5 Totally Delusional Reasons for Switching DAWs (warning: contains snarky humor content)

Given the recent spate of threads, I thought y'all might appreciate a little humor. (By the way, you'll need to click "Continue to page" to skip the opening screen).

The ultimate irony is that Dan Goldstein at Acoustica is the one who pointed out to me that this column had been posted online.

yep!  I read that in EM.  It's in my "reading room" 

Anderton

qlne


Ok, Anderton.  It's the 'time out' chair for you.....

The funny part is that all the DAW manufacturers who've commented on it so far think I'm talking about their users.

You hit it on the head in a different thread: with the seemingly limitless plugins, hardware, and configuration combinations, any DAW programmer is fighting an uphill battle trying to come up with a program that works for everybody. Use the right software for the job at hand.

LOL Just in time.  

I really try to avoid the negative threads, but ya know sometimes ya accidentally get caught in one.  (It is possible to get snagged when Trolling is going on )

Dang Trebble Hooks  

Sure.
 
Some of us though have augmented our software tools with different tools and don't limit ourselves to a single application and are aware that they are not all created equally.  Also some of us have no interest in the software we choose other than they offer us things we like and that they work well and have no vested interest in showing one thing in a good or bad light unless it fulfils or fails in that criteria.
 
Likewise different manufacturers deal with customers differently to others some bad some good.
 
Lastly whilst I'd agree that all forums have pretty much the same players with different names it is a top 5 that is certainly designed to overlook some of the reality behind them in order to support an agenda.  Then again you did warn us that it was snarky, so you fulfilled that brief for sure.
 
I'll give you a real example from one of the great unwashed forum massive that you are mocking though. 
 
One company I've officially reported more than several bugs to, sometimes more than once, yet none has been fixed in subsequent upgrades, thats not even counting the all too numerous ones that are known so I haven't bothered to report because I know for a fact others have reported the same things, yet via another DAWs forum I've casually mentioned a couple of issues that I wasn't sure were actually issues or user error and lo, I've been contacted by support who have worked through issues with me until they were resolved.  3 bugs in total I've reported there in the same time frame every single one has been addressed in the very next release.  I can always elect also to join the public betas that run for a few months every time a major release happens and actively work on get extant bugs fixed that way.
 
One of those places is this particular forum and one isn't see if you can guess which one is which.  I'd like to be able to offer a little joke about that but sadly that's the actual facts.  So I'm sorry if that comes across as a bit of a downer.  Some folk have enough intelligence to discern differences I'm afraid and therefore don't fit your cosy little insider generalisations.
 
So your fun chart there might have been posted as light relief but I consider it to be hugely insulting to many of those here that are clearly having serious issues and yet are having trouble being heard among such things as the glibness you've just posted, not as harmful as some of the personal stuff that gets thrown at people because they dare mention can't get the software to do enough of what it is supposed to do I grant you but unhelpful just the same.
 
Oh, and someone really had to point out to you that an article that you'd written had actually been posted online?
 
Unbelievable.
 
Not only that the humour is pretty lame IMO, you want a good belly laugh I'd suggest spending half an hour in the Coffee House.  It might be at your own expense mind you but if you ain't too prissy about that kind of thing I guarantee you'll have yourself a few laughs among some really gifted comedians...  
 
 

backwoods


Who is the funny guy in the Coffee House. The only things that have ever made me laugh there are links to outside articles.

There you go then you found something funny too.
 
Besides. don't underestimate your own powers of comedy, I find that your visits are generally an abundance of good fun.
 

John


Sorry Jonbouy that was uncalled for. Mr. Anderton has been a friend to every one on this forum. That can not be said of some others.

In my view he has just as much right to post a link to a page he thinks would get a laugh from us as anyone else. Further, if we take ourselves too seriously it will be our fault if we go away unhappy. 

You have concerns that are important to you. I suggest you post them in a thread that you start. Maybe just maybe we could all learn something or even help one another.

I'm not dissing Mr Anderton John, please don't attribute emotions to me that aren't mine.
 
I'm just saying I've seen funnier posts on the same subject than that.  That's all.  We all have different things that tickle our zone, just chill man there's enough fighting going on here already we don't need another one between us over absolutely nothing do we?
 
Craig is a fair minded individual and has shown he can answer any question I may pose eloquently and effectively once today already.
 
I respect the guy I'm not trying to put him down and I'm sure he's not offended either, I'd be surprised if he was.  So why should you be worried about my interaction with someone else?
 
If he starts kicking me because of what I've written then feel free to join in otherwise don't make it appear there's stuff going down that isn't there. 
 

Jonbouy

John


Sorry Jonbouy that was uncalled for. Mr. Anderton has been a friend to every one on this forum. That can not be said of some others.

In my view he has just as much right to post a link to a page he thinks would get a laugh from us as anyone else. Further, if we take ourselves too seriously it will be our fault if we go away unhappy. 

You have concerns that are important to you. I suggest you post them in a thread that you start. Maybe just maybe we could all learn something or even help one another.

