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All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
What have I done wrong? Only one of my tracks shows all the clips in gray and also I can not edit them (though I can move the notes within PRV).  However Clip Lock Position/Data are disabled for these clips. Can anyone tell me how to reverse it?
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/04 22:14:33
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Select it the hit the K key?
Mute / Unmute
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/04 22:24:25
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Select it the hit the K key?
Mute / Unmute
No, they are not muted.  I just can't edit these clips on track view...
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/04 22:30:00
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What do you mean by "edit"? Move them? Enable the Inline PRV? Delete them?
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/04 23:40:20
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What do you mean by "edit"? Move them? Enable the Inline PRV? Delete them?
Yes, I can't move or delete them. It must be something very simple, as in the image above, I must have pressed some key, but I can not reverse it for this track.
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/05 14:04:06
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What happens if you expand the Track Lanes - any difference?
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/05 16:09:45
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Well, the same way that the problem appeared, now it disappeared: mysteriously.
The track is showing the clips normally again.
I'm getting used to living with these supernatural things ...
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/05 17:19:49
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Tell your cat not to walk across your keyboard when you're not looking 
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/05 17:40:14
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Is it possible you accidentally "Archived" the track? I don't think I've ever Archived a MIDI track so I'm not sure what happens to them.
Just a thought. Try hitting the Archive button (in a separate project or a Save As) to see if it mimics the behavior you saw earlier and report back if you can just for the sake of future forum/google searchers.
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/05 19:28:59
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Beepster
Is it possible you accidentally "Archived" the track? I don't think I've ever Archived a MIDI track so I'm not sure what happens to them.
Just a thought. Try hitting the Archive button (in a separate project or a Save As) to see if it mimics the behavior you saw earlier and report back if you can just for the sake of future forum/google searchers.
Cheers!
Thanks, but an Archived track still allows to move or stretch clips...
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/05 19:36:39
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** Anderton
Tell your cat not to walk across your keyboard when you're not looking
Yeah, he's my music critic! So he didn't want me making music ... 
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/05 19:37:16
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I've had the same thing occur.
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/06 16:16:44
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Here is that mystical thing happening again... can't move clips, can't stretch them, but can edit in PRV... (I think my cat walked again on my keyboard )  The properties of this second track are identical to the other tracks. Any idea?
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/06 19:46:47
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Unfold the Take Lanes and let's see what's happening there.
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/06 19:55:22
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Bahh, now the track is normal again... I give up. I will hire an exorcist. 
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/06 22:23:28
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/06 22:31:55
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☄ Helpfulby gmp 2016/08/07 00:33:57
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/10 15:34:08
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They look like Muted ... Did you press "K" key accidentally?
or the Sonar File Got corrupt?
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/10 18:04:48
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my guess was "Locked" as in locked the clip by accident.
possibly something to do with take lanes ? did you have multiple takes on those tracks ?
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/10 20:22:24
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Guys, if you read the post 1, you would know that there are no lock or mute ...
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/10 21:48:23
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rogeriodec
Guys, if you read the post 1, you would know that there are no lock or mute ...
there was a first post ?
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/10 21:55:40
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not sure why you never replied to a good question. Craig asked. AndertonUnfold the Take Lanes and let's see what's happening there. or steve's stevecWhat happens if you expand the Track Lanes - any difference? or myself Chuckebabypossibly something to do with take lanes ? did you have multiple takes on those tracks ? and yes, takes can be "Locked".
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/10 22:04:39
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chuckebaby
not sure why you never replied to a good question.
Craig asked.
AndertonUnfold the Take Lanes and let's see what's happening there.
or steve's
stevecWhat happens if you expand the Track Lanes - any difference?
or myself
Chuckebabypossibly something to do with take lanes ? did you have multiple takes on those tracks ?
and yes, takes can be "Locked".
I did not answer because all the questions were not confirmed, ie nothing different about the lanes. Thanks.
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/08/11 07:04:27
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im sorry if im misunderstanding here, im only trying to help. rogeriodec ie nothing different about the lanes.
does that mean this track (you are having issues with) does NOT have takes in it ? you recorded it using "Overwrite Recording" ? Myself, I remember being puzzled because when I selected Flatten Comp on the pop-up menu. The comp is mixed down to a new Take lane named Comp. The new take is locked. However if you didn't use take lanes, this wouldn't be the case. maybe it is a bug. what ever the case, I hope it all works out for you.
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/10/29 18:49:17
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I'm reviving this topic after a few months because this problem continues on other projects, even after upgrading to the latest versions of Sonar. I have not figured out the cause of the tracks become gray, but at least I found a solution: When you add or delete a Synth, the track backs to normal color. Before:  After insert (or delete) any synth:  There is no explanation for this, except that it's ANOTHER BUG. For those who want to do the simulation, here is the link of the project, mentioned in the images (I apologize, it has more than 10 instances of Kontakt, I could not remove just to keep the symptom): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B81wA4UHCedmVzFfMWNDTER4d0E/view?usp=sharing
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/12/11 10:52:44
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Thanks.
I have had the exact same thing happen and found this thread. I inserted a simple instrument track to the bottom (TTS-1) and all was fine with my greyed out tracks. I then deleted the TTS-1 track and moved on.
There were 2 takes in the comp lanes and when you expand the comp lanes, the main track becomes colored while the comps remain grey. I had the exact same thing on other tracks but it all remained colored.
A bug or did I do something wrong?
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/12/11 20:31:46
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It may appear you are locking the Synth track somehow. Next time this happens open Piano roll view and try unlocking the synth from the H-Track List pane.This looks like a classic case of a locked Synth. Locking the data in the Synth will NOT allow you to edit and WILL turn the clip grey. -Thus Deleting the Synth resets the lock.  See those locks up in the top right ?
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/12/11 21:21:30
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chuckebaby
See those locks up in the top right ?
When I press those locks, the piano roll notes get grey but not the clips in track view.
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/12/12 01:22:48
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☄ Helpfulby KaiRMusic 2017/10/21 12:30:13
When this happens again, try Holding Shift and clicking the ghosted clip. This has happened to me in the past when working with AudioSnap and other random glitches. Shift + Clicking brought the greyed out clips back to life. Lemme know if this helps!
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Re: All clips of one track are grey and uneditable
2016/12/12 06:10:17
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chuckebaby
See those locks up in the top right ?
When I press those locks, the piano roll notes get grey but not the clips in track view.
hmmm. good point.
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