Additive Sine, BandLimited, Iterations, Phase Shift, Serries and Smoothed.

That was fast, and much appreciated. It's verified. I've got them in place already.

if I'm EVER going to go deep into Dim Pro, this is as good a reason as any

It's a relatively painless way in. Check out the Dimension Pro or Rapture pages on the P5 Wiki for some pointers. Or just post your questions/experimentations to the Instruments forum here. It's been starving for programming discussion/tips here lately.

These waveforms were great for Absynth, and I'm liking them for both Rapture and Dimension Pro. Thanks for pointing them out - I hadn't noticed them until I saw this thread.

Can somebody enlighten me as to the exact folders these multisamples are supposed to create.

Here's my structure in Rapture.

That's a very nice waveform in your Tunings folder there, b rock.

That's where I put my Fine Tunings, Cryo.

I take the fact that you're looking for "programming discussion/tips", as a GOOD sign.

Two cups of stubborn, a dash of determination, and more than a touch of unexpected goodwill, Mike. I lost all of the 'works in progress', but after weeks of digital meters, soldering irons, acoustic guitar, and Microtrack recharge times, I'm ready to rock.

Even the creator of Architecture CE (Andrew Souter) helped out here. I might've been able to restore the waveform package from a partial backup, but I was more than a little concerned with corrupted data.

Sorry for the kind of basic question(s) but:
1) I have Dimension from P5...not Dimension Pro....I gather the waves work in that as well (from the comment, any flavor of Dimension, but I just wanted to check)
2) I have Z3ta+...., I think you can use the waves in that, but...how hard is it to add your own waves to Z3....I vaguely remember trying a long time ago (or maybe it was Pentagon??--at my age...memory must be going....what was I saying?? ) to create and use a couple of waves and it wasn't easy. So, if you wanted to scroll through the waves to hear what was there, would it be easy or hard in Z3?

Sorry if these are basic questions...... but this sounds like a good way for a modest tweaker like me to create some of my own stuff.

TIA

1) I have Dimension from P5

I haven't used that since DimPro came out, but when I was, I did work a lot with wavetables. It's set up the exact same way as DimPro LE, DimPro, or Rapture.

2) I have Z3ta+...., I think you can use the waves in that, but...how hard is it to add your own waves to Z3....

It's not difficult since v.1.4. First, select the User (x) slot that you'd like to replace with another .wav file. Click on Programs, and select Load User Wavetable (.wav). Rene suggests to keep open the Shaper window so you can see what's happening. In 1.5 onward, you can manipulate the Shaper, right-click and Save As Wavetable ..., and bring it right back in again as a User file.

So, if you wanted to scroll through the waves to hear what was there, would it be easy or hard in Z3?

There's no real way to audition the wavetables without them being loaded. So, that's a one-at-at-time audition; in context.

There's one more caveat that I should mention as well. For some reason, z3ta+ doesn't seem to like the Architecture CE 24-bit depth. I never really pursued why that was before I batch-converted this set into 16-bit for exclusive z3ta+ use. Maybe 16-bit is just what's supported. From the 1.4 Release Notes:

The wave files must be mono, up to 64k samples, in any sample rate.

OK, looking at the release notes for 1.1 - 1.4 there is a mention of a "Wavetable Set Creation" utility. Intriguing, but I can't find it anywhere. Any clues?

From my reading of the website, I would go with the CE version - it has 2,500 waves! If Absynth requires 16 bit waves, well you already have to do that for z3ta+. At $29.95 this is a great deal.

Mike

Is there a way I could buy just one set of waves and still use them for all three (Absynth, Z3 and Dim?) I understand I will have to convert to 16 bit for Z3.

PM me if you would, Ray. I think that I have an idea for you that'll work across both [Cakewalk] synths and cover Absynth's native GLY format, too.

Hey, has anyone come across any dimpro presets using this library?

I mentioned this to Mr. Souter when I first discovered this set. Understandably, he was cautious about any unauthorized re-distribution of his hard work. I did reply that was not my intention, and unethical practice. But ...

That doesn't prevent anyone from developing presets on some synths, based on this wavetable set. A Program file in DimPro or Rapture, for example, is going to look for its component parts first in the Multisample folder, then in the Sample Pool folder. If it doesn't find them there, only then will it spit out an error [Multisample Not Found]. If we assume the default Architecture CE folder structure, there's nothing keeping anyone from creating some .prog files to match.