I'm not dissing Mr Anderton John, please don't attribute emotions to me that aren't mine.
 
I'm just saying I've seen funnier posts on the same subject than that.  That's all.  We all have different things that tickle our zone, just chill man there's enough fighting going on here already we don't need another one between us over absolutely nothing do we?

Do you genuinely believe your statements in this post, Jonbouy?  Honestly, hand on heart?
 
I'm just asking.

Jonbouy

John


Sorry Jonbouy that was uncalled for. Mr. Anderton has been a friend to every one on this forum. That can not be said of some others.

In my view he has just as much right to post a link to a page he thinks would get a laugh from us as anyone else. Further, if we take ourselves too seriously it will be our fault if we go away unhappy. 

You have concerns that are important to you. I suggest you post them in a thread that you start. Maybe just maybe we could all learn something or even help one another.

I'm not dissing Mr Anderton John, please don't attribute emotions to me that aren't mine.
 
I'm just saying I've seen funnier posts on the same subject than that.  That's all.  We all have different things that tickle our zone, just chill man there's enough fighting going on here already we don't need another one between us over absolutely nothing do we?
 
Craig is a fair minded individual and has shown he can answer any question I may pose eloquently and effectively once today already.
 
I respect the guy I'm not trying to put him down and I'm sure he's not offended either, I'd be surprised if he was.  So why should you be worried about my interaction with someone else?
 
If he starts kicking me because of what I've written then feel free to join in otherwise don't make it appear there's stuff going down that isn't there. 
 

Are you serious? re read your post a few times. You called it hugely insulting, is that now a term of endearment? Only one example.
Yes, there is way too much fighting on here and your post favors that agenda.
 As I said, re read your post .
It's ok because you ended with a stupid Smiley? No-it's not.

stratman70

Jonbouy

John


Sorry Jonbouy that was uncalled for. Mr. Anderton has been a friend to every one on this forum. That can not be said of some others.

In my view he has just as much right to post a link to a page he thinks would get a laugh from us as anyone else. Further, if we take ourselves too seriously it will be our fault if we go away unhappy. 

You have concerns that are important to you. I suggest you post them in a thread that you start. Maybe just maybe we could all learn something or even help one another.

I'm not dissing Mr Anderton John, please don't attribute emotions to me that aren't mine.
 
I'm just saying I've seen funnier posts on the same subject than that.  That's all.  We all have different things that tickle our zone, just chill man there's enough fighting going on here already we don't need another one between us over absolutely nothing do we?
 
Craig is a fair minded individual and has shown he can answer any question I may pose eloquently and effectively once today already.
 
I respect the guy I'm not trying to put him down and I'm sure he's not offended either, I'd be surprised if he was.  So why should you be worried about my interaction with someone else?
 
If he starts kicking me because of what I've written then feel free to join in otherwise don't make it appear there's stuff going down that isn't there. 
 

Are you serious? re read your post a few times. You called it hugely insulting, is that now a term of endearment? Only one example.
Yes, there is way too much fighting on here and your post favors that agenda.
 As I said, re read your post .
It's ok because you ended with a stupid Smiley? No-it's not.

I do think it is hugely insulting given the current storm up here to be posting glib generalisations such as this while the apparent weather here shows some geniune folk here are having real issues and are having trouble being heard.
 
Does that diminish my respect for Mr Anderton in anyway?  No it doesn't I'm the absolute master at saying the wrong thing at the completely wrong time.
 
One can have strong views about things and pose questions, without feeling a need to shoot someone, it's part of being able to conduct your self as an adult.  Sure I'm being critical.  It just depends whether you are talking about what is being said rather than the messenger. 

Hey Craig.
 
Here's number 6.
 
It doesn't matter what was actually said it's what we believe you said that's important.
 
I'd forgotten that one clearly.

Jonbouy


Sure.
 
Some of us though have augmented our software tools with different tools and don't limit ourselves to a single application and are aware that they are not all created equally.  Also some of us have no interest in the software we choose other than they offer us things we like and that they work well and have no vested interest in showing one thing in a good or bad light unless it fulfils or fails in that criteria.
 
Likewise different manufacturers deal with customers differently to others some bad some good.
 
Lastly whilst I'd agree that all forums have pretty much the same players with different names it is a top 5 that is certainly designed to overlook some of the reality behind them in order to support an agenda.  Then again you did warn us that it was snarky, so you fulfilled that brief for sure.
 
I'll give you a real example from one of the great unwashed forum massive that you are mocking though. 
 
One company I've officially reported more than several bugs to, sometimes more than once, yet none has been fixed in subsequent upgrades, thats not even counting the all too numerous ones that are known so I haven't bothered to report because I know for a fact others have reported the same things, yet via another DAWs forum I've casually mentioned a couple of issues that I wasn't sure were actually issues or user error and lo, I've been contacted by support who have worked through issues with me until they were resolved.  3 bugs in total I've reported there in the same time frame every single one has been addressed in the very next release.  I can always elect also to join the public betas that run for a few months every time a major release happens and actively work on get extant bugs fixed that way.
 
