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2012/08/02 15:08:11 (permalink)

x2 has things...

and things and more things. clever things. essential things. as a (check no-one is looking, whisper it)sonar 8.5pe user....do i need this - i've seen bristol jonesy and others poo-poo then extol x1, and 2 cycles behind is about as much as i want to get...from a cost as much as anything POV. quite happy with S8.5. steve? james? [pretend firefox can do very small] Ed?

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    Jonbouy
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 15:32:29 (permalink)
    I'm with you on the lagging behind on the cost POV.

    I may indeed make the jump here the take and automation lanes may just be enough to prompt the jump if only because layers have never worked properly for me, and of course the messy Expanded bolt-on has been swallowed up which was inevitable and welcome.

    There's normally a small grace period between release and still being able to get it via the 'buy it now and get the upgrade free' deal to check out the hysteria on release to see whether it is messed up as X1 was.

    So I'm waiting and watching and liking the fact that it seems more about refinement rather than radical reform.

    I also noticed one of the X1 devout was even saying X2 looks like what X1 should have been...  If it wasn't so funny it would all be very, very sad.

    Quality of fit and finish is the only breakthrough Sonar novelty I'd REALLY like to see this time around.
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 21:47:47 (permalink)
    From the beginning, X1 (even before X1a) was stable for me. X1a fixed a baaaaad audiosnap failure (but I had Melodyne to use so no real biggie). So, I've had no complaints about X1 (no more so than 7, 8.0 or 8.5.3). My nits are minimal. Three simple things would make me happier.

    1. Full Colour Customzation of every widget, control etc.
    2. Nested Folders
    3. True audio track solo of a multi out drum folder when a drum map is deployed

    FWIW, everything in X2 will be welcomed by me and I suspect/hope that it will be more stable than X1 for all the others who had problems. But if it was hardware/settings/stars aligned for some, X2 may not fix that.

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 21:58:27 (permalink)
    Wait a minute you had X1 from the start.

    You had no issues?  How can that be?

    There have been 4 major updates fixing a whole rake of issues, and there are still issues dating back from several versions, you mean that it's been fine all along and they went to the trouble of releasing updates for nothing?  Why didn't you tell them?

    Are you still in mono?

    You can come out of denial now, X1 is dead.  Long live X2.


    post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/08/02 22:01:31

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 22:11:08 (permalink)
    ALL THE THINGS!
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 22:16:39 (permalink)
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    ALL THE THINGS!


    Things are cool, especially when you have all of them.

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 22:29:42 (permalink)
    I saw a sign that said "The best things in life aren't things."

    I can only assume that the person who wrote it didn't have any.

     
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 22:31:04 (permalink)
    @jonbouy... I wonder if X2 will come with a free fez... because, yanno... fezzes are cool.
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 22:35:46 (permalink)
    I'm not upgrading/have not been upgrading most of my software..  I am using old versions of NI, IK, PSpaudioware, Ableton, Reaper, Reason, Recycle, Nomadfactory...  

    However, I feel like I have good reasoning to, "keep up to date," Sonar, my other Cakewalk tools, and Renoise.  Therefore, I will be buying an upgrade to certain products.  Also.. Cakewalk hasn't seemed to fail me yet..  Rapture could be in better shape right now.. pfft. least of my problems.  what an easy life it would be if Rapture's bugs, actually qualified as a problem..   

    that said, "don't feel like you need to upgrade, just cause it seems like all the forum people are doing so."  Like I said above...  The vast majority of the software licenses I've got..  no plans to upgrade...


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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 23:09:24 (permalink)
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    @jonbouy... I wonder if X2 will come with a free fez... because, yanno... fezzes are cool.


    If it comes with a Fez I'll eat my hat.

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/02 23:26:39 (permalink)
    Oh.. And I might wait out a patch or a sale.. You never know.. Crazy economic times we livin in...

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 00:02:42 (permalink)
    Jonbouy


    Wait a minute you had X1 from the start.

    You had no issues?  How can that be?

    There have been 4 major updates fixing a whole rake of issues, and there are still issues dating back from several versions, you mean that it's been fine all along and they went to the trouble of releasing updates for nothing?  Why didn't you tell them?

    Are you still in mono?

    You can come out of denial now, X1 is dead.  Long live X2.

    Yeah. I had those denial issues.


    I ignored them.


    Simples.
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 00:12:14 (permalink)
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    Jonbouy


    Wait a minute you had X1 from the start.

    You had no issues?  How can that be?

    There have been 4 major updates fixing a whole rake of issues, and there are still issues dating back from several versions, you mean that it's been fine all along and they went to the trouble of releasing updates for nothing?  Why didn't you tell them?

    Are you still in mono?

    You can come out of denial now, X1 is dead.  Long live X2.

    Yeah. I had those denial issues.


    I ignored them.


    Simples.


