Adding sustain to Midi file.

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2015/06/22 22:18:22 (permalink)

Adding sustain to Midi file.

Hi,
 
I'm struggling a lot. I'm trying to add sustain to a midi files. I found a plugin called sustainfix from tencrazy.com. And it added sustain but the sustain lasts way too long.
 
So what I'm basically looking for is a way to add sustain to a midi track and to be able to choose how fast the sustain fades away. Is it possible?
 
Thanks for any help. I have a lot of midi files. I recorded them with my keyboard but I didn't record the sustain. The sustain I used is the same for all notes. I have a VST I'll use to record the midi files, Kontakt 5 and galaxy vintage D as piano. I was looking if I could add the sustain effect there too but haven't found out how either.
 
 
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    Re: Adding sustain to Midi file. 2015/06/22 23:23:18 (permalink)
    MrSustain
    Hi,
     
    I'm struggling a lot. I'm trying to add sustain to a midi files. I found a plugin called sustainfix from tencrazy.com. And it added sustain but the sustain lasts way too long.
     
    So what I'm basically looking for is a way to add sustain to a midi track and to be able to choose how fast the sustain fades away. Is it possible?
     
    Thanks for any help. I have a lot of midi files. I recorded them with my keyboard but I didn't record the sustain. The sustain I used is the same for all notes. I have a VST I'll use to record the midi files, Kontakt 5 and galaxy vintage D as piano. I was looking if I could add the sustain effect there too but haven't found out how either.
     
     


    Hi Mike-


    There aren't really degrees of "sustain" in a MIDI context. A MIDI sustain pedal, for example, is either up or down, off or on and typically sends CC #64.  A value under 64 is off; anything over 64 is on. In other words, it's a switch. I'm not sure what you mean by "how fast the sustain fades away" if you're talking about MIDI sustain. There's no such thing as "fading" a MIDI sustain; either the notes are being held or not. 
     
    Oh, and welcome to the forum!
     
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    post edited by Susan G - 2015/06/22 23:54:56

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    Re: Adding sustain to Midi file. 2015/06/23 00:13:10 (permalink)
    Hi Mike-
     
    I replied to you, but my post has disappeared. If it doesn't show up soon, I'll repost.
     
    -Susan
     
    [Edit: I was notified that it was restored from the recycle bin...]
    post edited by Susan G - 2015/06/23 00:33:17

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    Re: Adding sustain to Midi file. 2015/06/23 00:22:16 (permalink)
    Some synths respond to controller 72 which is release time. Have you tried this?
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    Re: Adding sustain to Midi file. 2015/06/23 00:23:15 (permalink)
    Off-topic, but that happened to me 20 mins ago in another thread.

    On-topic, have you considered running the MIDI through a vst (Kontakt) and using audio effects?

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    Re: Adding sustain to Midi file. 2015/06/23 00:26:24 (permalink)
    Controller 72 (release time) sorry I thought my other post disappeared..
    post edited by promidi - 2015/06/23 00:34:32
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    Re: Adding sustain to Midi file. 2015/06/23 00:31:51 (permalink)
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    Controller 72 (release time) sorry I thought my other post disappeared..

    There's a lot of that going around!
     
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    Re: Adding sustain to Midi file. 2015/06/23 01:20:36 (permalink)
    Thanks to all for helping. The release time did the trick!
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    Re: Adding sustain to Midi file. 2015/06/23 12:28:53 (permalink)
    It may be well known to others ...but incase you don't know MrSustain ...
     
    I found a way to toggle sustain, without a pedal, from the PRV  Controller Pane the other day ...
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3236629
     
    Further controls too ... but not 72.
     
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    Re: Adding sustain to Midi file. 2015/06/23 15:30:14 (permalink)
    The release time referred to is the release time of an ADSR or similar envelope generator controlling the volume envelope - how long a sound takes to fade once the key is released. On some synths the release time can be controlled using MIDI CC 72. On others it's a different controller, and on some you have to turn the relevant knob yourself. 

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