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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 02:07:21
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you apparently have to submit to Presonus that you own Cakewalk, to get a "code" from them to be qualified to buy the crossgrade. Read the blog at Presonus (or it's linked on other threads here). Says it may take a couple days to receive your code. Basically you send a pic (screen capture) of your Sonar CCC page or your Sonar "info" page....or sales receipt.
I think if you buy from JRR you have to send them the documents (screenshot serial #) and they send it to Presonus. There isn't a place to but in a code you would receive from Presonus on JRR just a way to upload an image.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 02:14:09
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I am just slightly confused. The box in the ad at JRRshop shows Studio One 3. The little videos on that ad page are of versions 3 and 3.2. Although the most recent version of the demo I just got is 3.52
So at JRRshop, are we getting v3, 3.2, or v3.5? the original pasted note of Rick Naqvi doesn't mention any version.
What convention of advertising, selling and acquiring software am I missing here? I do experience old versions of software are usually at significant discounts.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 02:19:17
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Crossgrade for Cakewalk customers now listed for 299.95 at JRRshop?
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 02:23:51
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☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/11/28 02:31:44
bwbalint
I am just slightly confused. The box in the ad at JRRshop shows Studio One 3. The little videos on that ad page are of versions 3 and 3.2. Although the most recent version of the demo I just got is 3.52
So at JRRshop, are we getting v3, 3.2, or v3.5? the original pasted note of Rick Naqvi doesn't mention any version.
What convention of advertising, selling and acquiring software am I missing here? I do experience old versions of software are usually at significant discounts.
Version 3 will get you v3.52. Presonus have not charged for point releases as of yet.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 02:48:53
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Got a notice that the license will come after it is "manually generated" but...nothing yet.
Check your junkmail box. Mine was in there FSR.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 02:54:03
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DarinBad, Thank you for your answer. I do remember reading somewhere that Presonus hasnt charged for point releases. Now I have read it twice! Appreciate it.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 03:36:13
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DarinBad, Thank you for your answer. I do remember reading somewhere that Presonus hasnt charged for point releases. Now I have read it twice! Appreciate it.
Yeah. Presonus have been very generous about that. Their point releases have contained added features that most companies would charge an upgrade fee for. I feel terrible about what has happened with Cakewalk, but I think many Sonar users will be pleasantly surprised with both Presonus and Studio One.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 06:51:16
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I upgraded my S1 version 2 to this latest version 3.5
It was a real good deal for me.
Also think both Presonus and Cubase offers are nice. Neither company had to do a damn thing. The fact that they did, at such a short notice too, speaks volumes for both companies.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 07:47:26
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rj davis
Got a notice that the license will come after it is "manually generated" but...nothing yet.
Check your junkmail box. Mine was in there FSR.
Still don't have that email from JRRShop (even in junk), but the updated "message from Rick" page says to send proof of ownership to crossgrades@Presonus.com, so I did. Note that this is sending proof to Presonus directly, not via JRRShop. We'll see...
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 08:02:41
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Also think both Presonus and Cubase offers are nice. Neither company had to do a damn thing. The fact that they did, at such a short notice too, speaks volumes for both companies.
I agree. You really can't go wrong with either one of them. I very much prefer the workflow of Studio One, but Cubase is just a beast (in a good way). If your work is primarily MIDI based, Cubase is probably the best fit for you at the moment. My work is primarily audio oriented. My use of MIDI is usually limited to drums and keys. Studio One is just about perfect for me. I do have a copy of Cubase Pro that I keep keep updated. The latest version is stellar, but my needs are better suited to Studio One at the moment.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 10:52:42
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I emailed PreSonus yesterday, asking about the crossgrade.
In my inbox this morning I got a message from PreSonus support telling me to access my account at their site and there was an answer waiting for me there.
Once at the checkout, and I had added a coupon, as directed, the price came down to $168.27 (converted to £130.59). The Black Friday deal at PreSonus was £172.20, so I call that a result, and I took them up on their offer.
That said, it was probably a bit reckless of me and I now have fully paid up versions of SONAR Platinum, Reaper and Studio One 3.
I fully intend to stay with SONAR so Reaper and Studio One 3 are my insurance policies, if you like. I have been enjoying my time, over the weekend, getting to grips with SO3...
