gustabo
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/04 12:48:45
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Viamichael
There was always a buzz about the place, but after the initial relief that BandLab rescued Sonar it feels as though many people have left. There has been an absence of activity and I get the feeling that many people have left. Am I the only one who feels this way?
I definitely don't feel that way.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/04 12:56:02
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☄ Helpfulby backwoods 2018/09/05 01:16:29
I don't feel that way either, but I'm biased and I get access to the stats 
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Mully
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/04 14:05:29
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A BIG issue I believe is the inability to post due to failed log ins etc. It has taken until today (just now in fact) to get a new log in from Bandlab because my old one no longer worked...all by itself after all these years. No doubt due to all the changes behind the scenes.
If you are reading forum posts without being to be post like I have been for a while, it can be more than a little frustrating and would certainly explain most of the inactivity I believe.
Sonar however is actually even more excellent to use since the change over IMHO.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/04 18:29:46
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The ship has new sails and the monthly releases are setting a great coarse.
As for the forum, its summer time. Its hard to sit in front of a screen when the sun is shinning.
That's my excuse...
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/04 23:18:25
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>>> any idea when the new forum will appear?
I'm dreading the arrival of the new forum. We don't have fast internet here.
It'll almost certainly be state-of-the-art with yet more javascript and stuff that makes pages "cool" but heavy to download.
I accept that I may not be able to participate some day.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 01:25:39
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Viamichael
There was always a buzz about the place, but after the initial relief that BandLab rescued Sonar it feels as though many people have left. There has been an absence of activity and I get the feeling that many people have left. Am I the only one who feels this way?
There must be a bigger story waiting to happen but it doesn't seem that there is much focus on the core features of Cakewalk... It's bandlab, so at one point, they probably should enable some online collaboration within Cakewalk - my 2 cents guess is that this is what takes most of the dev team time. I am not starting any new project in Cakewalk until there are improvements to the core engine, because today there is a world of difference simply between pressing play in Studio One and in Cakewalk (VST sync, latency compensation, etc). So yes I suspect a lot of people have left. Still hanging a bit because I have some projects to close - but hopeful that a miracle will happen regarding Cakewalk...
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 09:40:37
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pwalpwal
i tried to change my profile pic...
I just changed my profile picture. Just a moment ago.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 09:51:07
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Go to your "User Control Panel" at the top of this forum
Select "Edit Profile" (which I believe is the default tab)
Find the "Avatar / Profile Photo" section of the "Edit Profile" tab
In the "Edit Avatar" box - make sure "Upload a file" is selected and click on the 'Upload a file" text (that text is actually a link)
Use the file selection dialog to find a profile picture and upload it. There are some limits on the size of the photo - mine is 640x480 PNG 218 KB
Also make sure, after you upload the file, that "use your avatar as profile photo"
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 11:43:15
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https://www.youtube.com/user/gswitz101
Views of my videos are up. In some cases surprisingly.
Getting a level with sonar and th3
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 12:14:25
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SandlinJohn
Go to your "User Control Panel" at the top of this forum
Select "Edit Profile" (which I believe is the default tab)
Find the "Avatar / Profile Photo" section of the "Edit Profile" tab
In the "Edit Avatar" box - make sure "Upload a file" is selected and click on the 'Upload a file" text (that text is actually a link)
Use the file selection dialog to find a profile picture and upload it. There are some limits on the size of the photo - mine is 640x480 PNG 218 KB
Also make sure, after you upload the file, that "use your avatar as profile photo"
thanks, that's exactly what i did and ended up with the default, i'l try again
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pwalpwal
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 12:16:45
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 12:36:39
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pwalpwal
yay
Yay....oh wait Uuurgh!
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 13:59:00
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LOL, I made the assumption you wanted your OLD avatar back.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 15:00:04
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/05 21:07:03
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I'll bet a lot of the people that decided to jump ship because of the circumstances are watching closely to see how things develop and to find out where the next port of call is.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/06 01:19:58
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Sinking ship... I think polar opposite. When dark notice of death was announced by Gibson, this forum was overwhelmed by sad mourners, including me. Sort of unhealthy beehive. I have tried many things from Cubase to Magix.... Was I able to switch and teach old dog new tricks?... Absolutely! But for me, and I believe many fans of Cakewalk, workflow is super duper important. Other Daws felt a bit like "plastic" to me. As it stands now, I know I will be safe at least several years into the future. It seems to me that Meng is not a corporate robot and is a dedicated passionate man with interesting vision, which I can not say about other companies. So far, I am very pleased with overall development and spending more time on music than on the forum. Once the forum is replaced and I am sure it will be similar or better, there will be much more traffic. My main hope for future forum that it will remain civil place mostly free of trolls & bullies.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/06 12:45:30
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In the spirit of flogging this tortured metaphor, you could say that you are in a lifeboat that has saved you from the sinking good ship Sonar. Others have not waited for the lifeboat, but instead paid for passage on passing liners that after years on SS Sonar they had no idea existed. Many have found new love on the high C's....I mean seas, and seem unlikely to return.  I'm sure there will be new travellers aplenty seeking budget passage that will embrace CbB. May the wind be in your sails whatever you choose! Auuugh. I'll go now. 
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/06 13:02:35
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Viamichael
There was always a buzz about the place, but after the initial relief that BandLab rescued Sonar it feels as though many people have left. There has been an absence of activity and I get the feeling that many people have left. Am I the only one who feels this way?
