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2013/01/29 11:23:08 (permalink)

12 band members murdered

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 11:26:15 (permalink)


    :-(

    It's no wonder why people want to cross the border.

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 11:35:29 (permalink)
    I would not set foot in that craphole if you paid me to. A potentially beautiful country ruined by these drug dealing savages. A friend once showed me a video of them cutting off the head of a guy with a chainsaw and that was enough for me. 

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 12:16:43 (permalink)
    I certainly won't be going back - glad I sold the four resort properties I had down there!

     
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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 12:33:34 (permalink)
    That's horrific.  Very sad news indeed.  Praying for the families of the victims.
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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 12:38:13 (permalink)
    I'm afraid that's what the world is coming to Michael.  It's beginning to happen more and more

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 12:44:52 (permalink)



    Unfortunately ...... More proof that evil is ever present. Makes me sick as you guys are. 

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 12:53:33 (permalink)


    I don't see why some people think it is worse now than at some other time.

    I kinda think it's easy to feel cozy where I am at... but it seems like any where people don't go out of the way to be nice to each other... the absence of that fills the void.

    It's always been like that.


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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 13:06:15 (permalink)
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    I don't see why some people think it is worse now than at some other time.

    I kinda think it's easy to feel cozy where I am at... but it seems like 

    That's a good point. There has always been barbaric sensesless murders going on since forever. Perhaps it's the technology and news media that puts it in our face. You can get depressed fast thinking about it. 






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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 13:06:52 (permalink)
    With friends like that Sharke, ol pal, who needs enemies??

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 14:07:02 (permalink)
    You know, for a while Cirque considered the possibility of sending the show there for a couple of month. If I were a religious man, I'd say that my prayers were answered... 

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 19:08:01 (permalink)
    OK... at the risk of being perceived as crude, insensitive, a jerk, whatever other word.... 

    Have you heard some of those Mexican bands...?  Could be classified as justifiable homicide.....ya? 


    And yeah... I lobbied hard to get our church's youth mission trip to Juarez Mexico canceled.... which they did..... eventually, and then the following year they decided to go into the Veracruz state, further south. Again I lobbied to get it canceled and was told "That is where our Hispanic pastor was from and it was a very safe area"..... so they were going.....up until the drug gang in Veracruz decided to kill some rivals...... on the sidewalk, directly in front of the hotel where out kids would be staying. I had already pulled my daughters out of both trips. The heck with the money..... my daughters are priceless to me. 

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 19:27:33 (permalink)
    I had already pulled my daughters out of both trips. The heck with the money..... my daughters are priceless to me.

     
    Good for Herb. It is good to hear someone standing up and saying what needs to be said. All this stuff is horrible and I fear that it is not going to remain in Mexico or other countries. Too many young people are uneducated these days and too many don't even know what morals are much less have good morals.. AND (and talk from our brilliant government about gun control) is why you cannot even buy .22 cal ammo. There is some 12 guage and some .357 and I've seen a little bit of .40 and .45 but it is overpriced. People are buying everything they can get their hands on... I need some hyper velocity .22 in case anyone sees some.
     
    I bet the home security business is booming too.
     
    BTW, Obama is shutting down TARS (Tethered Aerostat Radar System), the southern border radar system. One link, there are many: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2982677/posts come on in drug planes, terrorists... the door is open.
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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 20:33:27 (permalink)
    The mexican gangs are in just about every town and they are ruthless... running the competition out of business.  In this small town I have heard that we have identified 42+ gangs. 

    As far as ammo.... the shelves are bare and it's being rationed when it does come in...and at high prices. 

    Trying to find certain types of guns is also very difficult.

    You do know that several government agencies that have no business with ammo ...like TSA,  FDA, and others, have bought hundreds of millions of rounds of hollow point ammo in the popular calibers. Now the interesting thing is this. The Geneva Convention prohibits the use of hollow point ammo on the battle field against foreign troops in a theater of war...... so..... could I assume that it's officially prohibited for use against foreign troops on a battle field,,,,,, BUT not prohibited against civilians in our own country..... would that be a fair assessment? 

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 21:00:01 (permalink)
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    As far as ammo.... the shelves are bare and it's being rationed when it does come in...and at high prices.  

    The Geneva Convention prohibits the use of hollow point ammo on the battle field against foreign troops in a theater of war...... so..... could I assume that it's officially prohibited for use against foreign troops on a battle field,,,,,, BUT not prohibited against civilians in our own country..... would that be a fair assessment? 

