Addictive Drums

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2014/11/11 01:50:40 (permalink)

Addictive Drums

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I can't seem to get addictive drums to work in sonar x2 (no sound) and that i can only add it to an audio track and not a midi track, i used to have this working till i cleaned my computer to send it back for repairs and i had a work around but cant remember, anyone able to help?
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    BJN
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/11 07:43:54 (permalink)
    You might try just seecting first midi track in dialogue box and install an instance of it. try clicking on the echo listen.
    If that doesn't work I'd reistall AD as it sounds like something got moved or deleted.
     

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/11 08:53:43 (permalink)
    Your discription of "inserting it to an audio track " has me pondering if you are using it correctly. 
    You insert soft synths and they will create there own track. Make sure you choose the settings you want in the insert dialog box. There are a few choices to be made. 
     
    Then it's a matter of pointing any midi tracks output at that synth. 
    When you open the AD GUI and hit a drum do you hear anything? 
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/11 10:42:04 (permalink)
    Insert it as a soft synth with multiple outs, so you can have each drum outputting on its own 'audio' track.
     
    FYI: if your Pc was cleaned and serviced, as you put it, I hope you backed it up before having someone work on it. Who knows what they 'cleaned, AKA deleted and who knows what they did to your pc.
     
    If I was you, I would do clean installs of all your important programs, including soft synths if they are acting funny after a person "cleaned" your PC.
     
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/11 12:40:17 (permalink)
    Insert soft synth in the synth rack as CJ pointed out.
     
    You will need to output your midi track to AD.
     
    I don't think all of AD's outputs are necessary. (They are listed as inputs on the audio tracks)
    I use only the mono tracks for the individual pieces and stereo tracks for the room, overheads and FX.
     
    It depends on what your after from there. I don't use AD's effects and just insert the effect I want in the tracks.

    If your still having trouble with hearing the drums, make sure the arrows are on in the bottom of the AD UI next to each fader.

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/11 13:04:31 (permalink)
    You will need to output your midi track to AD.
     
    You do not have to output any midi tracks to AD. When you use the 'insert soft synth' function, it configures all outs and ins for you. If you change anything, it will screw you up.
     
    IF you want to have all drums outputting to different audio tracks, you need to select multiple outs. I*f you do not, then all drums will be outputting on one audio track and you wont be able to use the sonar faders and effects to adjust individual drums
     
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/11 13:05:04 (permalink)
    You will need to output your midi track to AD.
     
    You do not have to output any midi tracks to AD. When you use the 'insert soft synth' function, it configures all outs and ins for you. If you change anything, it will screw you up.
     
    IF you want to have all drums outputting to different audio tracks, you need to select multiple outs. I*f you do not, then all drums will be outputting on one audio track and you wont be able to use the sonar faders and effects to adjust individual drums
     
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/11 16:34:33 (permalink)
    So the midi track magically outputs to AD?  I was unaware inserting a soft synth into the synth rack automatically outputted midi tracks to it. When did this start happening?

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/11 21:00:49 (permalink)
    Me too? I've been doing wrong for 10 years ? 
    You can use the simple instrument track or what ever it's called, your choice,  but lot of us still point a nice fresh shiny new midi track output at what ever soft synth we want it to trigger. 
    That's why I said what I said in my post,,, there are options, and if you don't understand those options, read the help files or ask here.. 
     

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/11 23:41:41 (permalink)
    The insert soft synth has been around since at least X1. The true power of it is the options available in the insert dialog box. Very flexible.

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/12 10:50:42 (permalink)
    If you choose the option to add a MIDI track as well in the pop up dialog box then it will route THAT MIDI track to the softsynth you inserted.  if your MIDI track is added separately from that dialog box at the time of the softsynth insertion, then you have to set the output of the MIDI track to the softsynth manually.

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/12 14:37:36 (permalink)
    I was unaware of that option. TBH, I haven't seem that dialog box in a while since I have templates for most everything.  The essential truth is, you have to route the midi track. Good to know it's in the dialog box though.

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/12 15:00:11 (permalink)
    IIRC, I've never set the output of a MIDI track anywhere when inserting AD or any other soft synths. As long as I remember (since SONAR 4 or longer??) "Insert soft synth" command has created all the MIDI and audio tracks automatically, either all outputs or only one.
    Then again, I've always started from scratch, I've never had the MIDI ready waiting for the appropriate synth.

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/12 15:01:11 (permalink)
    IIRC, I've never set the output of a MIDI track anywhere when inserting AD or any other soft synths. As long as I remember (since SONAR 4 or longer??) "Insert soft synth" command has created all the MIDI and audio tracks automatically, either all outputs or only one.
    Then again, I've always started from scratch, I've never had the MIDI ready waiting for the appropriate synth.

