x2 track take lane issues

 
There must be a quick visual way to know there is more than one clip in a track than having the lanes open!!!
 
If not, I have just lost 80% of the track view.
 
What am I missing?
 
 
 
 

hi jm.. i dont know if you are missing something but it seems fine to me, with multiple takes but take lanes closed i can see the vertical lines marking clip boundaries and if the clips are large enough, i can see the clip names...

millzy


Not that I have seen so far. But how could you tell previously using the old track layers?

With layers enabled the collapsed track displayed, in miniture, each layer: quick and easy.
 
Now another menu, without clear visual clues.
 
And having to expand all lanes means more screen use.

Well, there were enough clues around the Cakewalk site as to how take lanes were going to look. So why did you bother upgrading to X2? It has been well documented around here too that track layers were being replaced with take lanes.

Looks like you need to keep your fingers crossed that Cakewalk implement an option to use layers or take lanes in the future. There have been a few other similar complaints about this so they may listen to your request.

Aside from the lack of track layers how are you finding X2?

With layers enabled the collapsed track displayed, in miniture, each layer: quick and easy. Now another menu, without clear visual clues.

 
So are you simply looking for a visual indication that multiple clips exist on a given track?   If so, I'd certainly "+1" that request.  I doubt layers will be making a return - deprecated features rarely do - but some type of visual feedback without having to expand track lanes first would be convenient.   It's certainly nothing even approaching a show-stopper, for me, but would be a nice thing to have.  
 
As long as track lanes behave in a more logical and consistent fashion in daily use, vs. layers, I'm good.    For now.   
 

Should be a visual clue when the track is collapsed. Like layers provided.

Takes of equal length: only one clip is displayed

Clips of different lengths requires extra attention to know there is more than one. Nearly impossible when zoomed out.


And: When the track is completely collasped no 1-click way to open the lanes, on the track.

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And:  This is most disturbing:  (Am I missing this? Does this require another control key?)

Moving/Copying a clip to a track does NOT auto create a new lane. 
Using the move tool
   control-click clip
   copy to track
    replaces the first lane's content

A new lane must be created before copying/moving a clip to the track to avoid this.

And: the "smart" tool "filter" must be set to clips on the original clip. Even with the move tool.

This make no sense to me. SO, What am I doing wrong?

synkrotron


From page 371 of the X2 Reference guide:-

Collapsed, with at least one existing lane. The button has a soft blue glow

Yup.   Just great.    soft blue glow: Another variation of grey on grey.
 
soft blue glow: on a button that does not show if the track is completely collapsed.
 
Another "clutter reducer" requiring the user to pay more attention to the FUI than having a quck clear indicator.
 
I don't need SUBTLETY.  I need quick and simple.
 
The tools on my shop workbench are quick to recognize: the philips drivers and gold, the flat are red,....
 
Why must the Sonar X series increasingly require more attention to know what is active, and to change tools to do stuff?
 
 

I'm also looking for a way to quick collapse lanes back to a fully minimized track instead of collapsing to the main track then minimizing that too. It's an extra & unwanted step that was doable with layers.
Is there a way or setting?

(agree about the button placement position. Why not underneath the main so they're all located in one place?)

Don't wanna ask for a feature that I have just not found.

So, I ask first to clarify exactly what should be requested.

2 items so far:
   really obvious indication of multiple takes
   quck way to open/close takes and track