One of those places is this particular forum and one isn't see if you can guess which one is which.  I'd like to be able to offer a little joke about that but sadly that's the actual facts.  So I'm sorry if that comes across as a bit of a downer.  Some folk have enough intelligence to discern differences I'm afraid and therefore don't fit your cosy little insider generalisations.
 
So your fun chart there might have been posted as light relief but I consider it to be hugely insulting to many of those here that are clearly having serious issues and yet are having trouble being heard among such things as the glibness you've just posted, not as harmful as some of the personal stuff that gets thrown at people because they dare mention can't get the software to do enough of what it is supposed to do I grant you but unhelpful just the same.
 
Oh, and someone really had to point out to you that an article that you'd written had actually been posted online?
 
Unbelievable.
 
Not only that the humour is pretty lame IMO, you want a good belly laugh I'd suggest spending half an hour in the Coffee House.  It might be at your own expense mind you but if you ain't too prissy about that kind of thing I guarantee you'll have yourself a few laughs among some really gifted comedians...  
 
 

I post only to be sure nothing is edited. 

If you think members are not being heard here when they report problems you need to stay around here a lot more and read some threads. I know its not as much fun as being in the CH and it may take some actual work to figure out what the problems are but that is what we do up here. Its not fun, its not glamorous and its not very easy all the time but it is very rewarding.
 

ROFL. Brilliant.

Jonbouy


Here's my favourite post on forum culture currently.
 
It's actually much sadder than the picture Craigs mild humour has managed to convey.
 
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/why-all-that-whinging-online-is-counterproductive/0109111?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mcvuk%2Fstream+%28MCV%3A+Home+Stream%29
 
The subsequent posting here has kind of confirmed it yet again.
 
Forums everywhere are eating themselves alive.
 
So score points y'all over what you think my intent has been here.  Unlike the invitation I offered Craig for a response, you guys don't even bother with such niceties, well I just dangled my foot in the pirhana pool so just make up your minds to suit your good selves and feast away.
 
You watch though the world will still be spinnin' tomorrow just the way it did today.
 
That's about how important how all this dramatic stuff that happens here is.  Someone just called ME deluded...lol.

Bless your heart, you answered my question, anyway.  Thank you for your swift response.
 
I agree with you that the world will still be spinning tomorrow, even after Craig's post, too.  I find your reaction to Craig's post a little oversensitive.
 
There does seem to be a certain paranoia and martyr syndrome prevalent in the forum at the moment.  I am sure it will pass.
 
I felt Craig's list had a ring of truth to it.  I will certainly be sharing it with students and colleagues, regardless of what DAW they use.  They will either find it funny, or not.  I suspect they won't take it personally, though.

jb101

Jonbouy


Here's my favourite post on forum culture currently.
 
It's actually much sadder than the picture Craigs mild humour has managed to convey.
 
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/why-all-that-whinging-online-is-counterproductive/0109111?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mcvuk%2Fstream+%28MCV%3A+Home+Stream%29
 
The subsequent posting here has kind of confirmed it yet again.
 
Forums everywhere are eating themselves alive.
 
So score points y'all over what you think my intent has been here.  Unlike the invitation I offered Craig for a response, you guys don't even bother with such niceties, well I just dangled my foot in the pirhana pool so just make up your minds to suit your good selves and feast away.
 
You watch though the world will still be spinnin' tomorrow just the way it did today.
 
That's about how important how all this dramatic stuff that happens here is.  Someone just called ME deluded...lol.

Bless your heart, you answered my question, anyway.  Thank you for your swift response.
 
I agree with you that the world will still be spinning tomorrow, even after Craig's post, too.  I find your reaction to Craig's post a little oversensitive.
 
There does seem to be a certain paranoia and martyr syndrome prevalent in the forum at the moment.  I am sure it will pass.
 
I felt Craig's list had a ring of truth to it.  I will certainly be sharing it with students and colleagues, regardless of what DAW they use.  They will either find it funny, or not.  I suspect they won't take it personally, though.

Did I?
 
Where did that bit happen again? 
 
You guys seem to be better experts than me on what I write so show me.
 
btw Craigs list has more than a ring of truth about it, it was just thought it was a bit limp not that it wasn't accurate.  I did say that was IMO though.  Given that it was posted 'in the light of the spate of recent threads'  I still think it was untimely and hugely insulting to those that have been trying to point out issues within that recent spate being referred to in the OP.
 
Again like the other one it's a thread that would have been better off in the appropiate forum and we could all have a chuckle (or not).  Guaranteed anyone else who'd posted that here and it would have been flushed down the U bend into the CH by now.
 
I'm also confident that if Craig has issue with anything that I've put there as being unfair he's more than capable of putting me straight without the need for all the ladies-in-waiting intervening on his behalf.
 
And why John has bothered to quote my post there is beyond me, perhaps he's judging people by his own standards because he knows full well that I don't come back and edit my posts after the event, even when some folk would prefer that I did at times.