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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 15:04:17 (permalink)
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OK,but HBO? LOTR was New Line Cinema/Wingnut Films...


OK, I'm a dolt. I thought we were talkin' GOT. 
 
Move along, nothing to see here.
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 15:04:56 (permalink)
I never read any LOTR and only saw the first movie. Bored me to tears.
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 15:05:23 (permalink)
I should keep calm and read the whole thread?
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 15:10:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/10/21 16:12:48
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I never read any LOTR and only saw the first movie. Bored me to tears.




To each, his own.
 
I've read the books many times and was completely transfixed by 'Fellowship' at the cinema, couldn't believe I had to wait a year for 'The Two Towers' when it ended. The 'Helm's Deep' section of the 2nd movie is one of the few CGI based sequences I can watch over and over, just brilliantly done.
 

 
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 15:38:07 (permalink)
I barely watch any movies, I get fidgety after about 26 minutes of looking at a screen without interacting with it somehow. You have to drag me to the movies, I find it excruciating. Much prefer books. Just a matter of taste but people rarely understand and in some cases actually get offended that you don't like the same things they do. I recall telling someone that I'd never seen Pulp Fiction and had no desire to watch it, he actually took it personally and demanded I watch it with him. Same with The Matrix, had a friend insist that he "fix" my predicament by renting the movie for me. You can count the number of movies I've seen in the last decade on one hand. If I was forced into a situation where I had no choice to sit through a movie, I'd find my eyes would go out of focus and I'd just listen to the music.

Ditto with fantasy books like LOTR. If you're not into wizards and goblins and hobbits and magic wands then it's just not happening.

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 15:45:30 (permalink)
I liked the original as a kid but even as an 8yo I could smell the fromage factor of it. The cool things really were Chris Loyd (who I loved in Taxi much to the chagrin of my parents) and the Iranian scene/element (I didn't understand the politics of it but for some reason that type of global terror wackiness made my puny little mind think it was important).
 
As for Dave Grohl... as a huge Nirvana fan I would say he was actually the LEAST "cool" member of the band (even including Pat Smear who used to play for the Germs which I did not know until a few years ago... HOLY CRAP!!!) but he was certainly the coolest (and one helluva) drummer.
 
I like some Foos but dislike a lot more. Dave strikes me as just a nice, kind of dorky, guy who loves music and took what was handed to him and ran with it. I'd totally hang and jam with him. The Foo oriented worship seems to be the result of frat boy crap (which was apparent when I went to one of their shows ages ago). I don't think he even really digs that and is more interested in the stuff you or I would be into (which is evident with Probot and his stint with QotSA which was some niiiice drum work).
 
I love Dave's drumming and some of his harder ass tunes with the Foos (I really like the tune Low) but for the most part it's not the stuff I'd put on just to listen to. He did at least give pop rock a good kick in the arse though and made something of himself after Nirvana.
 
I wish Noveselic (sp?) had kept at it though. He was a really interesting bass player and extremely underated IMO. I honestly think with out his sound and wacky walking basslines to prop up Kurts riffs the Nirvana tunes would not have been nearly as appealing.
 
Seriously listen to those tracks and mentally omit the bass. The vocal lines and guitar riffs are cool but the bass really adds that unique flavor to it all.
 
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 15:52:59 (permalink)
Oh and I like GoT but not as much as I liked the series Rome... which has all the dynamics I enjoy GoT for but it's much better and is actually somewhat based on historic events.
 
Rome got fuxxored I think for being produced too early. The audiences weren't ready for that heady high production stuff yet and got torpedoed before its time.
 
So now we have freaking dragons and wizard and sh*t.
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 16:12:37 (permalink)
I hate acronyms too - in fact, until very recently, I made a point of trying to avoid them. But at some point, the acronym seems to become the standard.
 
James - Thanks for the heads up on the spelling error, my fellow grammar nazi. ;) Sincerely, I expect to be told when I make mistakes. That's how one improves.
 
