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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 15:53:32 (permalink)
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Check the Akai VIP user map Forum at Akai. People share Maps they have made.
http://community.akaipro.com/akai_professional/topics/advance-vip-plugin-map-thread-share-yours-here


Thanks. I will figure it out with the heko of you guys
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 17:03:26 (permalink)
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Check the Akai VIP user map Forum at Akai. People share Maps they have made.
http://community.akaipro.com/akai_professional/topics/advance-vip-plugin-map-thread-share-yours-here




I just noticed that their are two pages in that link.  I went back to the first page and found this:


partial maps for:
    XLNAudio's Addictive Drums 2
    Garritan's Aria Player
    Cakewalk Sonar's Dimension Pro
    Cakewalk Sonar's Rapture


https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7n5rq2e2y9l11vl/AAAUUBGu-Z-k4xkpJiMlvBRca?dl=0
 
According to the OP:

'Partial' here means:

    Just the catalogues are mapped and tagged; no controls
    In some cases, I didn't do the whole catalogue -- for example, I didn't do drum-kits in Dimension Pro since I generally use AD2. I also didn't catalogue libraries I don't have -- for instance, I don't have all of AD2 or Garritan. But I ensured that what I had was more done than not-done.


So far I have tried Dim Pro map, with success, and it appears to have most of the first 24 factory banks, but not the expansion packs.  The AD2 map has some kits that I have installed, including the Pop, Rock, and Studio.
 
But no luck getting VIP to recognize the "Rapture.vip" file, even though I copied it to the same path as Dim Pro and AD2 user maps.

Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-09; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2  Other: Akai VIP; AIR AIEP 3; BIAB; Ignite; Iris 2; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; VocalizerPro; Tracktion Waveform OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410;  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Mackie 1202
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 17:39:51 (permalink)
I'm not clicking through thousands of presets. It seems to seem like it is importing map but nothing shows up.  There has to be a simple fix
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 17:47:27 (permalink)
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I'm not clicking through thousands of presets. It seems to seem like it is importing map but nothing shows up.  There has to be a simple fix




Which map are you referring to?

Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-09; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2  Other: Akai VIP; AIR AIEP 3; BIAB; Ignite; Iris 2; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; VocalizerPro; Tracktion Waveform OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410;  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Mackie 1202
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 17:50:00 (permalink)
PS- thank you all for the help.  I am just frustrated by process so far.  
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 17:53:08 (permalink)
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I'm not clicking through thousands of presets. It seems to seem like it is importing map but nothing shows up.  There has to be a simple fix




Which map are you referring to?


sampletank 3.  with the imported expansions , I believe it is over 4000 presets. I can deal with it not  reading expansions but odd that it is not working.  The one thing I think may be a factor is I changed default location of maps?  Do ypou think that could be issue.  The air ones installed fine and work and oddly enough a couple of cakewalk effects like PX64 worked just fine
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 18:16:26 (permalink)
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I'm not clicking through thousands of presets. It seems to seem like it is importing map but nothing shows up.  There has to be a simple fix




Which map are you referring to?


sampletank 3.  with the imported expansions , I believe it is over 4000 presets. I can deal with it not  reading expansions but odd that it is not working.  The one thing I think may be a factor is I changed default location of maps?  Do ypou think that could be issue.  The air ones installed fine and work and oddly enough a couple of cakewalk effects like PX64 worked just fine




That's odd.  SampleTank 3 was able to successfully import all presets on my first VST scan.
 
I'm looking at 4,023 ST3 patches in VIP right now.  And the instruments seem to all be well tagged.
 
Check to see if you have the "SampleTank 3.vip" in your "C:\ProgramData\VIP\pluginmaps" folder.  Should be 12,343 KB in size.
 
If so, make sure the map is selected in VIP > Settings > Plugin Manager.  The map box in the far right column should be highlighted.  If no, then check it, and click OK.  You should get a prompt "do you want to import this map?".  Answer yes.

Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-09; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2  Other: Akai VIP; AIR AIEP 3; BIAB; Ignite; Iris 2; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; VocalizerPro; Tracktion Waveform OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410;  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Mackie 1202
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 18:20:26 (permalink)
will try again.  Thanks for your patience
 
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 18:25:02 (permalink)
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will try again.  Thanks for your patience
 




Keep trying.  I'm looking at over 20,000+ patches listed in VIP today, and SynthMaster One is the only one I had to click through.  Then I found a map for it on the forum linked by Bass Daddy, LOL!
 
If I can't find a map for Rapture or Z3TA+2 that works, I may take a swing at creating them.  Might take a bit of time though.
 
I would also like to add the expansion packs to the Dim Pro map. 

Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-09; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2  Other: Akai VIP; AIR AIEP 3; BIAB; Ignite; Iris 2; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; VocalizerPro; Tracktion Waveform OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410;  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Mackie 1202
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/11 18:38:38 (permalink)
Once I figure thinbgs out, i would like to add some too.  My day is full of trying to finish up a song i did completely in studio one prime for my students to prove a decent beat is possible using just Presence lol
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/12 16:25:55 (permalink)
You guys made me wonder how many patches I had. Seems it's up to 51,400. Lol, I had no idea.

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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/12 17:08:46 (permalink)
You DA MAN, BD!!! I'm only up to 22,000+ and still counting. 
 
I found VIP patch maps for Dimension Pro, Rapture, Rapture Session, and Z3TA+2 that work!!!
 
The Dimension Pro map even has the guitar and bass patches from the expansion packs, so that helps.  May take a crack at adding the rest.
 
Rapture doesn't seem to have the expansions mapped, they are some of my favorites, so that may have to move up my priority list...

Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-09; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2  Other: Akai VIP; AIR AIEP 3; BIAB; Ignite; Iris 2; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; VocalizerPro; Tracktion Waveform OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410;  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Mackie 1202
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/12 17:24:21 (permalink)
Here's the latest dropbox link (the earlier one was dead due to a Dropbox policy change) from the VIP patch map sharing thread over at the Akai forums.  The Akai forum user who contributed these maps is Ad de Roo. 
 
I am only re-sharing this here because the Akai sharing thread takes a while to sort through, and these contain Cakewalk related maps.
 
The maps I mentioned above can all be found here >> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n2job5tboz...

Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-09; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2  Other: Akai VIP; AIR AIEP 3; BIAB; Ignite; Iris 2; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; VocalizerPro; Tracktion Waveform OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410;  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Mackie 1202
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/12 19:27:25 (permalink)
Do these go into VIP\pluginmaps or somewhere else?
 
The plugins with the download symbol - does that mean that there's a download patch online or that VIP can download from the plugin?  and either way where does the VIP go or get placed when downloaded.  Don't know if this is working right on my system.

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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/12 20:02:18 (permalink)
The factory pluginmaps go in the main default path.  You shouldn't have to touch these.  If you see a download symbol in the plugin manager, you can grab a factory pluginmap if one is available, and not yet downloaded.  If it's already been downloaded, you just need to click the map box to enable it.
 
The link to the Dropbox repository that I posted earlier contains user pluginmaps, and they go in the path that you assigned as "User Map Folder" in plugin manager.  Mine is set to "C:\Users\"username"\Documents\VIP\User maps.
 
The map files have .vip extensions and you just copy them to the user map folder.  I found that by shutting down VIP, copying the file, starting VIP, going to the plugin manager, and enabling the newly found map works well.
 
When you click OK to leave plugin manager, you will get prompted to import the new map.  Say yes.  The patches will be imported.

Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-09; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2  Other: Akai VIP; AIR AIEP 3; BIAB; Ignite; Iris 2; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; VocalizerPro; Tracktion Waveform OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410;  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Mackie 1202
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/12 23:46:18 (permalink)
For some reason when i try to download maps using the pluin manager, the orange circle appears to be complete but there is never an option to check a map.  i did download the dimension and aas player maps from dropbox and they worked
 
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/13 00:23:48 (permalink)
VIP should add Sound Preview like NI Kontrol does. That would be lovely.

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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/13 01:27:47 (permalink)
Toontrack has it in all their instruments and it should be an industry standard.

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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/13 23:33:49 (permalink)
I think i found the issue.  This is exactly what is happening to me.  I my need to reinstall.  kind of silly for them to have the option to change locations if it won't work if you do.
 
http://community.akaipro....port-plugin-map-option
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/13 23:51:09 (permalink)
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I think i found the issue.  This is exactly what is happening to me.  I my need to reinstall.  kind of silly for them to have the option to change locations if it won't work if you do.
 
http://community.akaipro....port-plugin-map-option




Sorry, the link doesn't clarify things.
I get a lot of those downloading circle but the maps never download.
Is the issue that if you specify a different folder for your user maps that the change breaks the app?

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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/14 00:11:52 (permalink)
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I think i found the issue.  This is exactly what is happening to me.  I my need to reinstall.  kind of silly for them to have the option to change locations if it won't work if you do.
 
http://community.akaipro....port-plugin-map-option




Sorry, the link doesn't clarify things.
I get a lot of those downloading circle but the maps never download.
Is the issue that if you specify a different folder for your user maps that the change breaks the app?


sorry about that.  i found a similar link with exact same image but it was not this link.  i saw image and thought it was the same.  the other link explained that for some reason if you change map location during installation the ability to import maps in his way seems to break.  i will find right link and repost
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/14 03:36:11 (permalink)
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/14 09:12:08 (permalink)
FINALLY!
Uninstalled VIP3Plus-PC then reinstalled, went with the default location for libraries and NOW it's working as it's supposed to!
 