    What issues?

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 02:32:28 (permalink)
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    I saw a sign that said "The best things in life aren't things."

    I can only assume that the person who wrote it didn't have any.
     
    Any best things? Or things? I'm confused cause I don't have either.
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 02:54:22 (permalink)
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    I saw a sign that said "The best things in life aren't things."

    I can only assume that the person who wrote it didn't have any.
     
    Any best things? Or things? I'm confused cause I don't have either.

    I left it ambiguous on purpose.
    (I'm like that.)

     
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 05:16:56 (permalink)
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    and things and more things. clever things. essential things. as a (check no-one is looking, whisper it)sonar 8.5pe user....do i need this - i've seen bristol jonesy and others poo-poo then extol x1, and 2 cycles behind is about as much as i want to get...from a cost as much as anything POV. quite happy with S8.5. steve? james? [pretend firefox can do very small] Ed?


    Like a large number of other users, I found the original X1 and X1a were extremely buggy and practically unusable, but from X1b onwards, most of the bugs that affected ME were ironed out.

    Since then I've moved on to a new machine, and X1d runs without problems

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 11:09:21 (permalink)
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    Since then I've moved on to a new machine, and X1d runs without problems 

    I wonder if the two are related in any way Colin?
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 11:24:50 (permalink)
    someone said 'the best things in life are free'. However, I don't believe that EZdrummer had been invented when they said it
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 11:25:24 (permalink)
    The things I have I haven't learnt quite yet so I Am wondering ifn I need X-2. I wonder ifn it will cost very much to upgrade cuz it seems like only yesterday I bought X-1. I Am feelin old again! 

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 12:16:57 (permalink)
     I don't need X2 but I want it...is that wrong?

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 12:19:12 (permalink)
    Starise


     I don't need X2 but I want it...is that wrong?

    No, it just means I'm rubbing off on you.


    Wait....... that really did not come out right.
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 12:31:33 (permalink)
     I didn't take it personal.

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 12:33:21 (permalink)
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     I didn't take it personal.

    Wise move.
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 13:08:57 (permalink)
    "History" is the thing it really has. Man...with all the "things"
    the bakers have learned from X1 back...I think they are probably
    going to make a show with X2. I just feel good about it and
    hope it is a great release for them and us.
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 21:07:39 (permalink)
    evidently if you show the sonar x2 box too much, you lose data connections.  I hope they work that out before commercial release.  

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/03 23:25:36 (permalink)
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    I don't need X2 but I want it...is that wrong?

    No, it just means I'm rubbing off on you.


    Wait....... that really did not come out right.


    That pretty much sums it up though. We all want it. I know I'll get it. I'm way behind on X1 improvements and I want those too. I'm still using 8.5.3 PE on the DAW and I don't want to ditch that program either. What's a DAW addict supposed to do?

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/04 02:51:20 (permalink)
    That pretty much sums it up though. We all want it. I know I'll get it. I'm way behind on X1 improvements and I want those too. I'm still using 8.5.3 PE on the DAW and I don't want to ditch that program either. What's a DAW addict supposed to do?



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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/04 03:17:41 (permalink)
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    That pretty much sums it up though. We all want it. I know I'll get it. I'm way behind on X1 improvements and I want those too. I'm still using 8.5.3 PE on the DAW and I don't want to ditch that program either. What's a DAW addict supposed to do?



    WE...................?


    You got a mouse in your pocket


    Now, now...  Don't be making fun of a member's strange or quirky habits. 

     
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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/04 03:41:48 (permalink)
    jonbouy,did you have alot of problems with x1 when it first came out?
    i have to say their were others out there that were indeed running smooth right out of the box.
    i was.
    the first update was to fix the autosnap as bapu said,the second one was to fine tune a few things but more or less make things better then fix things.
    the last two updates havent been critical ones just improving certain things like the prochannel.

    i dont see free updates again in the future though because i think cake took it as a slap in the face the way people reacted to some of these updates.

    i ran great right out of the box with out the first update,but i wasnt using autosnap,but was everything else.

    this release has been more mis represented than anything ive ever seen.
    but in a time were windows 7 had just came out,64 bit was still in early ages.
    it was alot of things.

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    Re:x2 has things... 2012/08/04 17:08:59 (permalink)
    Well, still 8.5.3 here.

    Two things would be helful (one critical) for me to upgrade:

    1) Return of full color flexibility (essential for some personal RL issues).

    2) An update to the circa 1987 notation module (not essential as Finale works fine for the initial writing).

    So: no upgrade.

    Note: for the relatively simple ways I use Sonar, 8.5.3 works just fine.

    At some point, if I ever need to go to using just one program rather than the Finale>Sonar process, at present, it couldn't be Sonar, as Sonar's notation is fairly useless for my requirements.

    post edited by noldar12 - 2012/08/04 17:10:41

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