As for Lord of the Ring... For a while, I lived with roommates who were into role playing games and all things medieval and/or involving knights and swords and wizards and midgets. They worshipped Lord of the Ring to a point where I got sick of it before I even read a line.
 
Beepster - I like Grohl. I loved Nirvana. I love his work w/ Them Crooked Vultures - one of the very good shows I've seen. And the entire first Foo Fighters album was one of my go-to when I was DJ'ing. I actually played most of it the very day it came out.
 
But as for the rest - it's not the actual person or thing, but the cult around them and the fads that just annoy me. The culture of gossip, I guess.
 
Rudy Sarzo once broke a leg the day before he went on tour w/ Whitesnake. He went and played w/ the cast on. He didn't actually make a show out of it though, so they did not build him a throne.
 
Grohl has been made into some kind of messianic figure and THAT's what annoys me. He's milking it - and why shouldn't he? But that's also slightly annoying. 
 
About Rome - now THAT's more like it. I'm actually glad that it was spared and didn't become such a fad.
 
 
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 16:39:46 (permalink)
Cult of personality, yo. Funny thing is all those ball cap wearin' jocko/frattos who worship the Foos and the "Foo" Grohl were the same ones who were likely running around donkey punching the nerdy grunge kids wearing Nirvana shirts back in the day.
 
I guess I kind of figure maybe Dave took a lesson from the Kurt tragedy and embraced/rolled with the fame so he could be prosperous and do right by his family instead of getting consumed by it all and... well ending up a useless, dead f*ckup.
 
No matter how hurt any of us fans were by that crap it's Bean who took the brunt being left behind with that total mess of a "mother" and the media vultures constantly probing around. I feel bad for the dude's mom too who had to deal with the damned mess he left behind after doing nothing but being a positive influence in his life.
 
It was a bullsh*t move all around really. You can't do that to people.
 
Edit: That is of course going on the presumption the conspiracy theories about it being a murder are false. I'm pretty inclined to think they are but who knows. Sounds like the entire group of people surrounding him (aside from the band) were a total trainwreck.
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 16:42:46 (permalink)
Rome. I loved it. Probably because of the pseudo historic nature and the amazing sets and props. I don't find it resembles Game of Thrones, other than the sexual content. I like them both but the nod would be to Rome.
 
Walking dead is becoming tiresome. How many ways can you kill a dead person. It needs an injection of new characters or a major plot list.
 
As for the rest of Rain's list, well, he's Rain. I would expect him to run contrary to most cultural icons propped up by 20 somethings. As for his bacon hatred..... Hmmm. Hopefully he still likes pancakes and maple syrup.

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 17:04:34 (permalink)
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Rome. I loved it. Probably because of the pseudo historic nature and the amazing sets and props. I don't find it resembles Game of Thrones, other than the sexual content. I like them both but the nod would be to Rome.
 
Walking dead is becoming tiresome. How many ways can you kill a dead person. It needs an injection of new characters or a major plot list.
 
As for the rest of Rain's list, well, he's Rain. I would expect him to run contrary to most cultural icons propped up by 20 somethings. As for his bacon hatred..... Hmmm. Hopefully he still likes pancakes and maple syrup.




LOL
 
As a matter of fact, I think it all boils down to the fact that I see fads as a renouncement to one's individuality. I've always been reluctant when it comes to quoting people or borrowing, or adhering too closely to anything. 
 
There is a paradox, as I'm a fan of classics.
 
I guess I prefer to make my own fads.
 
Now, I need to immerse myself into the history of Rome. I've already watched hours worth of documentaries last month, but I need books. Lots of them. I loved the series, but I don't expect anything on TV to be half accurate.
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 17:17:04 (permalink)
SPOILER ALERT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN "ROME"!!!
 
