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3rd Update: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
So...I have a couple ideas I want to propose. Tell me if they're crazy or not... 1. A SONAR user's meeting. This would be held in Nashville, and would be open to anyone willing to come here for a day. We could compare notes, teach each other tricks, I could do some demos (maybe even do a SONAR-based performance), we could order pizza for everyone...have a jam with some Les Pauls or something...whether it made sense or not would depend on how many people would be interested, but I see it as a more or less all-day "meet and greet." If there were enough people we could probably occupy a restaurant or something. Maybe I could even convince Henry J to make a guest appearance if he's in town (the odds are against it, but you never know...). 2. "SONAR in the Real World" tour. I'd rent a car for a week or so, and visit SONAR users based in Tennessee but maybe also go into Kentucky, Arkansas, Georgia, or the Carolinas. I'd do videos where we'd go over projects and figure out ways to improve the mixes or master them or whatever. If this sounds like shameless ripoff of Sound on Sound's "Mix Rescue," it's close.  I think it would be cool to meet SONAR users, see how they use the program, check out their studios, show them some tricks, and learn from them. The videos could be posted on line. This wouldn't be about "stars," but about real people doing what they like to do with SONAR. This would require Gibson loaning me to Cakewalk for a week, but Henry J likes interesting ideas so he might go for it. I haven't discussed this with anyone from Gibson or Cakewalk, but they like surprises  . Crazy? Cool? Dumb? Interested? Not interested? Comments?
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 01:22:55
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Nashville? We all know NYC and LA are the real music centers.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 01:34:07
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I want to keep the travel budget down, and I'm in Nashville - "Music City, USA."  It's not just country anymore and hasn't been for quite some time. Jack White lives around here, and there's quite a metal scene. NIN sold out the Bridgestone arena. Of course if the concept is a hit, then we could do it in other places. But FWIW, I've done hundreds of seminars/get-togethers in 38 states, 10 countries, and three languages. New York and LA are the worst places to try to get people together for this kind of thing. The best-attended seminar I ever did for a single, one-time-only event that wasn't part of something else was about 300 people in San Antonio, Texas. Nashville, Atlanta, Columbus, Seattle, Vancouver, Mexico City, Dallas, Portland, Copenhagen, Sacramento...those are the kinds of places where people really turn out. You can get more participation in Lubbock, Texas than in LA. Prior to Gibson, I was asked to consult about a series of seminars another company was planning to do. The first thing I said was "Well whatever you do, don't do New York or LA." They were taken aback and didn't believe me. They ended up canceling the New York one because not enough people signed up (and it was free), and the LA one went ahead but attendance was way below expectations.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 01:41:29
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#1 is a great idea. #2 is good but probably would reach fewer people.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 01:42:57
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konradh #1 is a great idea. #2 is good but probably would reach fewer people.
I dunno, #2 would generate videos which I think could be pretty popular. Actually Konrad, YOU should be one of the people I visit!! I still think your CD is extremely cool.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 01:50:04
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Yeah I know, just a little joke. I know Nashville is right up there with those cities for music. Hmm, that's weird. I never would've thought that would be the case especially with all the people in the NY and LA metropolitan areas. Have you ever figured out why people don't turn out to these types of events in NY or LA?
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 02:17:23
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Sort of like Presonusphere.
Maybe do a webcast so those of us in other countries can participate at some level.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 02:20:40
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Anderton I haven't discussed this with anyone from Gibson or Cakewalk, but they like surprises . Crazy? Cool? Dumb? Interested? Not interested? Comments?
They're not surprised now, are they  I like both ideas. The Nashville meet and greet sounds enticing, but I really like the other idea. "I think it would be cool to meet SONAR users, see how they use the program, check out their studios, show them some tricks, and learn from them. The videos could be posted on line. This wouldn't be about "stars," but about real people doing what they like to do with SONAR." This really grabs me. Periodic road trips to various parts of the country(not just the Southeast), to visit Sonar user studios. If the powers that be approved it, visits to our overseas friends would be cool, but that would probably be a push. Certainly the power users would be cool to see, but how inspiring would it be for new users to see the countless, more modest studios in use? There is a fantastic interactive vibe going between Cakewalk and the user base right now, and this would be in tune with that.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 02:32:41
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I like the road trip idea, maybe if you got close enough, and if not, we would all get the videos :)
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 03:12:38
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It's not possible for me to be personally involved but I'd love to watch any videos that result from these trips.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 03:22:01
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Nice idea Craig. When you run out of places to go, I'll let you sleep on my couch when you come to South Africa :O) Meanwhile, filming all of it would be great - even setting up some online Q&As for guys like me - and you'll have to email my slice of pizza, obviously. Looking forward to it!
