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2018/09/02 03:21:48 (permalink)

Am I sailing in a sinking ship?

There was always a buzz about the place, but after the initial relief that BandLab rescued Sonar it feels as though many people have left. There has been an absence of activity and I get the feeling that many people have left. Am I the only one who feels this way?
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 03:32:22 (permalink)
I don't feel that...

Yes, many people moved to other software, but many people have also become new users.

It does feel more quiet here though. I do agree with that. We seem to be simmering to some degree. We were not promised monthly updates anymore, but we've been pretty close.

I for one have backed off a bit as I don't know or expect much more than basic ongoing support. They may yet have more up their' sleeves

Some of the quiet seems to be that outside of each of our personal issues, CbB continues to run just fine.

I don't answer as many posts due to the non-functioning message reply system as well as it they seem to be answered by the time I get there finding issues I could be of help with.

I continue to look forward to each update and await new announcements...

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 03:46:57 (permalink)
I do not believe this forum is accepting new users.
The sooner BandLab can bring up the new forum and decommission this one the better.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 04:05:59 (permalink)
Yes, if there were a forum that were allowing registration for all the users that have recently adopted the new, freeware program, it would not be as quiet. Not by a long shot.
 
As soon as there is a new forum, it will be inundated.
 
This forum could be described as a sinking ship, or maybe a beached one, but CbB certainly is not.
 
I really hope a new forum happens soon. People finding their way around such a behemoth need community. And BandLab can benefit so much from the feedback from new users.

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 05:35:05 (permalink)
Viamichael
There was always a buzz about the place, but after the initial relief that BandLab rescued Sonar it feels as though many people have left. There has been an absence of activity and I get the feeling that many people have left. Am I the only one who feels this way?


I do not feel that way, it's quiet but not loud. :)
If you go over to Bandlab, you will notice that the demographics over there is a bit different compare to the average Cakewalk user. I think it will be very interesting when things are fully integrated.

But as pointed out, things are predominately working fine, meaning people are more into creating music rather than coming on here.

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 06:24:50 (permalink)
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I do not believe this forum is accepting new users.
The sooner BandLab can bring up the new forum and decommission this one the better.


I don't think its sending out password resets either, so if someone locks out, they are stuck.
 
Posted about this last week, but nobody tried to recreate.

 
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 06:29:59 (permalink)
Part of it may be that CbB, in my opinion, is the most stable crash free version in many years. This is no accident, Noel and others have worked hard to achieve this.  I've used Cakewalk since 1992 and have seen a lot of bugs and instability. IN my setup I immediately noticed a difference and this has continued for about 6 months. I've been using 2018.07 for a month and am very pleased.

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 08:06:55 (permalink)
An outline of the development road map would be encouraging, even if it includes some blue sky elements.

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 08:19:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2018/09/02 08:39:05
I got a password reset two days ago.

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 08:54:52 (permalink)
Hi. I don't visit quite as often as I used to, simply because of the missing emails/message reply system.
All the best.

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 11:11:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2018/09/02 13:47:39
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I do not believe this forum is accepting new users.
The sooner BandLab can bring up the new forum and decommission this one the better.


I don't think its sending out password resets either, so if someone locks out, they are stuck.
 
Posted about this last week, but nobody tried to recreate.


i tried to change my profile pic...

just a sec

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 15:03:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jrmunday 2018/09/03 21:23:51
So you're asking the people who are still here why others are not? Everybody who's not here please raise your hand. :)
 
gmp makes a good point - Cakewalk is extremely stable. I'd suggest one other factor: most of its users are old hands who know how to work it and how to troubleshoot their own problems. These two factors explain why traffic isn't what it used to be. Remember when X1 was released? This was a busy place back then.


