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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/15 22:02:18 (permalink)
Thanks guys, that makes me feel a bit better. You just never know about people...

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/16 04:06:25 (permalink)
well at least the old mystery "whatever became of khaerjus" is solved ....
 
really horrible

 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/16 09:56:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ampfixer 2017/02/16 11:36:57
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No hard feelings, bro. I can understand where you are coming from and if you had done what I just did on one of my regular forums. I would have been the guy saying the things you said. Unfortunately the evidence presented in the media here is beyond doubt. The case has been on going since 2014 and I have been in denial for apx the same amount of time. I just feel that his costumers have a right to know. It does not make the software worse all of a sudden. Its still some damn fine software but there may be people who wont even have it on their machine out of principle, given what we now know and they should at least be told so they have the option. 
 
I may join up as a regular here in a while. I think I may have caught the Z3TA+ bug, but lets give it another couple of weeks before I know for sure. Damn a fine instrument this is. 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/16 10:21:06 (permalink)
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That said I'm not completely sure why what the FBI did is so wrong. They caught a bad guy and maybe his associates. I see that as a good thing. Further human traffickers need to be hunted down and put away.

 
We are in agreement, but you and I are talking about justice. Right/wrong. This is about law. Law and justice do at times overlap but are two completely different beasts. Hacking and speading malware is illegal. This is not open to debate and the legal interpretation is strict and narrow. It does not matter how good intentions you have when you do it, it is illegal. If someone made a worm that would dig through government computers and out all the lies, dishonesty and soft corruption is commonplace even in the western world. I would salute such a person for his ethical work for the benefit of society as a whole. The law is going to say that he broke the law and is not going to care an iota about his good intentions. He did something he was not supposed to be doing. 
 
But lets see where it goes. Kjærhus is still in prison (and is unlikely to get released) and the highest prosecutor wants to throw him in a hole and throw away the whole facility in which the hole is located. The FBI case is going to be between the involved nation states legal systems and the FBI (and US forreign affairs administration) and will have little relevance for the actual Kjærhus case. It is a ...what do you call it in English, matter of principle. It will be a principle case?!
 
 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/16 11:13:11 (permalink)
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The software did nothing wrong. You can use it without any moral problems...

 
Exactly. I'm sure that there are evil stories associated with half the things that we rely on in daily life. You could easily get put off doing just about anything if you look deep enough into history.


Quite true - The unethical coltan discussion is a case in point and unfortunately, could potentially be a factor in any electronic device with a capacitor 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/16 11:39:53 (permalink)
The VC64 is removed from my system. Are there any other plugs that he created that are bundled with Sonar?
The last thing I want to see is a constant reminder of a bad person. I don't really care how others react, it's strictly a personal choice.

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/16 19:50:12 (permalink)
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The VC64 is removed from my system. Are there any other plugs that he created that are bundled with Sonar?
The last thing I want to see is a constant reminder of a bad person. I don't really care how others react, it's strictly a personal choice.


I feel inclined to do the same. Does anyone know of a good substitute for the VC64? Or even how to copy the settings on a preset to another plugin?

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/16 20:16:36 (permalink)
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The VC64 is removed from my system. Are there any other plugs that he created that are bundled with Sonar?
The last thing I want to see is a constant reminder of a bad person. I don't really care how others react, it's strictly a personal choice.


Apparently he partnered Cakewalk with developing Staff View

 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 01:08:15 (permalink)
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The VC64 is removed from my system. Are there any other plugs that he created that are bundled with Sonar?
The last thing I want to see is a constant reminder of a bad person. I don't really care how others react, it's strictly a personal choice.


Apparently he partnered Cakewalk with developing Staff View




i think that's safe, as staff view/notation in sonar already gives people a constant reminder of bad things
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 02:04:48 (permalink)
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The VC64 is removed from my system. Are there any other plugs that he created that are bundled with Sonar?
The last thing I want to see is a constant reminder of a bad person. I don't really care how others react, it's strictly a personal choice.


Apparently he partnered Cakewalk with developing Staff View


 I never use it!

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 10:42:51 (permalink)
I'm pretty sure that Kjaerhus was NOT involved with Cakewalk's development of staff view.
 
The person/people that developed Cakewalk's staff view were spun off into a company called Geniesoft, where they created products named Overture and Score Writer. They are still very much in business today, but a few years back the company was renamed Sonic Scores. You can check them out at sonicscores.com.
 
I don't have their latest version (5), but I do have version 4 of Score Writer, and the dialog boxes for managing midi and audio devices are identical to those used in Sonar!
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 14:23:54 (permalink)
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The VC64 is removed from my system. Are there any other plugs that he created that are bundled with Sonar?
The last thing I want to see is a constant reminder of a bad person. I don't really care how others react, it's strictly a personal choice.


I feel inclined to do the same. Does anyone know of a good substitute for the VC64? Or even how to copy the settings on a preset to another plugin?

The VC64 is a plugin of multiple parts, it depends a lot on what you use it for. There's the BlueTubes Analog Trackbox which shares a bunch of features. But it has only a single compressor and no de-esser. There's also PSP Vintage Warmer. If you're using it more for mastering you could look to a product like Ozone from Izotope.

EDIT: Oh and it would be nearly useless to copy the settings to another plugin. That's kinda like copying the settings from a Marshall amp to a Fender twin and expecting the same results. Your ears are the best guide here.
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 16:57:30 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that Kjaerhus was NOT involved with Cakewalk's development of staff view...

 
I believe that the comment about Staff View meant to be a joke. It was certainly in bad taste though.

