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z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
I don't know what happened, but lately z3ta+ 2 has become unusable to me because it keeps switching to the showcase bank. Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/11 10:20:41
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Hi Mike,
2.0 or 2.1?
~Bob
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/11 11:19:46
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Hi Mike,
2.0 or 2.1?
~Bob
Actually, it's 2.1. -- the one released in mid August. (Was there a 2.0?) Also I should add, I'm using z3ta2 in a simple instrument track, and I'm using the most recent version of X1, with all the patches etc.., 64-bit, in windows 7. I'm creating the simple instruments tracks using a track template. I'll try it without using a track template and see if that makes a difference. Is there possibly a midi event that z3ta thinks is a bank change command? I looked at the event view and didn't see anything suspicious. Another possibly significant detail: I'm using screen sets. The bank change seems to happen when I switch to another screen set. Thanks
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/11 15:09:59
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Z3TA+ 2.0 shipped in early August. The 2.1 update shipped in early October with a number of bug fixes - one of them sounds like yours. Can you you try downloading the update and let me know if it works? Thanks!
~Bob
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/12 12:34:26
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Bob Currie [Cakewalk
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Z3TA+ 2.0 shipped in early August. The 2.1 update shipped in early October with a number of bug fixes - one of them sounds like yours. Can you you try downloading the update and let me know if it works? Thanks!
~Bob
I took your advice and downloaded the latest update, the problem is resolved. Thanks!
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/12 14:20:17
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Actually I spoke too soon. The problem is back. The patch keeps switching back to the Showcase bank.
The version of z3ta I'm using is dated 9/29/2011. Is that the right version? I noticed that the install program indicated it was version 2.1.
Again, I'm using X1-C, 64-bit, Windows 7 (64-bit).
The problem seems to happen when re-use an existing project with midi in a z3ta track, then clear out all the midi (to start fresh).
I'll try deleting the z3ta simple-instrument tracks, and deleting the z3ta instances from the synth rack, and starting with new z3ta simple-instrument tracks to see if the problem goes away (as a work around, of course).
Thanks.
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/12 14:34:57
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Update: The problem seems to happen when I start playing right on a z3ta note -- the the patch changes to the Showcase bank.
The problem DOES NOT happen when I start playing before the z3ta notes start.
So, as a work around, I have to tippy-toe through a mine field of z3ta notes -- I have to make sure that whenever I press play (i.e. space bar), I'm not sitting on a z3ta note. Yikes!
I want to continue to use z3ta2, because I need some of the sounds for my project (synthesizer arrangement of Holst's Planets) -- but this is becoming tricky :-)
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/12 18:36:47
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Hi Mike,
This is strange. Just to be sure that you're 2.0 version isn't still hanging around somehow, click on the "Cakewalk Z3TA+2" logo and check the product version at the bottom of the "About" screen. If it's 2.1, give us a detailed recipe of what patches you're using, etc. - we'll have to test here and see if we can reproduce the problem. Let me know - thanks!
~Bob
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/13 10:24:51
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Bob Currie [Cakewalk
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Hi Mike,
This is strange. Just to be sure that you're 2.0 version isn't still hanging around somehow, click on the "Cakewalk Z3TA+2" logo and check the product version at the bottom of the "About" screen. If it's 2.1, give us a detailed recipe of what patches you're using, etc. - we'll have to test here and see if we can reproduce the problem. Let me know - thanks!
~Bob
Hi Bob, I double-checked the version by looking at it on the bottom of the "About" screen -- it's 2.1. (I'm also seeing the option to select other tunings.) It doesn't seem to matter which patches I use, but here are a couple I've been using lately which keep changing on me: factory content / pads/ Binaural Voyage factory content / pads/ Generic Saw Pad They both change to factory content / showcase / FM Hall Practice F1. I also tried reproducing the problem with these patches in two new projects: Project 1: Using my customized "Normal" template, which has a couple busses with Uhbik-A for reverb (by Urs Heckman). In this case I was able to reproduce the problem. Project 2: Using a pre-defined Cakewalk template, "16 Track Audio". In this case I was NOT able to reproduce the problem. I hope this information is helpful. Thanks!
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/15 08:17:44
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Hi Mike,
Can you send me your modified 'Normal.cwt' in a PM? Thanks!
~Bob
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/16 14:45:31
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Bob Currie [Cakewalk
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Hi Mike,
Can you send me your modified 'Normal.cwt' in a PM? Thanks!
~Bob
I tried sending the file as an attachment -- via PM to you -- but kept getting "upload failed" error. Would you like to PM me an email address I can send the attachment to? Thanks.
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/16 22:50:40
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Hi Mike,
Just a guess... But SONAR tracks have a Bank and Patch field. Make sure they're both set to 'None.'
When you hit play, SONAR may be trying to switch Z3TA+ 2 to the patch specified in on the track.
Bill Jackson Product Manager Cakewalk
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/17 13:10:52
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Bill Jackson [Cakewalk
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Hi Mike,
Just a guess... But SONAR tracks have a Bank and Patch field. Make sure they're both set to 'None.'
When you hit play, SONAR may be trying to switch Z3TA+ 2 to the patch specified in on the track.
Thanks for pointing that out. I just checked. For all my z3ta2 tracks, I'm seeing that bank and patch are set to "none".
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2011/11/20 13:40:06
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Here are some more facts that might help in troubleshooting:
1) Every time I set the bank / patch to Factory Content / Showcase / Creamy Poly XS, the patch changes to Classic Tammy WRJ as soon as I play the track. Note that Classic Tammy WRJ is listed just before Creamy Poly XS in the patch selection list.
2) The problem doesn't seem to happen in simple projects that have only a few simple instrument tracks -- although I did create a piece for z3ta2 that had over 30 instances of z3ta2, but no other instruments.
3) In my project, I'm also using Zebra and ACE (by Urs Heckmann). The project as about 40 simple instrument tracks in all.
I really like Z3ta2, and hope that I can keep it in my arsenal. However, if this problem doesn't get solved, I will not be able to continue using Z3ta2. The only work around I have for now is to freeze my z3ta2 tracks, but that creates a lot of other challenges for me.
Thanks.
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Re:z3ta+ 2.0 -- patch keep changing on me (in X1)
2012/01/26 11:15:25
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I recently got a new laptop, and installed X1 and z3ta2 on it. I'm no longer experiencing the issue. I can't say whether it went away because of the new laptop, or because I did a fresh install of X1 and z3ta2.
Anyway, that's good news for me!
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