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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/21 23:12:11 (permalink)
Maybe it's an X3 thing. I use X2 mostly. I'm working on getting a track ready for export. It will take me a while to get my ducks in a row as I'm changing the drums from AD1 to AD2. I'll get back to you.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 09:20:58 (permalink)
I exported everything out as audio wav files and everything works perfectly. I'm not seeing a benefit to ArdourXchange.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 10:31:13 (permalink)
My drums export fine. The guitars and bass are a mess. Wrong order, wrong volumes, freezing doesn't work so I have to bounce down to audio. I would rather export the audio (wav) files and leave Amplitube and Markbass as is. Glad it works for most, but this goes into the regret basket here.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 10:39:02 (permalink)
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My drums export fine. The guitars and bass are a mess. Wrong order, wrong volumes, freezing doesn't work so I have to bounce down to audio. I would rather export the audio (wav) files and leave Amplitube and Markbass as is. Glad it works for most, but this goes into the regret basket here.




Clint, Are you using OMF version 2?

 
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 12:06:43 (permalink)
Yeah, I've tried about everything in the export options. I don't know whats up. I did e-mail about getting a refund...(I haven't registered Xchange) and they are very helpful in that regard. They said it may take a few days. Very high marks for the support from both companies involved.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 12:13:58 (permalink)
Clint's difficulties with this plugin illustrate a benefit to being able to demo something before you buy.  As far as I know, the Mixbus plugins cannot be demoed.  Major drawback, in my book. 
 
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 12:41:30 (permalink)
Omf issues typically (but not always) rooted with the expprting program. Markzano (sp?) and I had a hard time getting the x3 demo project to export as OMF properly. I cannot stress enough that doing anything beyond simple cuts and fades can cause issues. Inserting any vsts or vsti's may lead to more trouble shooting than its worth. Track, trim and export is safest route.
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 12:55:12 (permalink)
I'm guessing it's my fault. I probably have something not setup right for this, but I don't want to change anything major just to get this to work. I remember changing my (freeze settings) so that when I make a change it doesn't revert back to the pre-freeze state. I can't remember how to change that setting, but I like it the way it is...so It doesn't matter if that is the culprit or not. I'm very impressed with everything Mixbus so far. The sound, the stability, the service and the price. Best deal I've got in a very long time.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 13:15:56 (permalink)
If I'm not mistakeni think I ended up doing a massive freeze and bounce of all tracks to get a working OMF file.

I have been playing with mixbus (couldn't pass up the 19.95 even though I'm still not sure if I'm sold on it).
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 14:04:27 (permalink)
Try turning off all the effects, there's a button below the metronome buttons for that, and then try the OMF export.
 
I had a thought also about track order. Is it possible that tracks may be placed in order of where their busses are? I have my project set up so everything is lined up left to right and that holds true for the busses as well and the tracks relationship to the bus. Hopefully that made sense.  

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 14:11:03 (permalink)
Both of the last two suggestions may help. However, I don't want to turn off the effects or undo what I've done in Sonar. I might as well just record in Harrison to begin with. The bus order could be the problem, I'll check that. Thanks for the input guys!

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 14:12:23 (permalink)
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If I'm not mistakeni think I ended up doing a massive freeze and bounce of all tracks to get a working OMF file.

I have been playing with mixbus (couldn't pass up the 19.95 even though I'm still not sure if I'm sold on it).

I'll try this too.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 14:45:53 (permalink)
Clint brings up a good point. One of the reasons I use OMF is because the studio I work at uses logic and I use sonar.
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 16:59:05 (permalink)
Could it be that any midi tracks are trying to get exported and causing some confusion? Maybe a midi track is getting selected along with the audio and causing the confusion. I still have had no problems this far with Xchange.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 17:14:44 (permalink)
I don't know, but none of that worked either. I give up...it's not worth anymore of my time. The midi (EZD2 and AD2) have all exported fine. The guitars and bass are the problem. The tracks being out of order was the export. When I select tracks instead of entire mix they appear there out of order.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 17:17:54 (permalink)
I'm sorry it's not working right, Clint. I haven't installed it yet. I'm hoping it doesn't work like that for me.
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 17:56:14 (permalink)
Good idea Sid. When I did my export, I select everything and them unselected the unused tracks and midi tracks.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 18:35:24 (permalink)
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Good idea Sid. When I did my export, I select everything and them unselected the unused tracks and midi tracks.


Did you select entire mix or tracks? The only midi I had was the EZD2 and AD2. They were frozen. I only have 6 tracks.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 18:36:26 (permalink)
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I'm sorry it's not working right, Clint. I haven't installed it yet. I'm hoping it doesn't work like that for me.