    That would be the ONLY explanation Herb

    Have you seen the mess with the Joint Force exercise going on in Florida to supposedly be in prep for something else where?   No need to be flying BlackHawks down the streets of Miami shooting blanks and the public not aware of the purpose or even worse just a cover up for something much bigger  


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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 21:04:59 (permalink)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV4MnhWlnMQ


    Kind of not funny thinking of all us veterans with PTSD.  

    Let it get dark out, start flying choppers around with machine guns firing-NOT GOOD for the response many were trained to react and respond to in certain ways.    NOPE-NOT a good idea at all

    I cant imagine how Id react
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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/29 22:31:44 (permalink)
    WTF!!!!!!!!

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/30 02:21:53 (permalink)
    Horrific!!! 

    Crime involving drugs occurs in other countries; in Australia there's been shootings - murders in regards to drug gangs and in one incident mistaken identity that resulted in a musician losing his fingers. 

    Drug gangs will use whatever means to murder using other alternative weapons such as; knives and as Sharke said; a Chainsaw {yikes}  Acid is another method - I remember several years ago reading the news about a body that was dumped in a 55 gallon drum of acid. 

     
     
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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/30 02:52:45 (permalink)
    Makes you wonder just how many people have lost their lives because of the so-called "War On Drugs" which has pushed the drug trade exclusively into the hands of criminal psychopaths. 

    I used to smoke a bit of weed but to be honest I never felt comfortable about where it came from and what kind of hands it had passed through. Was I sitting there with a happy smile on my face, high on a plant that people had chainsawed heads for? Did anyone lose their lives somewhere along the chain? It's a good a reason as any to stop indulging in pot and other drugs, unless you're 100% sure where they came from (and not everyone gets theirs from the friendly hippie down the road who has a grow room in his basement). 

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/30 03:20:01 (permalink)
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    Makes you wonder just how many people have lost their lives because of the so-called "War On Drugs" which has pushed the drug trade exclusively into the hands of criminal psychopaths. 

    I used to smoke a bit of weed but to be honest I never felt comfortable about where it came from and what kind of hands it had passed through. Was I sitting there with a happy smile on my face, high on a plant that people had chainsawed heads for? Did anyone lose their lives somewhere along the chain? It's a good a reason as any to stop indulging in pot and other drugs, unless you're 100% sure where they came from (and not everyone gets theirs from the friendly hippie down the road who has a grow room in his basement). 

    Yes it has pushed the trade to the hands of criminals psychopaths. 

    A reminder of the times when alcohol was prohibited, lots of people ran for the hills (Hillbillies) to make moonshine. But in this case (these people; not to be compared with murderers) eventually alcohol was back to regular (legal) business as usual. 

    Legalize pot but meanwhile alternative drugs will continue to be manufactured; make no mistake -- these cocktail drugs can be most certainly lethal. Recently read an article Here about a student who tried to rip his own face off. I guess he most certainly suffered from very powerful hallucinatory effects of the drugs. In other incidents 'self-mutilations' and death has been reported. 
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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/30 12:36:48 (permalink)
    I really wonder about some of these new drugs...back in the early 90's I admit I took some near Jim Morrison-esque doses of LSD, frequently with other "party drugs" and never once did I have the urge to eat anyone's face, tear my own face off or otherwise hurt or harm anyone. Maybe the general population is gravitating toward face eating tendencies anyway, that drugs are magnifying to the point of action. 

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/30 20:42:59 (permalink)
    This is exactly why I think you shouldn't have more than four band members...

     
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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/31 08:58:17 (permalink)
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    As far as ammo.... the shelves are bare and it's being rationed when it does come in...and at high prices.  

    The Geneva Convention prohibits the use of hollow point ammo on the battle field against foreign troops in a theater of war...... so..... could I assume that it's officially prohibited for use against foreign troops on a battle field,,,,,, BUT not prohibited against civilians in our own country..... would that be a fair assessment? 

    That would be the ONLY explanation Herb

    Have you seen the mess with the Joint Force exercise going on in Florida to supposedly be in prep for something else where?   No need to be flying BlackHawks down the streets of Miami shooting blanks and the public not aware of the purpose or even worse just a cover up for something much bigger  
    Yeah I saw that... on Drudge IIRC.... what the heck is the govt thinking doing that?  I hear they are doing it in several large cities around the US of A...  I believe the constitution prohibits the deployment of US troops on US soil..... their excuse for not putting the military on the Mexican border..... 


    so technically, the choppers firing blank rounds are in the air...not ON the US soil (ground).  Is that their rational? Training for urban warfare or "inoculating" the US population for the next step.... tanks rolling down main street? 


    Maybe they can just deploy UN (multinational troops) on US soil.... that would again not technically be US troops... ya? 