Cheers, and thanks to PreSonus,
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 11:07:10
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Who is the other competitor?
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 11:09:56
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Thx for the heads up all...PreSonus does have some points in the bank as they have hardware options that last longer than Roland's.  Hope I like them....
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 11:58:35
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synkrotron
I emailed PreSonus yesterday, asking about the crossgrade.
In my inbox this morning I got a message from PreSonus support telling me to access my account at their site and there was an answer waiting for me there.
Once at the checkout, and I had added a coupon, as directed, the price came down to $168.27 (converted to £130.59). The Black Friday deal at PreSonus was £172.20, so I call that a result, and I took them up on their offer.
That said, it was probably a bit reckless of me and I now have fully paid up versions of SONAR Platinum, Reaper and Studio One 3.
I fully intend to stay with SONAR so Reaper and Studio One 3 are my insurance policies, if you like. I have been enjoying my time, over the weekend, getting to grips with SO3...
Cheers, and thanks to PreSonus,
andy
THIS may actually work to your benefit. Sometimes crossgrades force you to surrender your existing License to get the crossgrade. I, too, bought the FULL version, specifically to avoid this type of situation. That way no matter what, I'm safe from "disaster".
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 13:37:38
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2017/11/28 14:25:46
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THIS may actually work to your benefit. Sometimes crossgrades force you to surrender your
existing License to get the crossgrade.
Hi Larry, yeah, I hadn't given this much thought to be honest, so I just went ahead regardless. I've double checked the T's and C's and I can't see any mention of surrendering our SONAR license. Fingers crossed this is the case, or else I would have to deactivate SO3 until SONAR no longer works for me. cheers andy
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 14:20:30
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☄ Helpfulby kennywtelejazz 2017/11/28 14:23:43
Crossgrade is different to Trade in.
Trade in is about getting money back (or discounts) in return for what you hand over.
Crossgrade is all about offering incentives to switch allegiance from one manufacturer to another.
As Cakewalk is no longer trading, crossgrade offers are either to entice users away from the remaining competition, or a genuine offer of help. As most of the crossgrade offers are very similar in nature we must assume that there is a least a little bit of philanthropy.
At the end of the day, the other DAW producers gain more customers and Sonar users get cheap entry into replacement DAWs. I don't see an issue.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 14:33:29
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Karyn
Crossgrade is different to Trade in.
Trade in is about getting money back (or discounts) in return for what you hand over.
Crossgrade is all about offering incentives to switch allegiance from one manufacturer to another.
As Cakewalk is no longer trading, crossgrade offers are either to entice users away from the remaining competition, or a genuine offer of help. As most of the crossgrade offers are very similar in nature we must assume that there is a least a little bit of philanthropy.
At the end of the day, the other DAW producers gain more customers and Sonar users get cheap entry into replacement DAWs. I don't see an issue.
Thanks Karyn, so I simply don't have a problem and, after all, I can only use one DAW at a time anyway. I'll be honest, this is the first time ever that I have taken advantage of a "crossgrade," so I wasn't really sure. The end cost, coupled with the quick reply to my original query, and the fact that I have been using it for nearly a week now, with interesting results, convinced me to part with my hard earned (in my opinion) cash. Still some issues I have to address, like bank/program changes to my MIDI hardware, but not quite a show stopper. cheers andy
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 14:55:55
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synkrotron
That said, it was probably a bit reckless of me and I now have fully paid up versions of SONAR Platinum, Reaper and Studio One 3.
Heh... Yeah that can happen... I have Splat (which has now, it would seem, gone Splat!), Reason 10, Live 9, and I just bought Mixbus for $29, because $29 (and I've heard interesting things about it as a mix environment)... and I'm *still* interested in this deal (more so than Cubase, ironically since I actually used Cubase for several years long long ago before I discovered Sonar). And still harbouring a vague back-burner interest in Reaper and, increasingly, Mixcraft, especially since I've been hearing good things about it from people here. Step 1: admit that you have a problem... (And let's not even get started on Vat/i's!)
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 15:17:41
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Step 1: admit that you have a problem...
Haha! Yeah! I have a problem... Just don't tell the missus... Could be worse, I could be addicted to online gambling! At least I have something to show (in a virtual sense) for all that expenditure 
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 15:33:15
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Since I'm mostly an audio guy, I'm leaning towards Studio One 3 (also seeing this is a very nice deal). I still have a copy of Studio One 1 Artist (yes, the first one), but haven't played much with it. I'd like to use Splat as long as possible, but would hate to be stuck without a DAW. Good to see there's a month left to make the jump.....
