cheers man, my friend recommended i jump right into c+++ and i have and im enjoying it so far, that nyquist language is low level c my friend said, he said was probably a good starting point, i keep looking aboutt his site here http://musicdsp.org/archive.php?classid=1#272, this is the kinda thing im aiming for, then its a question of how i get my own codes into synthmaker, i know you can do it some how cuz other developers out there are doing it