afatica
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Addictive Drums Recording Audio
Hi all, I have recorded midi tracks with Addictive Drums, but I can't figure out how to record those midi tracks into an audio track. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Art
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/19 15:37:31
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You would have to bounce the MIDI tracks (to audio), to be able to access the audio files. I usually use separate out (mono) from AD2 mono out from each AD2 drum, to be able to process the tracks individually. Best of luck.
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/19 15:38:37
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You can also use CAL script, split notes to tracks.
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/19 15:39:39
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/19 15:48:53
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I never used the Freeze method, but it worked perfectly, thanks!!! Best, art
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/19 16:54:16
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OK, I did not realize that once I closed the file, I would no longer have the audio track from the frozen synth. What I really need is to have the midi from the Addictive Drums changed into an audio file that I can keep as audio. Again, any help here is appreciated. thanks, Art
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/19 16:57:12
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afatica. I agree with Zargg71, Bouncing the midi tracks to audio, I believe, is the best way. You can then be able to add FX to the drums when mixing. Try it and see if it works for you,
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/19 17:14:03
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File > Export, or go grab the .WAV file for the frozen synth track from the audio folder for the project (or Global audio folder if not using per-project audio folders).
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/19 17:30:36
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brundlefly File > or go grab the .WAV file for the frozen synth track from the audio folder for the project (or Global audio folder if not using per-project audio folders).
Hey thanks! I didn't know you could do this. I almost always freeze AD2 or SSD Superior/EZDrummer when mixing.
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/19 18:20:05
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I did try to bounce the tracks, it didn't work. Now I am thinking that I make to midi tracks as a stereo file, maybe I didn't have the settings correct when trying to bounce because it did not work at all. If I freeze the tracks, woyld I be able to just copy the audio track that was bounced and copy and paste it to a different audio track? Might that work?
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 05:12:25
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Where would you find this?
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 05:15:35
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I tried bouncing the track but it doesn't work for some reason. I have the AD midi recorded in stereo, I did not set up separate tracks for each drum. Not sure what to do. Thanks, Art
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 12:04:21
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Please do take this the wrong way but you may need to go back to the basic tutorials on MIDI and what it means to get audio out from MIDI. Also, you must have done something wrong with your freeze. A frozen track stays frozen and is available after you close and open a project. Dumb question but did you unfreeze the track before you closed the project?
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 12:17:29
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Actually afatica is correct. There is no place on the web that describes how to simply record addictive drums (to an audio track). I know it's basic routing issues, but for some reason it's not intuitive with sonar. It's easy to get addictive drums going, and sounding through the master bus, but actually recording it is more fuzzy. There's the mysterious transient button, for instance.
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 12:41:01
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 12:48:22
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eph221 There is no place on the web that describes how to simply record addictive drums (to an audio track).
There's no such description (excluding workarounds), because you don't "record" soft synth output in SONAR. You can freeze, bounce or export to render output to an audio file much faster than real-time recording. If any of those don't work, that problem (most likely procedural) can be solved given sufficient detail on what action is being taken, and what the result is. Real-time recording of soft synth output as a SONAR feature is coming: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Track-to-Track-Routing-and-other-mindless-musings-m3256453.aspx In the mean time, there are workarounds to record soft synth output in real time, but in this case, freeze, bounce or export should take care of the need.
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 12:55:50
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Thanks Brundlefly, Things don't need to be complex.. Remember Funny sells, clever doesn't.
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 14:01:37
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I will try again today. Bouncing seems to be the most strait forward way, but in the large box where it says source, there is nothing to choose from, so it will not let me Bounce. I did click on the Export in the File menu, but the Export option was grayed out so I couldn't do that. Once I figure this out, I am going to write it down, I love the way the Addictive Drums sound. This is the first time for me using soft synth drums, and I know there is a way.... Thanks, Art
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 14:06:55
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 15:37:30
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Thanks Mesh, and all others who have lent their assistance here. I am so focused on writing and recording right now that the technical aspects of Sonar are kind of slowing the flow. Thanks again, Art
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 15:45:38
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afatica Thanks Mesh, and all others who have lent their assistance here. I am so focused on writing and recording right now that the technical aspects of Sonar are kind of slowing the flow. Thanks again, Art
You're most welcome Art. Yes, there's a bit of a learning curve using Sonar and I for one have been managing to get by with just the basics. Also, check out Youtube for tons of tutorials.......somebody else also would've gone through a similar situation. Please post back on how it went with bouncing/freezing.
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 15:56:01
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For limited size clip AD2 has audio recorder function, drag and drop "wave" at bottom left in AD2 into Sonar track window, after playing/recording it in AD2 (solo individual kit piece/s as desired), but bounce to tracks is simplest/quickest way. I guess you could route a sub-mix analog output back to an analog input, unmonitored (avoid echoed feedback), if you want to go through such an effort, but why not just bounce to track.
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/20 16:03:00
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Yes there is a fair bit to take on board and it's difficult to recommend any specific advice because we don't know what you want out of this. As an example, is this the final version of your drums for use in a song or do you just want a stereo wav for use elsewhere? Are you happy with the processing you've applied or do you intend to add anything like EQ, compression, reverb etc? Let us know the answers to these questions and we can offer more targeted advice
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/21 00:37:28
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So I froze the track, then I copied the audio file from that bounced track onto another audio track. From there I exported it as a wav file and then imported it back into the original project. I know it sounds like a lot of steps, but it did work and now I can move forward with the project. Thanks to all for your help, it's really great to have a community to reach out to. Best, Art
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/21 02:17:20
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I'm curious why you needed the audio at all? I leave drum tracks as midi unless I want to do something silly with a specific piece of kit, and even then I leave the rest as midi. I'm wondering if I'm missing out on something good?
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/21 03:31:47
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I don't think you're missing anything Kevin, I leave my drums as midi permanently.
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/21 09:25:55
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I also don't know that you are missing something. It is perhaps habit that I have audio tracks to mix down. Your way is probably an easier way, I just like having all the audio files to work with. Perhaps I need to re-evaluate my habits. Best, art
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/21 18:38:11
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Nothing wrong with freezing synth tracks! Especially for older systems where resources can run low. Or for archival purposes; e.g., if the plugin used for whatever reason isn't available in the future (something I should do more). FWIW, when I freeze I often archive and hide the original synth track so it's no longer using resources. Or sometimes I'll take that frozen audio, copy the clip to a new audio track, and then mess with it from there. All kinds of possibilities...
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/21 19:12:06
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Re: Addictive Drums Recording Audio
2015/07/22 01:15:15
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stevec Nothing wrong with freezing synth tracks! Especially for older systems where resources can run low. Or for archival purposes; e.g., if the plugin used for whatever reason isn't available in the future (something I should do more). FWIW, when I freeze I often archive and hide the original synth track so it's no longer using resources. Or sometimes I'll take that frozen audio, copy the clip to a new audio track, and then mess with it from there. All kinds of possibilities...
Doh! That makes a heck of a lot of sense. I can also see doing it when you want to send the project out for mixing or mastering by someone else. Thanks!
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