company consistently sells X amount of software and then two years later is selling X/2, and the prices have remained relatively constant, you have to figure that's a decline (although as I mentioned, direct downloads may be making up the difference...I tend to doubt it, though). There's no doubt Pro Tools is still the top dog in the industry, but not to the extent it was. Logic has taken a significant bite out of it on the Mac platform, where Pro Tools was strongest.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 14:01:17
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Up in Canada there's only one big retail chain and it goes across the country like Musicians Friend does in the USA. I go in there and they never have the current version of Sonar and don't publicise the product at all. Their sales people don't know much about it today. After X1 they lost interest in the product.
To me this is a huge opportunity for Cakewalk, because this same chain is the official Canadian distributor for Gibson. Hey Craig, why not sprinkle a little of your pixie dust on Canada, because Gibson in Canada doesn't do much for Sonar.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 14:51:44
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In Canada...or spelt right = Canaan Da...The chains all tie to distributors who carry all gear that shows profit margins and allowed x markups,to gain the higher tax, and add on bit to pay the rent, and gain some profits off of, some times too much, charged the over priced store front in rents and taxes, when using the route of road rash movement to x location, more is added in cost to transport the product.
The electric download thing can cut all that out with digital software movement through electronic delevery....via downloads...and no walls or boarders...could free up a over costing tax burden and duty corrupted overly oppressed and terriffed method...needs be to over rule, or undercut....So we do not support the chaos, and cost comes down so more can have fun....As my friend Cat said...Where do the children play?.....hopefully play is still free for futures to come!!!....wink?.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 15:10:18
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In the Uk, it depends on the publication who they promote more. The engineer awards is different kettle of fish and you would need to research who won what on what year.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 15:14:07
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The reason is simple. The marketing.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 15:29:23
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this is actually a good question!
Marriage between Roland and Cakewalk was not a good one. The Japan side limited many efforts to protect Boss, and roland products...
Take v studio 100 for example, it could have been a 4 track recorder as well,....no...
take Dim Pro, it could have been like sample tank, GM module...no but they put limitations with miltitimbral....
sonar, .....and questions why.
but for any DAW you can have similar debates.. the answers are stick with it or dont.
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Re: why cakewalk sonar is not popular in award winner of sound engineers?
2015/04/25 15:30:32
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2015/04/25 23:27:45
Marketing is like make up...You can paint a pig...but it is still a pig....reference to those paying for it...and using it...to mislead.....Word of mouth is way more stable....So tell the industry.
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