The Programs contain references to the Multisample locations, but not the Multisamples themselves. So that fulfills the licensing requirements regarding re-distribution. If you don't have the Architecture CE set, the .progs themselves will do you little good. I suppose that it'd be equally appropriate to post preset file links here at Instruments, or at Galbanum's own forum. (I joined there, but it seems to be down at the moment.)

We've yapped on and off over the last few years around here about putting together a good user-based patch site for .sfz files.

René even was working on something with Tom for hosting some such content up at the RGC:Audio website. Whatever happened to that? Or am I thinking of something else?

We've yapped on and off over the last few years around here about putting together a good user-based patch site for .sfz files.

I would love to contribute to that. Would the p5 wiki be able to host it?

I am realizing now after downloading the samples that they really are enhancements that can be applied to existing banks. I think they open up opportunities I never even fathomed were possible

I've heard a lot about how great these waveforms are, but my sonic imagination is limited. Would anyone mind thowing up a before/after demonstration on existing banks to show what is possible? I have DimPro and love to find new ways to augment it, but in this case I'm scratching my head as to how these will help.

René even was working on something with Tom for hosting some such content up at the RGC:Audio website.

Sad story: Use it or lose it. Two total contributers besides myself, and later on the domain and site resources were no longer available. Here's the background story (Rapture Prog Central) and the next chapter ([Download] 64 Program Rapture Set). I wasn't able to save the two other sets, but I mirrored my own set for that adventure here: (B Rock Collection RP-1).

For some other resources (the links in these threads are current):
110 More Presets for Rapture 1.1
[Download] Friday The 13th Rapture Programs
VOSIM Synthesis - Rapture and Dimension
Project5.com Dimension/Rapture Content

{In this last link, you'll have to hunt around, as there is no category for Dimension or Rapture. Usually, they're labeled as "PSYN" presets. Be sure to check out the contributions from forum member lawapa.}

Would anyone mind thowing up a before/after demonstration on existing banks to show what is possible? I have DimPro and love to find new ways to augment it, but in this case I'm scratching my head as to how these will help.

I wouldn't feel good about taking someone else's preset work, substituting the Multisamples, and then uploading it. Even if that was free, it's still re-distributing someone else's content. My own? That's fine, but in terms of 'existing content', I only have presets that ship with Rapture.

I don't see where an image demonstration would hurt, though. It's for the exclusive use of the end user, and it bypasses the distribution agreements. I'll put it in the next post, because it'll have to be fairly 'tall'. That way, I can cover three synths and three of the methods in one spot. (z3ta+ will have to be later on.)

a before/after demonstration on existing banks to show what is possible

[Top Image:]
In Dimension LE below, I started with a blank (initialized) Program, and clicked on the Load Multisample slot in each of the four Elements [E1-E4].
Under the Architecture Waveforms CE folder, I went to the Additive - NonSine subfolder, and chose a different waveform in each.
A simple program was generated that resembled pulling drawbars on some spacey Hammond organ.

[Middle Image:]
In Dimension Pro, I loaded the perennial preset favorite Alien Piano 1.prog from 01 -Dimensions. Again, click on E1 & E2's Multisample slot.
Here, I went to the Arch CE 'Smoothed' subfolder, and swapped out strings and piano for some additive saw wavetables.
The results? Something more aggressive: Alien Piano with a real attitude.

[Bottom Image:]
In Rapture 1.1, I loaded the TB Leslie Kneelson preset in 00 - Absolute. The first four Elements are occupied.
For this, I navigated to the Formants - Sine subfolder for some vocal-like textures; different for each Element.

On E1's Pitch StepGen, I turned it On, and dragged out 128 Steps. Right-click to bring up 'Extract Shape From Sample File'.
Then I scrolled down to Misc - Random Step, and selected Random 32 Step 08Grit.wav. Nasty little four octave glitching.
The original preset now contains contrasting organic and robotic sounds, still swept by a 'Leslie'.

Wow b! 7000 posts!!!!!!

I never pay attention to that; I just noticed. Breaktime.

Got it...thanks. Ordered one today....will order the other tomorrow.