AD2 drum map ARRGH!

Some time back I followed the appallingly complex way to get the AD2 drum maps right and it worked. Then it stopped working; I do not know why. I can now only get what everything has; General MIDI etc percussive and Diatonic etc melodic.
 
I tried going through the process as far as deleting AD2 Standard Map and AD2 Track.cwx, and then replacing them with the ones originally extracted. But opening a new file based on AD2 Project template still leaves me without the AD2 drum map.
 
The AD2 drum map is assigned to DM1 in the Drum Map Manager. The drum names are all there and the Port/channel is 1-1-Addictive Drums 2 1/1.
 
Thanks for any help.
 
 

 try https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013364/Setting-up-a-Drum-Map-for-Addictive-Drums-2-in-SONAR.
 
As I said, it worked for me, but now I can't get it to work again. know how you go.

Ah. That is when you select the output right?
 
That was it. I am not sure why the wrong one is the default. Anyway, thanks for that.

I noticed that when you use the AD2 Project Template to create a new project you have to change the output to the correct drum map.
 
But if you already have a project open instead, and use "Insert > Track Template > Soft Synth Track Templates > AD2 > AD2 Track.cwx, it outputs to the correct map automagically!!!

OldNick
 try https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013364/Setting-up-a-Drum-Map-for-Addictive-Drums-2-in-SONAR.
 
As I said, it worked for me, but now I can't get it to work again. know how you go.

Thank you for that information. It is most helpful. I followed those instructions substituting Sonar X3 for the relevant Sonar Platinum folders. Its now approaching midnight so I am not going to open up Sonar now but I am going to get stuck in tomorrow afternoon.
 
Also thanks for RSMCGuitar for his input.
 
I will say this about Sonar. Its a very powerful flexible program but you can lost in options within it. I was wondering why I had to double click to enter a note in the PRV with the Smart Tool or else use alt and click or use the draw note to enter a single note. It turns out you can enter a note in the PRV with a solitary mouse click but you have to flick your cursor up a little as you do it. Thats very unintuitive and I would have never have guessed that until I read it online. Also the grid resolution in the PRV is a nightmare to set up. I was trying to set the grid resolution to eight notes but it kept remaining at whole notes. Eventually I got it by constantly messing around with the Global Snap but it was totally unintuitive. This is the reason I get frustrated with Sonar sometimes. It has tremendous power but sometimes even doing simple things like setting a grid resolution is a pain in the butt! Rant over!

Stevethesearcher2015
Thank you for that information. It is most helpful. I followed those instructions substituting Sonar X3 for the relevant Sonar Platinum folders. Its now approaching midnight so I am not going to open up Sonar now but I am going to get stuck in tomorrow afternoon.
 

 
Well when you try it, if you have not already, have a quick read of the rest of the thread. There are a couple of gotchas that are brought to light. They just got me!

Open the drum map manager and make sure the routing in the AD2 Standard map is correct. My guess is the Out Port assignments are not going to AD2.

Here is the documentation for the Drum Map Manager http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=DrumEditor.04.html
 

abacab
If you have already following this setup:  https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013364/Setting-up-a-Drum-Map-for-Addictive-Drums-2-in-SONAR
 
Then insert the AD2 TRACK TEMPLATE like this into an open project:  "Insert > Track Template > Soft Synth Track Templates > AD2 > AD2 Track.cwx". 
Everything should fall right into place! 

K thanks, been there done that, still same result, so in any case, having done all these things, just to be certain, having done all above, if I now go into Piano Roll View, right click on piano keys I get a menu that comes up that allows me to assign names to piano keys, the default is diatonic, there's general midi drums, and many others, if a I chose one it assigns kit piece names to piano keys. (not in drum pain).
 
So are you all saying having done all the above I should now be seeing the AD2 choice coming up in the list of available note names assignable, such as diatonic 0-127, 1-128, General Midi, etc.... (and mapped to AD2)   


 

scook
Open the drum map manager and make sure the routing in the AD2 Standard map is correct. My guess is the Out Port assignments are not going to AD2.

K so in Drum map manager, are you saying the in the settings for DM-1 in the column "Out Port" should be listing Addictive drums the out port? 

scook
The Note pane keyboard does not change when using a drum map. The drum map uses the Drum pane above the Note pane in the PRV. "Show/Hide Drum Pane" is the first option in the PFV View menu. The only way the keyboard changes in the Note pane is if the plug-in supports a specific VST opcode, for example Session Drummer and BFD offer this type of support or an assignment is made with the Note Names dialog. The note Names dialog uses entries in the .Note Names section of Master.ins.

OK, well, that explains that, to bad I guess that's an AD2 deficiency, Ok so next issue that Im getting no audio, when I assign a AD2 map to drum pain, (send output to AD2 Standard). Just to say right clicking on piano key does have quite a lot naming options.
 

I am not sure why you would want to change the channel. AD2 works fine on channel 1 even though 10 is the GM standard for drums. This is true for every drum synth I have used.
 
To change multiple rows see http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=DrumEditor.05.html
 

I don't think drum maps work on "simple instrument tracks". You have to use them on "midi tracks".
 

scook
Yes, drum maps work on instrument tracks. I detailed how to apply a drum map in lucky number 13 above.

K thanks,
I got audio working by reassigning output columns, and also displaying kit piece in drum pane, now I got to read up on using drum pane, and what advantage it may have over regular PRV.
Cheers, Thanks again