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will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists...

Support for DDR3 1666+/1333/1066/800 MHz memory modules

or will the 1600 Mhz memory revert to the 1333 speed?
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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/10 18:22:56 (permalink)
    Depending on the motherboard and CPU and whether or not you are overclocking, the 1600MHz memory should revert to whatever memory speed is manually setup in the BIOS, or default to the speed appropriate for the CPU.

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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/10 18:31:09 (permalink)
    Just need to make sure the MB and processor support the mem speed.

    I have the Asus P6T motherboard...this MB support DDR3 2000,  1600,  1866 MHZ etc.... but the i7 processor does not support that speed....I'm using DDR3 1333 MHZ with no problem at all.

    I was using DDR3 1600 MHZ mem but the computer was crashing often.

    I guess depend on the processor you are using you might be able to go with 1600 or higher speed mem.

    Good luck.    
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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/10 19:56:16 (permalink)
    i never knew the memory type was also dependent on the processor.  so which processor supports the faster 1600 memory?  i was surprised to see that the i7 950 only supports 800/1066.


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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/11 06:54:15 (permalink)
    Although the motherboard chipset may support a certain speed, if the CPU does not support it, the bus will run at the speed of the CPU.  Also if you mix memory, all the memory will run at the speed of the slowest memory.

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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/11 09:28:09 (permalink)
    here is the deal, recently (very recently last few months) Intel has been messing with the processors.
    it used to be you could set the memory to 1600 on all processors without overclocking the cpu.
    basically raise the QPI/uncore.
    now they have locked down a few more things. such as locking the uncore @ 18 now
    the uncore has to be double the memory the QPI has to be double the uncore. (thats an easy answer)
    if you jack around with the Blck (up high) lower the qpi you may end up with something around 1550.

    used to be you could set the ram to 1600 and the QPI to 6.4 without OCing the processor.

    so to give a simple answer the best you will get on a 1156 processor thats newer without hassles is 1333


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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/11 09:31:21 (permalink)
    the RAM uses the same clock as the CPU.  the clock is set to the bus speed and the CPU is set to that clock with some multiplier.  you have to find a CPU that would support 1600MHz bus speed. 

    a quick look and I don't see any i7's that meet the 1600MHz bus speed, but I didn't look long.  someone may be able to find one for you.

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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/11 10:24:52 (permalink)
    its not that simple...
    all i7 1366 support 1600
    all older 1156 support 1600
    (regardless of what intels website says)

    what intel has done lately is to stop easy overclocking
    if you buy the 875 which is unlocked rather than the 870 (same default speed) you most certainly can set ram to 1600

    this is not the first time Intel has done this.

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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/11 10:47:13 (permalink)
    Ok - I was writing my last post at the same time you were writing yours, so I didn't see it before posting.  thanks.

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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/11 14:38:41 (permalink)
    so 1600Mhz memory for say an i7 870 is pointless?  No way to overclock that 1333Mhz memory to a higher speed? 

    I don't want to pick up a pair of 1600 memory for my 870 build if it will lock up.  But is it still possible to use that memory to take advantage of the timing speeds?  ie. 8-8-8-24 and hope that the CPU will downgrade the speed to 1333.
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    Re:will a motherboard support 1600 MHz memory if it lists... 2010/11/11 17:53:58 (permalink)
    not pointless entirely, we still use it in our 1156 builds (dont have to stock both plus the price point is too close)


    yes you can lower your Cl etc by using the 1600 cl 8 it should drop to 6.

    as i said you can fiddle with the settings until you reach something in the 1500 range but its not easy and you start maxing out the QPI we have gone to 7.2 but if you are going to do that you might as well go ahead and OC the whole system.
    you should be able to hit 3.6GHz without redlining anything.
    that will gain you more than anything else
    or buy a 875...

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