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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 15:10:26 (permalink)
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I do not believe this forum is accepting new users.
The sooner BandLab can bring up the new forum and decommission this one the better.


it's kind of ironic when they are a social media company, etc, i'm genuinely surprised they didn't prio #1 the forum migration, but maybe the diff was just too big

just a sec

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 15:16:28 (permalink)
I have always come here to see what's new. I'm only still dropping by to see if anything exciting has gone down. 
Seems like the software itself is going though a very good faze where they are now focusing on bug fixes and stability. That's not very exciting, but to me it's supper important.  Personally I don't see anything else new needed and this is great software for what I do with it. 
 
I always learn something when reading the threads, this sadly has diminished as there does seem to be fewer and fewer questions that catch my fancy. This forum, I guess, will die soon and hopefully the new forum will be in the same format. Otherwise it stands the risk of loosing a lot of very helpful folks. 
 

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 15:21:59 (permalink)
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I do not believe this forum is accepting new users.
The sooner BandLab can bring up the new forum and decommission this one the better.


it's kind of ironic when they are a social media company, etc, i'm genuinely surprised they didn't prio #1 the forum migration, but maybe the diff was just too big



My theory is that because so many users were trying out Studio One, Reaper & Mix Craft, they wanted to prioritise getting CbB out there ASAP to prove to everyone it's still alive and continuing to be worked on.

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 15:50:54 (permalink)
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I do not believe this forum is accepting new users.
The sooner BandLab can bring up the new forum and decommission this one the better.


it's kind of ironic when they are a social media company, etc, i'm genuinely surprised they didn't prio #1 the forum migration, but maybe the diff was just too big



My theory is that because so many users were trying out Studio One, Reaper & Mix Craft, they wanted to prioritise getting CbB out there ASAP to prove to everyone it's still alive and continuing to be worked on.


ok, fair enough, they did that, quite easily i expect as it's basically just the post-gibson builds of sonar, time has passed, so what about the rest of it?

just a sec

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 16:24:45 (permalink)
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I do not believe this forum is accepting new users.
The sooner BandLab can bring up the new forum and decommission this one the better.


it's kind of ironic when they are a social media company, etc, i'm genuinely surprised they didn't prio #1 the forum migration, but maybe the diff was just too big



My theory is that because so many users were trying out Studio One, Reaper & Mix Craft, they wanted to prioritise getting CbB out there ASAP to prove to everyone it's still alive and continuing to be worked on.


ok, fair enough, they did that, quite easily i expect as it's basically just the post-gibson builds of sonar, time has passed, so what about the rest of it?



Bearing in mind everything on BandLab is free at the moment, I guess they're working on a new website to cope with purchases - i.e. all the other Cakewalk products like Rapture Pro, Z3TA 2, Pro Channel modules etc. Part of this will be to also migrate all the current users' products, as well as new authentication methods etc, as well as a new forum.
 
The BandLab Assistant seemed a bit rushed to my mind, and there was loads of bug reports on it, so I guess they want to take their time to get this right.
 
Any website that has to deal with online payments takes a HUGE amount of testing. When I did PayPal integration on my website, it took ages to go through what I thought was every combination of transactions, and I still ended up with outliers that weren't handled properly.
 

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 16:32:26 (permalink)
i was only talking about the forum!

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 17:17:29 (permalink)
I have noticed that there isn't the activity that there once was, but then after the initial bandlab takeover news died down there hasn't really been much to discuss. The "new" version is just Platinum with a new name and a couple of minor tweaks and as has been said the forum has not been accepting new users for some time now, so all the new customers generated by bandlab are not here. 
 
I am surprised that this forum is still going. I thought the new one would have been up quicker for the benefit of the noobs as they must all have 101 questions, but I guess taking time to get it right is better than a rushed thing that doesn't work well. My main concern with that would be that the noobs who have problems and can't join the forum and can't figure out how to reslove issues will just move on to another software because this one cost them nothing in the first place, so they have little reason to persevere if it's not working for them, which would be a shame for all concerned.
 