It's not a big deal. I don't think it's a huge pain to export the audio tracks myself.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 19:19:33 (permalink)
At first I selected all the tracks. Then I deselected the tracks I did not want such as the midi and unused tracks. If you mean the export dialog box, I never changed anything there.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 19:22:36 (permalink)
Yeah, the export dialog...is what I meant. Thanks.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 22:49:57 (permalink)
I am having the same problems now. I did manage to get all the audio though. To get all of it I had to freeze every track and delete all extraneous tracks including the midi. (make sure you save a different version) It worked but now there is a new problem. All the audio is in reverse order. LOL! Is it really worth it now? It worked perfectly until I registered it. Go figure.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/22 23:25:02 (permalink)
Just out of curiosity, Maybe you could try moving the tracks around in Sonar before the export. Is it always opening in Mixbus in the same WRONG tracks? You can see in Mixbus where it moved the tracks to and then go back to Sonar and move those tracks to the position you want them to open in Mixbus . Also, have you tried removing the plugins from the FX bin in Sonar after the bounce. Just some suggestions to troubleshoot. I feel guilty now that your having such a problem and I'm not.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/23 08:44:14 (permalink)
You don't have to feel guilty. I didn't have problems until I registered it.
 
TBH, it's too much hassle this way than just importing stems.
 
1. Creating a session in MB is easier because you can create the session in the folder of your choosing rather than starting with an OMF session, saving it and then having to move the folder the location you want.
 
2. Is it really that much easier? Bouncing stems is just as easy as bouncing audio. Also, just as easy to import them rather than open the OMF and have to move the folder.
 
3. You can get a general mix going, as you will when you record anyway, and you'll be there when you import the stems. That goes for EQ settings as well. I like MB's EQ but doing a little sculpting in Sonar with the quadcurve is a nice bonus.
 
4. You have to rename all the tracks since they all import, via OMF, as Audio 1, Audio 2 ETC, You can argue that this is a pain in either method but you don't have to figure them out in MB afterward. I put a number the tracks, preceding it's name, in the order I want them to import. You still have to edit the name in MB but I think it's easier.
 
I can't think of anything else right now but there are probably more. The thing that turned me off right away is that the stereo tracks were not stereo in MB. Maybe I should have bounced the drum tracks rather than freeze them but that's just extra work. At least it was only $15 and not more.
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/23 09:04:01 (permalink)
Sounds like I can save my money. This is a feature that should have been included. OMF is too iffy to charge for a plugin
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/23 09:11:07 (permalink)
On this subject - and I haven't tried this yet. But if anyone has please chime in. I was thinking that since both MB and Sonar can export and import Broadcast Wav files; that would work for me. I have used OMF in the past and it worked. But I think I will try Broadcast Wav files to see if that works for what I want, which in a nutshell is to have the track's names intact and more importantly, lined up properly.
 
I've only had MB a couple of weeks and really like it. So what I was doing was adding empty clips at zero time and then exporting tracks. I just want to get that step out of the process. If this doesn't work, I will probably try the plug.

 
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/23 09:51:50 (permalink)
I, too, have been using broadcast wavs to import in to other DAWs. This plugin seems to be working fine for now. I just don't understand why others are having so much trouble. Of course, with my history the other shoe could hit the floor any time. I am renowned for my bad luck having a delayed fuse. Even if it does import the tracks to different locations I look at it as I have finished my work in Sonar and this phase of mixing and mastering would be different in another program anyway. I apologize to all of you that are having those problems if you went ahead and registered before you could give it a proper testing. For now, I will continue using it and see if I run in to a brickwall eventually.

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/23 09:55:08 (permalink)
Since I am joining this party late ......(Happy Birthday Sidroe! Today is my wife's birthday, so I won't be getting Ardour for her LOL      .... anyway), I appreciate reading through all of this (thread), as I've been considering getting Xchange for Mixbus(which I haven't installed yet, too busy out in the yard/garden/flowerbeds).
    No one has mentioned the advantage of Xchange going from Mixbus to Sonar, so I assume it doesn't add any. I have never done any OMF stuff. I have always exported my stereo mixes to Sound Forge and now would like to stay ITB, but bought the Mixbus for experimenting. I wish I'd gotten the Gverb and Delay deal. It doesn't seem that important to get the Xchange......maybe someone can take this to a new place, but at the moment, I'm not convinced ...yet.
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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/23 13:55:36 (permalink)
Just an update.
 
I exported another OMF. There was a choice between RIFF wav and (I forget the other) just below it. I also checked the box to split stereo tracks to 2 mono. Everything imported In order except for the stereo to mono tracks which were still in order but at the end of the line.
 
Maybe these options have something to do with our difficulties?

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Re: ArdourXchange For Mixbus Flash Sale $15 2014/05/23 14:14:29 (permalink)
When OMF works it can save a lot of time. It takes me seconds to export an OMF from logic that would have taken a long time to render out track by track. Since OMF accounts for dead space, I'm not importing tracks full of empty space which can be a hassle when using processes that average the complete file.
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