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/14 14:44:35 (permalink)
    This is confusing because of a lot of replies haha!
     
    What Beagle has mentioned, sounds like something similar i did before!
     
    Because i had the midi drum track on the midi channel and i had addictive drums running on a audio channel, because it would not let me add addictive drums to the midi channel for some reason! But i just couldn't remember how i did it.
     
    Just a quick note about my PC, i cleaned it to factory standard so i could send it back to the original retailers where it came from (pc specialist) due to hardware malfunctions! so i didn't let a random person do it :)
     
    When i got it back i just installed addictive drums and sonar x2 like i did before so nothing different!
     
    Thanks for the replies guys! It's very nice to know people are keen on helping and replying on a forum like this! :)
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/17 00:50:57 (permalink)
    Could i get a response please of how to do this?
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/17 02:04:01 (permalink)
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2899224
     
    That post has a lot in it which is helpful to using AD in SONAR.

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/19 09:41:38 (permalink)
    Up top of page in Sonar click INSERT and choose SOFT SYNTH , drop down list, select Addictive Drums.
    Dialogue box opens, here you can choose first midi track, separate tracks for each drum instrument or a stereo only output or both. 
    Open AD
    Select BEATS tab 
    Click on TEMPO and SYNC buttons (lights up) so AD is working with Sonar tempo and starts when Sonar starts to play or record.
    Or start AD play button.
     
    (I personally output only a stereo master into Sonar for writing or creating a tune.
    Once the tracking is done you can reinstall another instance of AD this time each drum instrument having its own track in Sonar etc.for mix down. Just drag the original midi file you compile down to the new instance of AD on its midi track.)
     

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/24 11:22:23 (permalink)
    Ok i still can't get this to work or figure it it, why 't addictive drums just be a simple midi track?
     
    I have unistalled x2 and downloaded the trail for x3 now to see if that works, and if i get it working fine i may upgrade. But still can't get it to work and in my outputs in preferences it says ASIO output not connected?
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/24 15:31:08 (permalink)
    AD uses a simple MIDI track, there must be something else going on  that we're not aware of, or that you've not told us about.
     
    uninstalling and reinstalling is very likely NOT going to solve this problem.
     
    ASIO output not connected - there is something we didn't know about!  I also don't see where you told us what soundcard you're using?

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/30 17:05:15 (permalink)
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    AD uses a simple MIDI track, there must be something else going on  that we're not aware of, or that you've not told us about.
     
    uninstalling and reinstalling is very likely NOT going to solve this problem.
     
    ASIO output not connected - there is something we didn't know about!  I also don't see where you told us what soundcard you're using?


    Hello i believe its just Realtek High definition audio, it is just a standard one
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/30 18:33:27 (permalink)
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    So the midi track magically outputs to AD?  I was unaware inserting a soft synth into the synth rack automatically outputted midi tracks to it. When did this start happening?


    In Sonar 1 (not X1).  Well, technically that was pre-AD and pre-synthrack & pre-simple instrument track, but the insert synth dialog box has always created one midi input to a softsynth's output.  In Sonar 6 or 7 you could select multiple midi tracks and assign the 1st one and the rest would follow 2-8.  Spectrasonics had a vid about that nifty feature but I think that died with X1.  
     
    The "simple instrument track" option is a great idea, but I don't think it's ever worth it with a multitimbral instrument, and frankly it confuses a lot of people.
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/30 19:46:07 (permalink)
    Any other programs just as good as Sonar i could move on to? looks like sonar will just not work with addictive drums...
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/30 19:47:34 (permalink)
    It just says as well input and output not connected getting fed up with this 
     
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/30 19:49:53 (permalink)
    Ok just got it working nevermind haha!
     
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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/30 19:50:56 (permalink)
    Please check out this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2899224
     
    SONAR does work with AD, and I am not clear with the comment of "looks like sonar will just not work with addictive drums" comes from. I am going to test AD in X2, but know others owned AD before X3 came out.
     
    Edit: I just opened the X3 track template from the above link in X2 (had to navigate to the X3 directory to insert it), but X2 plays AD as expected. Please look at the original post in that thread and walk through the steps of it. If AD is not working in X2, there is another part of your routing setup that needs adjusting.
     
    Edit 2: I just saw you got it working, so disregard this post, although the link above may still be helpful

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    Re: Addictive Drums 2014/11/30 20:03:00 (permalink)
    Thanks for your kind comments and advice, and yes i have got it working now, for some reason like i said the ASIO was not connect for some reason, so i changed this to WASAPI and then i had to change the master output to my speakers. Which i thought i did last time when i was changing all this stuff but it didn't work then. 
     
    I still have to put Addictive drums onto the audio track and place the midi audio onto the midi track
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