You'll probably be disappointed because Rome (the series) revolves around the two main characters (both of which are fictional). It merely eludes to the transitional period between Julius and Octavian. They kind of screw with things a bit too where Cleo gets knocked up by one of the fictional characters (forget what they called him) and passes it off as Julius' child... if I'm remembering the series correctly.
 
Same character is the unnamed (in history) Roman soldier who executes Cicero.
 
Been thinking of rewatching it. I've seen it three times already but it's been a while.
 
Currently on Boardwalk Empire which is turning out to be pretty good.
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 17:20:35 (permalink)
For the record, I read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings trilogy at least a dozen times.  There were others I read like that as well (the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, all the Dune books, Ursula K. Le Guin's Wizard of Earthsea books, etc.).  I've always done a better job of visualizing the worlds in my head than the movie theaters did (though the film versions of the LOTR were outstanding).
 
As for Rain's dislike of bacon, that's just more for me (as long as I can avoid that pooch!).

 
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 17:22:01 (permalink)
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Currently on Boardwalk Empire which is turning out to be pretty good.




I love Boardwalk Empire - and luckily, it doesn't seem to enjoy the same level of hype. So far. 
 
Breaking Bad ended just in time too. It was getting a bit too much hype for my taste in the last season.

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 17:22:32 (permalink)
I watch movies for the gurlz

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 17:39:02 (permalink)
As an aside, this is my favorite Christopher Lloyd moment of all time. Silly as hell of course but classic comedy. 
 

 
 

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 17:45:11 (permalink)
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As an aside, this is my favorite Christopher Lloyd moment of all time. Silly as hell of course but classic comedy. 
 

 
 




LOL
 
I thought he was remarkable in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - as were all actors involved.
 
Otherwise, I prefer to think of him as good old Uncle Fester.

I never think of him as that guy in the Back to the Future franchise. I never realized that they were such cult classics. 

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 17:50:26 (permalink)
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I love Boardwalk Empire - and luckily, it doesn't seem to enjoy the same level of hype. So far. 
 
Breaking Bad ended just in time too. It was getting a bit too much hype for my taste in the last season.




It had actually totally slipped under my radar. Surprising since Scorcese was involved. I'm only in Season 1 and having a bit of fun matching up some of the fictional characters to the real life gangsters (and other folks) they're based on via the various Wikis and nerdo sites. It kind of nicely compliments the fact I just rewatched The Sopranos recently (but rewatched The Wire in between).
 
Breaking Bad of course is awesome but was definitely threatening to get stupid (and kind of did a little but not enough to ruin it).
 
Walking Dead was always kind of dumb and hokey but still enjoyable just like all zombie crap. I guess there is a new season out now but the season finale ending (which was the last one I watched) was one of those "this is gettin' cheesy" moments.
 
As far as Hobbit/LotR I read them all at the behest of a friend many MANY years ago and enjoyed them. Watched the movies many years later which I also enjoyed and from memory seemed to be very well done/accurate.
 
Total nerd culture though of course. I think the thing is a) those "nerds" are the ones who grew up and are controlling things now (thus have the money) and b) the film/video tech is now available to reasonably produce what the nerds were able to conjure up in their minds eye from the written page... and it's impressive to those who need things in TV/film format to truly appreciate.
 
Look at the previous attempts at turning Tolkein and the like into film versions. Soooo cheesy and lame.
 
I'm just p*ssed that they mangled Hitchikers Guide so badly. Someone needs to do that entire series up nice and proper like Jackson did with LotR (and what is now being done with GoT... which I've admittedly never read but is apparently pretty close to the books).
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 17:57:33 (permalink)
IMO Breaking Bad was the best all-around series every done ...
 
Walking Dead is surface-stupid to me, but if you think about it on the abstract, it does a darn good job of making one think about how far they would go in the most desperate of times.
 
Dexter is another one that got old really fast, but I couldn't help myself.  I binged the whole thing in a matter of a few weeks on Netflix.
 