Clicking on the download icon not only downloads the map but also selects the instrument/fx for use.
Then when I close the mapper the affected plugin maps are imported and show up properly.
So it took me 3 installs -
1st - made mistake of unsellecting libraries bundled with VIP which uninstalled the already installed ones from my system.
2nd - no problems reinstalling but maps were not importing properly
3rd - everything looks like its working OK. Maps that weren't loading or coming up with everything as 'default' are not loading properly.  EG - FabFilter, AAS synths (Tassman 1044 patches!), Omnisphere, etc.



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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/14 13:22:54 (permalink)
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FINALLY!
Uninstalled VIP3Plus-PC then reinstalled, went with the default location for libraries and NOW it's working as it's supposed to!
 
Clicking on the download icon not only downloads the map but also selects the instrument/fx for use.
Then when I close the mapper the affected plugin maps are imported and show up properly.
So it took me 3 installs -
1st - made mistake of unsellecting libraries bundled with VIP which uninstalled the already installed ones from my system.
2nd - no problems reinstalling but maps were not importing properly
3rd - everything looks like its working OK. Maps that weren't loading or coming up with everything as 'default' are not loading properly.  EG - FabFilter, AAS synths (Tassman 1044 patches!), Omnisphere, etc.






Third time is a charm, eh?  Glad you got it working!  I think I may have made the same first mistake as you, by unselecting the bundled AIR instruments in the VIP installer, since I already had the entire AIR instrument bundle installed.
 
That seemed to break my same existing installed AIR instruments, where the libraries were suddenly no longer found.  Had to reinstall those instruments to link everything back up.
 
Lesson learned, take the defaults except for specifying the desired plugin dll paths.  If you decide to move anything afterwards, use directory junctions, so that the system thinks everything is in the original paths.
 
Regarding the maps that aren't coming up, if a plugin only shows up with 1 "default" preset, it is either missing a pluginmap, or the existing one doesn't jive with that version of the plugin.
 
I ran into that with a couple of Cakewalk synths, and after locating some working pluginmaps for them, all is good.
 
For example, one thing that can throw off VIP is if the plugin developer uses the same ID for two different versions of a plug, and the patch format is slightly different, as is the case with z3ta+ and Z3TA+2.  The factory pluginmap shows up as selected for Z3TA+2, but it is actually for version 1, and the patches will not load.  However a freely available user pluginmap corrects that problem. 

Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-09; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2  Other: Akai VIP; AIR AIEP 3; BIAB; Ignite; Iris 2; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; VocalizerPro; Tracktion Waveform OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410;  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Mackie 1202
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/14 15:24:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/10/14 15:41:43
You guys are awesome. You are adding to the knowledge base on this at light speed. Here is a very good video on importing patches. Remember on lower right of screen there is a gear icon. Click on and disable allow duplicate patches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7hEt5R_K7Y

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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/14 15:37:14 (permalink)
File this one away.  Also covers how to tag your patches...
 
VIP - How to Build a Plugin Map
http://www.akaipro.com/su...-to-build-a-plugin-map

Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-09; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2  Other: Akai VIP; AIR AIEP 3; BIAB; Ignite; Iris 2; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; VocalizerPro; Tracktion Waveform OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410;  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Mackie 1202
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/14 15:52:42 (permalink)
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You guys are awesome. You are adding to the knowledge base on this at light speed. Here is a very good video on importing patches. Remember on lower right of screen there is a gear icon. Click on and disable allow duplicate patches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7hEt5R_K7Y




^^^ Good info here on adding expansions!
 
Encountered this when adding Tapestry for Loom.  Even with auto tagging enabled, ended up without any tags for that one, because all patches are in one level, instead of being sub-divided by leads, pads, basses, etc.
 
Simple solution, create a new tag in the expansion category named "Tapestry", and tag them all with that. 
 
Cheers! 

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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/14 16:34:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/10/14 21:59:33
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File this one away.  Also covers how to tag your patches...
 
VIP - How to Build a Plugin Map
http://www.akaipro.com/su...-to-build-a-plugin-map


This is a very good tutorial on this. This type of stuff was not around until very recently. It doesn't seem it could be possible but there was very little available.

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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/16 00:12:15 (permalink)
Reinstalling fixed my problem.  Now to start adding expansions.  i have barely used actual keyboard lol.  I really need to dive into manual.  I find the drum pads not functional so far.  i would think they would default to c1 or c3 like most controller keyboards. thanks for all the help so far!
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Re: Alesis VX49 Keyboard 2017/10/16 01:01:14 (permalink)
arrrgh.  spoke to soon.  auto import doesn't seem to do a thing.  i will rest and try again
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