Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it?

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Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it?

I've been offline for over a year, and during the recent Black Friday sales thought I should grab a new DAW while they're on sale, and since Sonar was orphaned. I got a great deal on Studio One 3 Pro, but haven't used it yet. Just getting familiar with my old Sonar X3 Studio again, to remix and complete some old projects. Still like it, and of course not looking forward to the learning curve of a new DAW. 
I see lots of familiar "faces" here even after more than a year's absence...   are you guys going to stick with Sonar?  Any of you use Studio One and what do you think...  a good move?   My Sonar still crashes from time to time, and recall it being a little glitchy when I was doing recording a year ago. 

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    WallyG
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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 16:56:59 (permalink)
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    I've been offline for over a year, and during the recent Black Friday sales thought I should grab a new DAW while they're on sale, and since Sonar was orphaned. I got a great deal on Studio One 3 Pro, but haven't used it yet. Just getting familiar with my old Sonar X3 Studio again, to remix and complete some old projects. Still like it, and of course not looking forward to the learning curve of a new DAW. 
    I see lots of familiar "faces" here even after more than a year's absence...   are you guys going to stick with Sonar?  Any of you use Studio One and what do you think...  a good move?   My Sonar still crashes from time to time, and recall it being a little glitchy when I was doing recording a year ago. 




    I'm sure this thread will get moved but, when Sonar went Tango-Uniform last fall, I researched alternative DAWs and bought Studio One 3 Pro. One of the best decisions I made (my second wife was the best!).
     
    Very similar to Sonar in many respects, but I like the MIDI implementation better, and the project page for mastering is to die for.
     
    I still read this forum, since there is a wealth of info that is applicable to any DAW, and waiting to see what happens with the new Sonar. If it gets better than SO, I might come back, but there would have to be many improvements.
     
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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 17:02:31 (permalink)
    I'm diggin' S1 Pro. It takes some getting used to but it's pretty intuitive coming from Sonar. I picked up S1 on the crossgrade deal just to make sure I was up to speed in case Sonar became unusable. I'm happy having both Sonar and S1 as they have different strengths. Take it for a spin.
     
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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 17:22:18 (permalink)
    I haven't switched over to Studio One as my main DAW. I like having it around as a backup program. It could be all you need or want.
    I much prefer Sonar when making my mixes for various reasons. Unless Sonar goes in a very bad direction I seriously doubt that will ever change.
    My last album was made in Sonar and I used Studio One as my mastering program. I have occasionally tracked in it too. It wasn't "knock your socks off" better in my opinion. Not so much better I would spend all of my time in it instead of Sonar. It has some cool features for sure. 
    It really becomes a very subjective decision based on your wants/needs. 
    Some people really like the integration Studio One has with Presonus hardware. Faderport and similar work just fine in Sonar too.
    The mindset of many music PC users including myself isn't brand loyal unless there is some kind of advantage to me.Otherwise I'll use whatever works for the best price.
    I would say if you liked working in Sonar wait and see.
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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 17:52:44 (permalink)

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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 18:14:57 (permalink)
    They are both top notch DAWs.
    I prefer the look and feel and UI of Sonar, but Studio 1 has much better pitch and time stretching.
     
    They both have great comping features and ARA integration is identical.
     
    My crashes in Sonar are rare, but I've yet to have a single crash in Studio1
     
    ProChannel and Fat Channel (Studio 1's version) are both nice to work with and great sounding.  
    I rely heavily on a large collecion of Waves plugins regardless of which DAW I'm using.
     
    My primary interest in Studio 1 is the tight integration with the Presonus Series III Mixer/Interfaces.  
    It's a workflow I've waited years for.
     
    Minus that software/hardware integration, I would only use Studio 1 for quantizing and editing the timing of audio.  The UI is terrible looking and confusing.  The track layers and sub groups don;t indent and all the shades of grey are the same.
     
    Using other DAWs has definitley made me appreciate Sonar more.  I hope Sonar lives on and gets even better under its new ownership.
     
     

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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 18:40:37 (permalink)
    project page.
    'nuff said.
     

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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 19:30:46 (permalink)
    If PreSonus would add a chord track and an internal notation view, then it might become the "One".  It does just about everything else well.
     
    Studio One is impressive, but v3 appears to be a work in progress.  We'll see what v4 brings.  As it is now, it's solid as a rock, as well as sleek and lightweight.  I picked it up cheap last year as a crossgrade, and I am still learning it.  I see no problem with having several tools, and using the tool that best fits the hand for any given task.  All DAWs do the same basic function, but the workflow for a particular task may be more efficient in one vs the others.
     