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 15:47:00
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I have a version of Live that came with the Focusrite 18i20 2nd gen I bought last year. I wonder if that will lower the cost of an Ableton "upgrade". Although I'm looking at SO Pro too, and now maybe Cubase. Lord knows...
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 16:01:43
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☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2017/11/28 16:07:24
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Karyn
Crossgrade is different to Trade in.
Trade in is about getting money back (or discounts) in return for what you hand over.
Crossgrade is all about offering incentives to switch allegiance from one manufacturer to another.
As Cakewalk is no longer trading, crossgrade offers are either to entice users away from the remaining competition, or a genuine offer of help. As most of the crossgrade offers are very similar in nature we must assume that there is a least a little bit of philanthropy.
At the end of the day, the other DAW producers gain more customers and Sonar users get cheap entry into replacement DAWs. I don't see an issue.
Thanks Karyn, so I simply don't have a problem and, after all, I can only use one DAW at a time anyway.
I'll be honest, this is the first time ever that I have taken advantage of a "crossgrade," so I wasn't really sure.
The end cost, coupled with the quick reply to my original query, and the fact that I have been using it for nearly a week now, with interesting results, convinced me to part with my hard earned (in my opinion) cash.
Still some issues I have to address, like bank/program changes to my MIDI hardware, but not quite a show stopper.
cheers
andy
Hi synkrotron, You can carry on using SONAR along side Studio One, I have for a number of years now and it has never been an issue. As Karyn said above, it is a crossgrade not a trade in. Andrew.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 16:08:12
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Drocket
Hi synkrotron,
You can carry on using SONAR along side Studio One, I have for a number of years now and it has never been an issue.
As Karyn said above, it is a crossgrade not a trade in.
Andrew.
Thank you for confirming that Andrew
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 16:24:07
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No-brainer... $126 I'm feeling better.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
2017/11/28 16:30:45
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synkrotron
subtlearts
Step 1: admit that you have a problem...
Haha! Yeah! I have a problem... Just don't tell the missus...
She probably already knows. In my experience, they are not half as unobservant as we optimistically convince ourselves they are.
Could be worse, I could be addicted to online gambling! At least I have something to show (in a virtual sense) for all that expenditure
No, you only have something to show for it if you stop looking at stuff you don't have but might want to pick up one day, and actually make some music with the stuff you already have. Extra points if anybody else, ever, hears the music you make. Extra extra points if you make a tiny bit of money from that. Note: this falls firmly into the "do as I say, not as I do" category 
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
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☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2017/11/28 16:34:58
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Drocket
Hi synkrotron,
You can carry on using SONAR along side Studio One, I have for a number of years now and it has never been an issue.
As Karyn said above, it is a crossgrade not a trade in.
Andrew.
Thank you for confirming that Andrew
Your welcome , I just sent you a PM regarding Reaper, hopefully it will be useful for you. Andrew.
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
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Extra extra points if you make a tiny bit of money from that.
Haha! Fifty quid so far over at Bandcamp... Somehow, some peeps do have an appetite for the stuff I do No where near enough to cover my hobby expenses though hahaha!!!
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
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I've been recorded a couple hundred times!
Wait a minute, I'm not sure being recorded with the church service every week counts.....? Or does it 😊
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Re: A message from Rick Naqvi—VP of Sales, PreSonus Audio Electronics
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But my wife does say things time to time about why four guitars, misc amps, EV sound system, mixer board.....I could go on but why.....
jambrose@cfl.rr.com Sonar Plat. Lifetime. Started in Sonar 4, each through 8.5.3PE. Scarlett 18i202nd gen., Edirol FA-101, M-Audio Firewire 410, AMD Phenom II 1045T six core processor, 8GB DDR3, AMD Radeon HD 6450, dual displays, 1.5 TB SATA HD, USB 2, Firewire 1394A, 1394B, 18/22 mixer, EV Q-66, Yamaha HS50M monitors, few guitars, Fender Cybertwin SE, Fender Cyber foot controller, Boss RC20-XL, misc pedals, etc. Win Home Prem 64 bit.
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