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 17:03:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2017/02/17 21:48:13
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I believe that the comment about Staff View meant to be a joke. It was certainly in bad taste though.




I thought it was funny. 
 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 17:11:37 (permalink)
A 7 year old thread suddenly brought alive by...?  Get this thing moved to the plugin thread or the coffeehouse.

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 18:00:18 (permalink)
indeed, thread better be moved. Cannot imagine myself using VC64 ever again.

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 18:10:54 (permalink)
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A 7 year old thread suddenly brought alive by...?  Get this thing moved to the plugin thread or the coffeehouse.


Afrodrum
indeed, thread better be moved. 



Because that's the level of the people in those sub-forums ? 
 
Must be great to be so superior.
 
 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 20:54:49 (permalink)
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The VC64 is removed from my system. Are there any other plugs that he created that are bundled with Sonar?
The last thing I want to see is a constant reminder of a bad person. I don't really care how others react, it's strictly a personal choice.


I feel inclined to do the same. Does anyone know of a good substitute for the VC64? Or even how to copy the settings on a preset to another plugin?

The VC64 is a plugin of multiple parts, it depends a lot on what you use it for. There's the BlueTubes Analog Trackbox which shares a bunch of features. But it has only a single compressor and no de-esser. There's also PSP Vintage Warmer. If you're using it more for mastering you could look to a product like Ozone from Izotope.

EDIT: Oh and it would be nearly useless to copy the settings to another plugin. That's kinda like copying the settings from a Marshall amp to a Fender twin and expecting the same results. Your ears are the best guide here.

Thanks for that information. I kind of intuitively thought that copying settings wouldn't work. I tried that with the LP 64 EQ, to the Reaper EQ, and it didn't sound the same. But I may check into those other options you mentioned.

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 21:39:50 (permalink)
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A 7 year old thread suddenly brought alive by...?  Get this thing moved to the plugin thread or the coffeehouse.


Afrodrum
indeed, thread better be moved. 



Because that's the level of the people in those sub-forums ? 
 
Must be great to be so superior.
 
 



No. It simply does not belong here.

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/17 23:31:59 (permalink)
Please delete this thread. There's not really a forum it belongs in

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/18 04:03:29 (permalink)
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Please delete this thread. There's not really a forum it belongs in



That does not make the thread irrelevant. It is an unusual case and I think very few music/producer forums (that I frequent at least) have a "software developed by sick demented pedophiles" category. So yes, it is outside of the normal categories. The information in this thread however is relevant to a bunch of people who have Kjærhus software installed. 
 
No. It simply does not belong here.

 
But it did for all the seven years where it actually contained no, zero, information that wasn't speculative? What am I missing here? 
 
A 7 year old thread suddenly brought alive by...

 
Growlingbehemoth is the tag I have chosen to use here an on a few other forums. So it was suddenly brought back to live by Growlingbehemoth. However, since there was new information about Kjaerhus (The thread subject) there was a good reason to necro the thread instead of starting a new one which would have a headline that would be quite hard to make tasteful. Would that have been better? Did you read the new info at all, if so, why the question? 
 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/18 05:22:59 (permalink)
I've read the whole thread as it had been resurrected after 7 years. I still think the thread should be deleted. It seems from all reports, that the persons conduct has been uncovered and punishment has been meted out. I can't see the benefit of it being discussed in the Sonar forum. If it must be here it should be in the Coffee House. Are we to get involved every time an associate of someone who's software we use is convicted of some heinous crime. Perhaps the coffee house but I'm not sure even there.

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/18 06:38:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Sheanes 2017/02/18 07:22:06
I don't think it should be deleted but maybe it's time to lock it.
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/18 06:49:22 (permalink)
agree with Sander.
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/18 09:42:47 (permalink)
Cakewalk product, so belongs here. This question comes up again and again, so thanks the info growlingbeomouth.
 
Locking makes sense, as it's been answered. Can always unlock if he's acquitted 

 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/18 10:12:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2017/02/18 10:21:13
Wow. Just...wow. Never saw this coming.
 
This is certainly unprecedented in terms of forum topics. I'd like to thank growlingbehemoth for solving a mystery that has existed for quite some time, as well as for the measured tone of his (or her) posts. Also, the discussion about the moral implications of using the software is interesting. I agree with (I think it was Ampfixer) that it's a personal choice whether to use it or not. I doubt I'll be using the VC64 (one of my favorite plug-ins) not so much out of principle, but because seeing it will trigger feelings of revulsion and I would prefer not to have those feelings while in a creative space.
 
There are legal issues with Cakewalk adapting or modifying the software if CW doesn't own the rights. But in my ideal world, the solution would be that Cakewalk would make the software 64-bit compatible, sell it for $49, and donate all proceeds to charities that fight human trafficking. That way the product of a pedophile would end up being used for good. 
 
i do agree this thread should be locked, but in a few days. This has been an enduring mystery for so long I'd like to make sure there's an opportunity for people to see it.

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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/18 12:46:07 (permalink)
Unique, wise and positive intervention Craig.
Thanks to this thread also, did small donation to Dutch KIKA foundation (for Children with cancer).

 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/18 15:10:45 (permalink)
How can we be sure that some of these pictures are not embedded within DLL  when we use his software. We could all be at risk from this. Anyway to check beside removing this software?
 
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Re: Anyone know what happened to Kjaerhus Audio? And what does it mean for VC64 Sonar plug 2017/02/18 16:56:54 (permalink)
Anything is possible but the same could go for any other piece of software on your computer. Seems pretty far fetched to me, but again, a personal choice.
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