z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all.

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2008/01/16 12:58:35 (permalink)

z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all.

the import from MID file function in z3ta v1.5.3 arp does not work. :(

can someone from cakewalk or Rene please respond in kind? really sucks that it doesn't work as promised.

please see this thread from kvr post for further info.

thanks!

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    techead
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/01/16 13:43:04 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: grymmjack

    can someone from cakewalk or Rene please respond in kind? really sucks that it doesn't work as promised.


    If you want an official response from Cakewalk be sure to contact them about the issue being experienced. Posting here may get you some additional opinions from those of us who use the product but it is not a Cakewalk support channel and they may not respond here.
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    grymmjack
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/01/16 13:48:02 (permalink)
    hey thanks techead. will do.
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    kwgm
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/01/16 15:48:01 (permalink)
    You're going to have a problem getting a response this week from anyone in the biz--there's a big tradeshow.

    I've only been able to get the simplest of arps working with Z3ta 1.5, and not in every slot. For instance, an arp that works in slot 152 doesn't work in 151 (I'm making up these numbers--just illustrative).

    One feature that would resolve the issue is a MIDI out channel from Zeta, so one can dump an arp to Sonar and see what's what. I use this technique to discover how the arps in my Yamaha synth work, time consuming as it is. A better solution would be documentation of the arps, but I'm not holding my breath for that one!

    There doesn't seem to be any logical organization of the existing 120 or so arps in Z3ta as they now stand. Bass arps next to phrase arps next to more bass arps. I believe the arps in Z3ta were more of a 2nd thought add in for marketing than designed as a useful feature.

    I know I don't sound it, but I'm a fan of Z3ta and the other RGC synths.

    --kwgm
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    b rock
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/01/16 19:02:33 (permalink)
    Just another end user here. Try this workaround:

    Options -> Import MIDI File to Arpeggiator ... Click on the AR button under Low Frequency Oscillators.
    Use the dropdown menu (only) under Pattern to select one of the other shipping arps (for instance, Arp001).
    Then select MIDI File from the same Pattern dropdown menu.
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/01/16 19:21:04 (permalink)
    I forgot about NAMM. Everyone might be busy. Still I'd prefer to interact with Rene' than trying to contact support. Hopefully he'll either answer here or at his old forum. We're talking about the import of midi files into the Arp. A feature that was added at 1.5 if I remember correctly. The old method of converting midi files to .cmp files always worked for me it's just that the 200 arp limitation and the fact that arps had to be named arp-001, arp-002, etc was very limiting. With the hundreds if not thouands of presets available for Z3ta keeping the arps organized was a nightmare. You had to manually change out the arp files if you loaded a new bank that used custom arps in the lower numbers. Let me clarify that we're not just talking about arps. These are really miniature sequences (8 Bar Contact for example). So the ability to load your own midi file directly into the arp without having to convert it and rename it every time and have that info saved with the preset file would have been a Godsend. Unfortunately it never worked for me and I gave up even trying until today when Grymmjack brought up the subject again. We both tried all day and came up with the same results. It appears that there is a bug in the way Z2ta handles and loads midi files into the arp. This is something that can't really be solved by contacting support. This appears to be an issue that needs to be tested and worked on further and I'm more than willing to spend the time as a Beta tester to help resolve the issue and I'm sure grymmjack would be as well.

    If anyone has actually gotten midi file import to work reliably and consistently I'd love to hear how and get it working here. Until then we'll just have to wait and see if Rene' answers.
    post edited by Teksonik - 2008/01/16 19:42:49
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    Teksonik
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/01/16 19:24:42 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: b rock

    Just another end user here. Try this workaround:

    Options -> Import MIDI File to Arpeggiator ... Click on the AR button under Low Frequency Oscillators.
    Use the dropdown menu (only) under Pattern to select one of the other shipping arps (for instance, Arp001).
    Then select MIDI File from the same Pattern dropdown menu.


    Yes we tried that but it's unreliable at best and presets saved afterwards frequently do not retain the midi info (actually never here). Yes it's a workaround that sometimes works but hardly an elegant solution to a problem in an otherwise brilliant synth.
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    Teksonik
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/01/26 08:18:55 (permalink)
    Just a bump to keep this issue fresh. Both Grymmjack and I have put in support requests but I only got a reply saying they were waiting to hear from Rene'.
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    ChristopherM
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/01/29 11:50:30 (permalink)
    Yes we tried that but it's unreliable
    Same here.
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    Teksonik
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/01/30 19:05:50 (permalink)
    Ok that makes at least three users who are having an issue with the midi import feature. Still no response from Cakewalk or Rene'. It's a shame, Rene' never struck me as the type of programmer that would settle for releasing buggy software.
    post edited by Teksonik - 2008/01/30 19:21:10
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    Teksonik
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    RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2008/02/08 20:37:39 (permalink)
    Did a fresh install of Z3TA+ on my new system. Same results. It won't even load the test midi files included in the install. Still no response from Cakewalk about this bug and I have submitted three support requests so far.
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    Pokeyoats
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    Re: RE: z3ta+ v1.5.3 arp import from MIDI does not work at all. 2011/01/12 11:12:58 (permalink)
    I too am having the problem with the importing of MIDI into Z3TA+. Does anyone have a solution for this?

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