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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/31 09:58:28 (permalink)
    Weren't the reserves called into Detroit in '68?

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/31 10:37:50 (permalink)
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    Makes you wonder just how many people have lost their lives because of the so-called "War On Drugs" which has pushed the drug trade exclusively into the hands of criminal psychopaths. 

    I used to smoke a bit of weed but to be honest I never felt comfortable about where it came from and what kind of hands it had passed through. Was I sitting there with a happy smile on my face, high on a plant that people had chainsawed heads for? Did anyone lose their lives somewhere along the chain? It's a good a reason as any to stop indulging in pot and other drugs, unless you're 100% sure where they came from (and not everyone gets theirs from the friendly hippie down the road who has a grow room in his basement). 


    Most of the weed available in the UK comes from one of 2 major sources - imported from the Netherlands, or grown in this country (by ever increasing numbers of organised Vietnamese rings). Either way, I don't think anyone's getting chainsawed over it.

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    sharke : Makes you wonder just how many people have lost their lives because of the so-called "War On Drugs" which has pushed the drug trade exclusively into the hands of criminal psychopaths.

    Not nearly as many as those who have lost there lives due to the War on Terror...
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    sharke : Makes you wonder just how many people have lost their lives because of the so-called "War On Drugs" which has pushed the drug trade exclusively into the hands of criminal psychopaths.

    Not nearly as many as those who have lost there lives due to the War on Terror...

    +1 for shoehorning a completely irrelevant political issue into the discussion 

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/31 11:32:58 (permalink)
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    Makes you wonder just how many people have lost their lives because of the so-called "War On Drugs" which has pushed the drug trade exclusively into the hands of criminal psychopaths. 

    I used to smoke a bit of weed but to be honest I never felt comfortable about where it came from and what kind of hands it had passed through. Was I sitting there with a happy smile on my face, high on a plant that people had chainsawed heads for? Did anyone lose their lives somewhere along the chain? It's a good a reason as any to stop indulging in pot and other drugs, unless you're 100% sure where they came from (and not everyone gets theirs from the friendly hippie down the road who has a grow room in his basement). 


    Most of the weed available in the UK comes from one of 2 major sources - imported from the Netherlands, or grown in this country (by ever increasing numbers of organised Vietnamese rings). Either way, I don't think anyone's getting chainsawed over it.

    Yeah there's probably nobody getting chainsawed over it, but I would not be surprised if at some point up the chain you are dealing with gangsters with guns. As I recall in the UK, the last guy I used to get it from was an outright hippie, but he wasn't too comfortable about the guy HE got it from, and said that THAT guy's supplier, on the couple of occasions that he'd met him, was a very shady looking gangster indeed. Always best to get it from the person who grew it if possible. At least it's not as bad as it was back in the 80's and early 90's in the UK, when most of what was available was decidedly suspect "hashish" (quotes intended) which usually came packed with various fillers like henna, and in some cases, vinyl (when people say "I wish we could go back to the days of vinyl" it has two meanings for me )

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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/31 11:52:20 (permalink)
    "hashish" (quotes intended) which usually came packed with various fillers like henna, and in some cases, vinyl (when people say "I wish we could go back to the days of vinyl" it has two meanings for me )

     
    CRAP... wow, another reason to do something about the "War on drugs" at least concerning pot and hash. The WOD is never going to tbe something that can be won. It makes things worse in most cases BUT... while I think pot and hash being illegal is nonsense, where does it stop? The libertarian in me says that all drugs should be legal, the pragmatist says, "remember quaaludes?", then I have to rethink it. Some things like ludes and PCP are truly dangerous. Personaly, in my view, if it grows on this planet... I have a right to it as a resident. I am on the fence about LSD. Some people have problems, most dont... in any case, it seems to me that the more that gets legalized, the more drugs that are truly dangerous are going to be pushed by the cartels. I really don't know the right answer but pot really shouldn't be included in the discussion. I think if Dupont hadn't pushed the demonization of pot when they wanted to eliminate hemp from being a competitor with their "then new" synthetic fibers.. we wouldn't be having this discussion, at least not about pot.
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    Re:12 band members murdered 2013/01/31 12:02:30 (permalink)
    At least it's not as bad as it was back in the 80's and early 90's in the UK, when most of what was available was decidedly suspect "hashish" (quotes intended) which usually came packed with various fillers like henna, and in some cases, vinyl


    Well that takes me back - we had some stuff once which looked totally genuine until you tried to heat it, then it just fell apart and the insides looked like something from  a vacuum cleaner bag.

    We didn't smoke it.

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