I enjoyed reading LOTR, but prefer the movies.  The books were written with so much detailed imagery that I had a hard time not getting distracted.
 
GOT is good because of the gurlz
 
 

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 18:03:43 (permalink)
I loved Dexter, in spite of the craze. 
 
Six Feet Under would probably be at or very near the top of my list. Along with a French comedic series called Kaamelott.
 
As for the rest, I seem to like older series. I've managed to make my lovely lady a Trekkie - we just finished watching Voyager and I got her started on DS9.
 
The old late 70's Incredible Hulk is awesome if I feel the need to regress, as is the 60's Batman series.
 
 

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 18:04:21 (permalink)
Lurves me some Dexter. I hope they bring him back now that he's been off in the wilderness for a while. There was some talk of that after the series ended.
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 18:26:18 (permalink)
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I loved Dexter, in spite of the craze. 
 
Six Feet Under would probably be at or very near the top of my list. Along with a French comedic series called Kaamelott.
 
As for the rest, I seem to like older series. I've managed to make my lovely lady a Trekkie - we just finished watching Voyager and I got her started on DS9.
 
The old late 70's Incredible Hulk is awesome if I feel the need to regress, as is the 60's Batman series.
 
 




You know, the second run of Battlestar was enjoyable for me too.  Another NF binge

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 18:27:27 (permalink)
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Lurves me some Dexter. I hope they bring him back now that he's been off in the wilderness for a while. There was some talk of that after the series ended.




I would love to see Dexter picked up again, but I would be skeptical.  My $$ would be on it being ruined in some way I couldn't live with.

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 18:35:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/10/21 19:14:00
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As an aside, this is my favorite Christopher Lloyd moment of all time. Silly as hell of course but classic comedy. 
 

 
 




LOL
 
I thought he was remarkable in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - as were all actors involved.
 
Otherwise, I prefer to think of him as good old Uncle Fester.

I never think of him as that guy in the Back to the Future franchise. I never realized that they were such cult classics. 




He was also the Klingon commander in one of the Star Trek movies (Search For Spock I believe).  George Carlin had fun with that one saying it was hard to imagine him as anything but Reverend Jim: "So Kirk, you won't hand over the Genesis project?  Well, ok then!"  LOL!

 
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 18:47:12 (permalink)
Wait a minute...are you telling me there's a NEW Star Wars movie? Holy crap. No way.
 
After Jar Jar I thought they'd have given up. Next you're gonna tell me it's a Disney production!


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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 19:04:18 (permalink)
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Wait a minute...are you telling me there's a NEW Star Wars movie? Holy crap. No way.
 
After Jar Jar I thought they'd have given up. Next you're gonna tell me it's a Disney production!




And by the same guy who's disfigured Star Trek, yes. :P 
At least, Star Wars is more likely to benefit from his special sort of "talent".
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/21 22:07:56 (permalink)
Just a good movie or two before that's all.
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/22 08:10:27 (permalink)
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the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant




 
That's a brilliant set of books, I somehow lost most of them when we moved to Scotland, must get them again.

 
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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/22 08:48:08 (permalink)
The Walking Dead isn't about the Zombies.  
 
Sure there's plenty of flesh eating walkers to contend with  but I really think the appeal of this series is that it's a metaphor for the end of the world in whatever way it happens to manifest itself at some future point in time, and that interests many people. Think Baltimore or Ferguson on a national or worldwide scale that goes on for months or perhaps longer...a total breakdown of society if you will, no matter what the source.

It's appeal is more, to me anyway, about how the characters change and adapt to the changing world around them that is totally out of phase with how things used to be.  And of course, who wouldn't just love to do some zombie head shots?

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Re: Am I the only person on earth... 2015/10/22 19:05:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/10/22 20:24:29
NO, you aren't... and FWIW, I have never seen ET. Don't care if I ever see it.
 
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