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 18:28:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby samson7842 2018/09/03 21:34:00
After the initial blind panic and chaos, and DAW auditioning and finding out Bandlab has taken over, I for one got back to doing what I love (and make a living out of) - music production. The rest of the world can go worry about how primitive certain other "Pro-DAW"s still are!! :O) 

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/02 21:12:32 (permalink)
Last week we got a couple .cal script updates from a user. That was cool.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/03 04:35:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2018/09/04 19:22:43
The enemy of forum traffic is software that's working well 

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/03 06:13:26 (permalink)
Not sure about a sinking ship but of cause your right when you say many people have left. Don't get me wrong as I love cakewalk, but like many people stated including myself, they will learn another DAW because they will never place all eggs in one basket from now on. So I think it's correct to say as part of their new learning curve, again like myself, they are dividing available time between different forums like Reaper or Studio One for example. 

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/03 09:13:18 (permalink)
Like some others I also think that CbB is not much different than the last Splat version. But I'm wondering that some expect a lot of new functions, because I for myself think that concerning functionality CbB (Splat) is a wonderful and complete DAW, better than most others.

So the only things I would appreciate are that:
    1. There are not too many changes to the current top design and operation.
    2. A lighter load, less resource eating. Compared to other DAW's I have some issues
        with my weak laptop (i5-5200U, 8GB, 1TB SSHD), whereas my more powered desktop
        (i5-8600K, 16GB, 500GB SSD + HDs) runs without question.
    3. Bugs are getting fixed (e.g. some with comping lanes)
 
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/03 11:33:44 (permalink)
I thought the new forum would be up and running by now. (You made a great point Pawl)
 
I also thought that the new store would be open by now.
 
With that said, Craig makes an excellent point!

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/03 14:52:23 (permalink)
Yup.  You are wrong.  Cakewalk by BandLab is better than ever and keeps improving.  They have indeed kept their word and have proved to be a responsible company dedicated to moving things forward.  What more could any user ask for?

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/03 18:59:30 (permalink)
What I liked about Sonar were the constant updates. Sure, there were bugs and it has been very stable for me, but there has been little to get excited about. Am I missing something?

It’s a fast paced world and people like me who have been using Cakewalk since the floppy disk days can attest to the fact that DAWs have advanced at an amazing pace. I have been thrilled with Sonar (I am a former lifetime member, that was a good feeling while it lasted), but I get the feeling that our stable ship has been coasting through the seas and in a year or two we will be bailing out the water caused by the bigger and faster DAWs running circles around us.

I really don’t have plans to leave Sonar and I have been dependent on it and this forum to move me along. I don’t think I have been moving much this year. I listened very carefully to people like Craig, Bitflipper, and Chuckebaby for incredible insights. I’m not really hearing too much from them, lately.
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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/03 19:51:11 (permalink)
I have been seeing updates roughly on a monthly basis.  You just have to download them via bandlab assistant and let it install them for you.  Frankly, I think that is one of the neatest things about this transition;  the fact that the updates have continued.  Most of the same voices you were hearing before are pretty regular contributors to this forum, by the way.  Seek and ye shall find.

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/03 20:08:59 (permalink)
Viamichael
 I listened very carefully to people like Craig, Bitflipper, and Chuckebaby for incredible insights. I’m not really hearing too much from them, lately.



I'm too busy using CbB (as well as Studio One) to finish my "Joie De Vivre" music project . At the moment I've sort of settled into a groove of using what I know, rather than experimenting with new techniques.
 
Also, I've been really hard at work on the Musician's Guide to Home Recording series for Hal Leonard. And Summer is a major travel schedule for me - did 14 personal appearances in June alone.
 
As to insights, I collected them in the most recent tips book, and don't really have anything much to add to it right now. However I suspect that as we type, Noel & Co. are cooking up new stuff .
 
I love that CbB "just plain works," so I'm taking advantage of that.

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Re: Am I sailing in a sinking ship? 2018/09/03 20:52:36 (permalink)
What Craig said!

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