I think you're partly right. I myself have not been active on here as I have not yet gone over "to the other side", mainly because the "old" Plat is still doing me good. I am playing with the BandLab one on an offline system, but have not given it much time. I will eventually move over, but only when I know that ALL my plugins will work somehow. I think a lot of us are still on the fence, just waiting for a "proper time" to move. Ted
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/06 17:10:08
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☄ Helpfulby galeom 2018/09/06 17:20:05
I think there are a lot of advantages to being fluent in more than one DAW. I'm very happy that CbB has carried on the Sonar legacy, and I do feel that CbB is superior to Sonar Platinum due to the increased stability and subtle enhancements. However it's no secret that I've also used Studio One and Ableton Live since their respective 1.0 versions, and by being able to use each one for what it does best, I feel like there are truly no limits on my creativity. I've also noticed the music I create with each one is subtly different, even to the point of having a slightly different "sound."
I know that some people think it's hard to switch among DAWs, and that's true at the beginning of the learning curve. But once you become familiar with them, it's like riding a bicycle - you don't forget how to do it. And of course, the third-party plug-ins will work in all of them.
To me it's like guitars...I have electric, acoustic, and 12-string guitars. Each one has its own use and personality. They require different playing techniques, but that's not a deal-breaker.
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BRuys
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 02:05:49
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When Gibson dropped Cakewalk, I panicked and went out and bought a new DAW. Then Bandlab picked up our beloved DAW and I breathed a huge sigh of relief and just went back to reocording and making music in Sonar. I haven't recorded a single project in my "new" DAW.
The only thing that's changed for me is that I now install Sonar on more devices, and I don't have to feel like I'm pirating the software. I just put a little NUC into my live sound rig which is based on an XR18 digital mixer. So now I'm all set to multitrack-record live gigs. So if anything, I'm using it more now. But like many other of the old hands, I know the software so well, I just get on and use it and don't spend too much time on this forum.
It's probably fair to say that the pace of updates has slowed, so I do wonder if we'll ever see any of the ground-breaking new features we used to see. I for one would like to see chord tracks, but I don't know if Sonar is now flying in a holding pattern, or if we will see meaningful development moving forward. I guess time will tell.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 17:59:59
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☄ Helpfulby Keni 2018/09/07 18:08:59
Have a little patience and you might be pleasantly surprised :)
Bigger features take time to develop and mature.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 19:14:54
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We live in a world of worry and bail out!!!! Look at the everyday news people are worried about this, that and the other. IMHO opinion it has rubbed off on a large majority of us; even if we won't admit it. Cakewalk / Bandlab has been working great - stop worrying MAKE MUSIC .
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 19:39:25
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BRuys
It's probably fair to say that the pace of updates has slowed, so I do wonder if we'll ever see any of the ground-breaking new features we used to see. I for one would like to see chord tracks, but I don't know if Sonar is now flying in a holding pattern, or if we will see meaningful development moving forward. I guess time will tell.
I'm thrilled Noel has focused on stability and fixes recently, it's made CbB better than Sonar Platinum and resulted in a super-stable program. But Noel is wired to come up with new stuff, it's just the way he is. I'm sure that before too long, he'll add some other goodies into the mix.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 20:10:56
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Anderton
BRuys
It's probably fair to say that the pace of updates has slowed, so I do wonder if we'll ever see any of the ground-breaking new features we used to see. I for one would like to see chord tracks, but I don't know if Sonar is now flying in a holding pattern, or if we will see meaningful development moving forward. I guess time will tell.
I'm thrilled Noel has focused on stability and fixes recently, it's made CbB better than Sonar Platinum and resulted in a super-stable program. But Noel is wired to come up with new stuff, it's just the way he is. I'm sure that before too long, he'll add some other goodies into the mix.
I agree - stability has been great - anything new is just icing onthe cake IMHO
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 20:43:05
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Have a little patience and you might be pleasantly surprised :)
Bigger features take time to develop and mature.
OK that always helps... a word from the Noel. Personally I still pop in every once in a while but I've been busy, travelling, working on projects. I will say that I have spent a fair bit of time with Reaper recently, and consequently have fallen behind on keeping up with things Cakelabish, but I don't plan to abandon it as I still find it a wonderful environment. Very glad it seems to have a new lease on life, though I can't say I fully understand the business model at this point, but then I don't especially need to I suppose, as long as it keeps working. I guess that's the only worry point. I hope that's unfounded, and that things continue to tick along and develop here, as I suspect I will always have a warm cozy feeling about it.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 21:00:04
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A long time user since '98 these post Gibson era releases are by far the most stable, rock solid & glitch free.
You certainly can't complain about the price either. Great job Noel & staff!
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 21:43:51
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Well, I'm on that ship and I am a happy sailor. Water's fine from where I'm at.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 22:59:09
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AndertonI know that some people think it's hard to switch among DAWs, and that's true at the beginning of the learning curve. But once you become familiar with them, it's like riding a bicycle - you don't forget how to do it. And of course, the third-party plug-ins will work in all of them.
To me it's like guitars...I have electric, acoustic, and 12-string guitars. Each one has its own use and personality. They require different playing techniques, but that's not a deal-breaker. Wow, what a great comparison which really put it in a context that helped to make that much clearer for me. So thanks Craig and if I am correct, you are the same CA that authored a book I bought around 1982 on building your own guitar effects that included a flexi-disc with demos of said effects. Long since lost I'm afraid.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship?
2018/09/07 23:49:52
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Hidden_Symmetry
You certainly can't complain about the price either.
But will it stay at the current "price" forever? Not that it matters. I paid for it before, I'll pay for it again.
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