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Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading
I think I first noticed this in SONAR X2, but didn't have time to investigate further. I did some testing today and created this short video to show the effects. Basically I go from ~55% CPU to ~90% CPU when aim assist is on. A secondary find is by minimizing SONAR so I only see my desktop CPU loading drops again a significant amount (probably expected). I initially thought it must by video card related as I'm using 3 monitors, 2 of which are the same signal on an active splitter, so I can have a monitor feed in my drum room. After reducing my video down to low resolution, 1 monitor and using the VGA out instead of HDMI, there was no noticeable difference.
post edited by martinv - March 05, 14 7:06 PM
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 04, 14 9:17 PM
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 04, 14 9:22 PM
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Sorry, I thought you were talking to the OP and didn't check into your link. Moderators feel free to delete or move this.
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 04, 14 9:23 PM
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No I think the thread is valid. Maybe you should report this to cakewalk problem reporter as I'm not sure we covered every angle (we repro'd it in other ways), point them to your vid I suggest and this thread I suggest and let us know what they say. http://www.cakewalk.com/support/contact/problemreport.aspx Could you give us an issue number? Thanks...
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 04, 14 10:23 PM
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CWBRN-24525 - Report Details
Product: SONAR Producer
Version: X3a
Status: New
Summary: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading
Description: 1. Open SONAR
2. Create a new project using the template "24 Track Audio"
3. "Collapse" the Console, "Inspector", and "Browser"
4. Open Windows "Task Manager" and view "CPU Usage" in the "Performance" tab.
5. Move mouse cursor into the track viewing area with the "Aim Assist" enabled.
Expected Results: CPU usage probably shouldn't jump to such extreme amounts while moving the "Aim Assist" line. On my PC, CPU usage moves from 2% with
Actual Results: On my PC, CPU usage moves from 2% with "Aim Assist" stationary, up to 50% when moving the "Aim Assist" line. If I have a real project with audio tracks, etc. I go from ~50% to 100% CPU usage and get increased audio crackling.
Provided Specs: Windows 7 Professional (Service Pack 1) 64-bit, 6.1, build: 7601 (x64) HP Compaq dc7800 Convertible Minitower, Hewlett-Packard. CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz. RAM:4015 MB total. NVIDIA Geforce 210
Audio 1: Focusrite
Audio 2: Saffire Pro 40
Driver Mode: ASIO
Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
Reproducibility: Reproducible
Report Submitted: I also sent them a link to the video and this thread.
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 04, 14 10:26 PM
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While submitting the report, I did notice the CPU loading appears to be affected by the amount of visible area of the track view. This is why I suggested step 3 "Collapse" the Console, "Inspector", and "Browser" in the report as the effect is more apparent.
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 05, 14 6:32 AM
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That other thread was pretty long though, and not sure if the Aim Assist was included with any report (I never chimed in until the end of it). Thank you for taking the time to submit this.
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 05, 14 7:11 AM
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 24, 14 5:57 PM
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☼ Best Answerby martinv March 24, 14 11:38 PM
I think this should be resolved now in X3E if you wouldn't mind checking?
Thanks...
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 24, 14 6:33 PM
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☄ Helpfulby martinv March 24, 14 11:37 PM
In case the OP doesn't chime in, I have verified this resolved in X3e.
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 24, 14 11:39 PM
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mettelus
In case the OP doesn't chime in, I have verified this resolved in X3e.
It does appear to be resolved! I am very happy to see take time away from developing bells and whistles to fix these things.
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 25, 14 12:52 AM
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Brilliant! 
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 25, 14 12:57 AM
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Bathroom wall saying:
We aim to please.
You aim too please
Anytime I hear 'aim' I think of that saying. :-D
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 25, 14 2:27 PM
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Guitarmech111
Bathroom wall saying:
We aim to please.
You aim too please
Anytime I hear 'aim' I think of that saying. :-D
I've been in that bathroom. Many times. Unfortunately half of the patrons never read the sign. 
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 25, 14 4:52 PM
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Whoa! This is extremely helpful information! I only use Aim Assist for specific jobs (such as splitting or pasting audio clips), but now I will treat it like the oven: I will be sure to turn it off when I'm done. Thanks.
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 25, 14 4:55 PM
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konradh
Whoa! This is extremely helpful information! I only use Aim Assist for specific jobs (such as splitting or pasting audio clips), but now I will treat it like the oven: I will be sure to turn it off when I'm done. Thanks.
Konrad it's fixed in X3E. No longer an issue according to OP. Although I notice in your footer you are running X3D, if so I would definitely upgrade to X3E. I can't imagine it taking up much processing power now (Just a guess, but I suspect in X3D the refresh rate was too high or useless code was being called). Cheers...
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 25, 14 8:00 PM
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This is my real concern with bubbling up old threads to close them. People seeing them for the first time assume it is a "new found" issue rather than knowing it is fixed. I realize the closure they provide, but I have already seen a few posts saying they thought these were created by X3e. When bubbling these up, please ask the OP to edit the title so it is more apparent that it is resolved with X3e (not created by it).
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 25, 14 8:05 PM
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I think you just did it :). Group effort guys...
BTW the OP has marked this thread answered.
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 25, 14 8:10 PM
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LOL, but I cannot hit every one of them :) After I posted that I realized I did not want you to take that the wrong way. You have done a phenomenal job "herding cats" as it were, and it is most appreciated (both you and Jlien X have gone "above and beyond" to compile useful information for the bakers).
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Re: Aim Assist causes significant additional CPU loading!
March 25, 14 8:14 PM
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No problems at all. Anyway it's good news thread ... yee haw :). Cheers...
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