AnSwErEd dimension pro query

With any VSTi in the browser just double click it and a dialog box will open. The default opens at least one MIDI track and one Audio track with the Synth inserted and connected as required. For synths that can have multiple outputs you can select to open them all in the dialog box.

This is the best way to open any VSTi. You really should do the tutorials in the help file because they are really good at helping you to get to grips with the basics.

Has anyone written any Soft Synth Track template files for Dimension Pro?

Track templates are handy but redundant for simple soft synth inserts. The suggestion in the previous thread to use a template was to eliminate the possibility of error when inserting the synth. Ultimately, the source of the failure in the previous thread was the imported MIDI file. 
 
I described how to insert a synth here. A more detailed description may be found here. A longer description of the "Insert Soft Synth Options" dialog, a step which is apparently being skipped in favor of a manual process, is here. Maybe a run through tutorial #4 will help with the basics. All the synths work essentially the same way. They insert in a project the same way. They play the same way.

Hi John, scook and Mike,
 
Thanks for your patience and for your help...  If possible could I have a few more moments of your time on this...
 
I use the same instructions to add a dimension pro soft synth and route the already existing data in a midi output to it, and still does not work.
 
I know these steps pretty well now from your help in the other posts I made earlier, (CW TTS1, SI-Bass and SessionDrummer) I've been through these tutorials, I've read through the notes on soft synths VSTi's and I know the basics pretty well I would think..
 
So I suspect there is something either wrong with my dimension pro, my 3rd party midi file or there is something extra that needs to be set for dim pro that isn't already mentioned in tutorial and in the previous threads.
 
To eliminate if there is something wrong with DP, I created a new project, added a new midi track and used the piano roll and added some chords to it.  I then double clicked DP from the VSTi and from the DP plugin popup I chose a program to use for an instrument.  Hit play and this works fine...
 
Next I created a new midi track and imported 3rd party midi file to it and specified the same DP VSTi track, used the event list to view any none data events and removed them. hit play and does not work.  The DP VSTi track will no longer play anything, including the piano roll I created at the beginning which previously worked!
 
If I do the same for CW TTS, there is no problem, it plays regardless. 
 
There seems to be a lot more sensitivity with respect to what is in the data from the mid track that was imported from mid file for Dimension Pro and also SessionDrummer.  In SessionDrummer, it was found that I needed to use the Insert Soft Synth using Track Template and removing these bits of data from the midi track that are none note specific - this works for SessionDrummer and SI-Bass Guitar, only because I used the track templates to set them up first. 
 
If however I use manual method to add SessionDrummer and the SI-Bass Guitar, no matter what I tried I couldn't get any midi output through it, (note I haven't tried to insert noes using piano roll for these in the past).  I think this is the same problem at play I am now having with Dimension Pro.  Seems even though I remove these events using the event list delete key, I still can't play.
 
On the other hand, if I use CW TTS with these midi files - I have no problems at all, (except that I won't be able to specify different bank setup, unless I delete the bank data from the event list) even with these none note related data events in them I can still use CW TTS.
 
So here is my query regarding dimension pro, (and for other soft synths too); why is there no consistency in each of these soft synths when it comes to setting them up and using them with standard midi files?  Why is Dimension Pro a lot more sensitive than CW TTS and what difference does the track template in SessionDrummer make verses manually adding a SD track in relation to the problem I'm having?
 
To scook, with the previous drum midi file I sent to you, can you use this with dimension pro successfully?  If you can what is it I need to do to get it to work? If you are successful can you create a track template for me to use by "save as track template" option and send it to me.
 
To me there seems to be some subtle inconsistencies in VSTi's, CW TTS seems to be the more robust, simplest of the ones I've used so far to use as a Soft Synth than it is to use ie, Dimension Pro, SessionDrummer and SI-Bass Guitar...
 
Jim
 
 
 

scook

• Load the MIDI file. If playing the MIDI file does not sound, the problem lies in the MIDI data.

Hi scook, I don't necessarily agree with this point - why then does CW TTS work ALL the time, even where there are events none data notes related?
 
With regards to the other points you listed - please read through my previous post - you'll see I have already gone through all these points....

GM? Please no acronyms unless you specify the meaning of it - what is a GM Synth?

ah ok..
 
You mention
 
"Or maybe get in the habit if inserting the MIDI Event Filter MFX in every MIDI track."
 
Would you care to elaborate???  Do I just drag the "MIDI Effect Filter" from the MIDI FX to the midi track FX Bin?

Ok thanks scook... your a legend!!!
 
I'm removing ALL none note related events and looks like this is working now...
 
Cheers!
 
 

Conclusion:
 
I went one step further and identified which of the events cause dimension pro to play up.. I filtered all Pitch Wheel, RPN and Patch Change events.  The file runs just fine now with Control events included along with all the Notes.

Hi Mike,
 
All is good - just working with midi files that were created that include Pitch Wheel & RPN commands - these seem to play a little havoc with some of the VSTi's...
 
Once again thanks for your help, its all a little daunting at first but I think I'm now a little more proficient in using all this little bits and pieces...
 
Jim