    The only thing that I find annoying with the Studio One bundled instruments and plugins, as some are excellent, is they are locked to the DAW.  If I used another DAW in my workflow, I would be reluctant to use the S1 bundled plugs unless I planned to start and finish a project entirely within Studio One.  That may not be an issue for some, but I would like to be free to use as many tools as I need, ala carte, and not be stuck in one DAW due to my plugin dependencies.  I have enough 3rd party plugins at this point to make this a non issue, but still...  Come on PreSonus, loosen up a bit! 

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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 19:52:53 (permalink)
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    The only thing that I find annoying with the Studio One bundled instruments and plugins, as some are excellent, is they are locked to the DAW. 




    Cubase is the same way with their effects plug ins.  The instruments (at least those you can buy separately, like Padshop or Halion) are not locked.

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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 20:03:28 (permalink)
    abacab
    If PreSonus would add a chord track and an internal notation view, then it might become the "One".  It does just about everything else well.




    The Notion integration is pretty cool! It's an add-on but it's worth it especially if you catch it on sale.
     
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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 20:26:45 (permalink)
    I got S1 as a backup when the news came. Never switched though.
    I've recorded and mixed in it, as well as REAPER and (mixed in) MixBus.
    I know SONAR much better, but had no issues working in either DAW's.
    I work in Logic at times as well (at a friends studio), and see them all as tools.
    I just know some tools better than others

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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 21:51:54 (permalink)
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    If PreSonus would add a chord track and an internal notation view, then it might become the "One".  It does just about everything else well.




    The Notion integration is pretty cool! It's an add-on but it's worth it especially if you catch it on sale.
     
    Rocky




    I know, I have Notion, and basically stole it for a crossgrade price + a discount deal. 
     
    It's really nice!  But there is still no notation view directly in the DAW.  It would be nice to just flip on a notation view when a MIDI clip is playing back in the DAW.  Editing the MIDI in a DAW PRV and viewing the notation in the DAW at the same time is useful.  Even Reaper can do this now.  Sonar has had it for ages...
     
    And you may notice some griping over at the PreSonus forums about the need for a fully integrated Notion notation view in the DAW... 

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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/19 22:40:05 (permalink)
    WHAT I LIKE ABOUT S1P VER 3.5:
     
    1. project page. worth the price of admission alone.
    2. IR maker. same as #1.
    3. Pro EQ- very straightforward, waterfall, lots of visual info.
    4. bus routing: the way it should be.
    5. VCA: pretty cool for setting up automation without going to the bus.
    6. ampire: sounds as good as anything else i've heard.
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    9. Pipeline Mono/Stereo : whoa.
    10. the meters. they are awesome.
    11. automation: creation of curves is dead easy.
    12. arranger track: way more powerful than what i had in sonar 6 pe.
    13. scratch pads. whoa. don't know about these? well, i'm sorry......
    14. browsing. the best of all platforms.
    15. multi instrument panel, and macro control knobs. for some folks, this would be the main selling point.
    16. stretching the faders in console view, all the way up to the top of the screen. whoa.
    17. Macros. man, i haven't dug into this fully yet, but the idea that you can set up a deep array of multiple commands and have them all automated, in order, via a macro, is super sweet. the build process is dirt simple.
    18. low latency monitoring: the way s1 does it, it's mighty powerful.
    19. drag and drop functions: super easy to create sends by just dragging effects.
    20. there's more than i have time for!
     

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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/20 10:17:59 (permalink)
    bluzdog
    I'm diggin' S1 Pro. It takes some getting used to but it's pretty intuitive coming from Sonar. I picked up S1 on the crossgrade deal just to make sure I was up to speed in case Sonar became unusable. I'm happy having both Sonar and S1 as they have different strengths. Take it for a spin.
     
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    That's pretty much my deal too.  +10 on knowing Sonar is a big help when it comes to learning S1.

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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/27 02:46:36 (permalink)
    I also went Studio One. I love the arranger view and scratch pad but my fav is the Remote app.  It works great on my ASUS ZenPad 3s 10. Besides wireless it adds a very usable touch screen to the mix. Really cool!
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    Re: Any Sonar users switching over to Studio One ? What do you think of it? 2018/03/28 17:04:03 (permalink)
    Small thing...
    I'm not crazy about Studio One's "Clip Fade In/Out" (compared to Reaper or Samplitude)... as the fade curve choice is limited.  You can adjust the intensity of the fast of slow (log) curve (which is a step beyond SPLAT)... but it's "linear", "fast", or "slow" for the fade itself (no cosine option).

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