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 05:10:33
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I think its a great idea! I think we would all learn from the experience, even if it was say a series of you tube video's for most of us, Off Worlder's.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
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☄ Helpfulby jbow 2015/04/13 09:29:35
How about another crazy idea: Let Gibson sponsor Pensado's Place, kick out ProTools and make him do Sonar InTheLair. http://pensadosplace.tvMakes me sick how he sucks up to Avid. ..but learned plenty from his interviews with mixers and producers.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 07:15:53
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....This ^^^ Something I would be VERY interested in... MEL
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 07:31:31
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I would be interested in number 1 certainly - it would give me another reason to visit Nashville (its been on my list of places to go for awhile now.) No. 2 would be interesting to see videos of Sonar and Craig (and our other fine musicians/producers) in action.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 07:35:03
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I would be interested if at all possible, I like the part of jamming with musician's, maybe "On-Hands" about mix/mastering idea's, sharing concepts/music and having fun!
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 07:40:24
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Count me in for a Nashville user group meeting!
I'm just a hobbyist, but would really enjoy learning from the Pros and seeing what can really be done with Sonar!
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 09:31:30
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☄ Helpfulby karhide 2015/03/20 13:21:53
Come to the UK and drink warm beer and eat chips in the rain! [translation; chips == 'fries', only much better] Have you ever thought of hosting a 'webinar' (or whatever the cool kids are calling it these days)?
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 09:38:00
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ston Come to the UK and drink warm beer and eat chips in the rain! [translation; chips == 'fries', only much better] Have you ever thought of hosting a 'webinar' (or whatever the cool kids are calling it these days)?
Totally agree.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 10:06:51
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☄ Helpfulby karhide 2015/03/20 13:22:22
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ston Come to the UK and drink warm beer and eat chips in the rain! [translation; chips == 'fries', only much better] Have you ever thought of hosting a 'webinar' (or whatever the cool kids are calling it these days)?
Totally agree. 
Chips and peas would be better...
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 10:08:24
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I like both ideas, but Memphis more than Nashville. Sun Studios and Forrest Park. I think Gibson needs to provide you an RV so you can roam a little farther afield without breaking he bank. @
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 10:20:17
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Either idea sounds great, if there's video for us that can't attend in person. Craig, I imagine your sense of geography is really good, but northern Michigan is really close to Nashberg! LOL Nashville is certainly the more central and easiest for you, now. It is a "big small town", though it can get loopy, driving around and round and round........ Pizza by email??? I think Amazon is working on that! LOL Pensado has to do what his clients "think" is pro.... I do like ITL Kale chips and hummus? Michael
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 10:20:50
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I live 100 miles north of Nashville and visit an amount. Weekend would need to happen. I'd love you checking out my setup but I'm not nearly the "power user" I think many are here on the forums. I do make a lot of videos and many show my setup ( ck my sig links). But it would be an "event" with my dawgs!
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 10:27:25
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I love both ideas but please video everything! I could even help with the rough edits if you'd like and send you the .veg (I'm running Sony Vegas Pro 12). I'm pretty much retired now (or at least changed directions toward music only) but you can check out some of my work here https://vimeo.com/user601951/videos
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 10:44:07
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I'm in favor of anything Craig wants to do.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 10:47:29
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Great ideas, Craig! Would love the videos.
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 11:10:48
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I'm down for either. I'm in Memphis, so just a 3 hour drive. I don't know other Sonar users here although I'm sure there have to be some.
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2015/03/20 11:23:57
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I'm outside of Atlanta and this sounds WONDERFUL!
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Re: Two Crazy Ideas Involving SONAR Users
2015/03/20 11:44:36
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Dear Gibson and Cakewalk, I have been with you since the C-64, please let Craig come out and play, he truly is a milestone in the lifecycle of Cakewalk. This will be a revealing insight into the usage through some influenced ears, and oh yeah, eyes too. Children and the rhythm section first!
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