The Maillard Reaction
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 09:45:13
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Are you ready for that group hug you were speaking about last week?
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 09:55:32
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Well, just to make it clear EXACTLY how I meant the word "son" in my response to Seth it was as in the Foghorn Leghorn usage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV369kpV4h0 And his response took me quite by surprise. That's the trouble with written posts...they can be interpreted in many ways. Glad to see we're back on track Seth, ol pal.
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 10:05:45
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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I'm not sure you guys understand how updates work. A bug that appeared in QuickFix 255 might very well have been fixed in X1c. Each update is a continuation of the last with new changes/ fixes happening throughout the process. It's not an amalgam of different updates put together, so an issue you experienced in QF255 won't necessarily happen with X1c.
Its also very important to remember that the QuickFixes are not officially tested updates, but rather 'hotfixes' that address very specific issues. If you hadn't experienced the issues listed in a QuickFix's change log then you probably shouldn't use it.
If you're having issues with QF255 then go back to X1b or QF246 (if it addressed issues you were having with X1b).
SP
Seth, thanks for addressing our concerns. The problem is: you say the bug in QF255 might be fixed in X1c, and that an issue experienced in QF255 won't necessarily happen with X1c. But, how do I know for sure? Throughout the 13 years I've used CW software I've always stayed up to date with all the upgrades and have never had a problem like this. If I apply the X1c upgrade and experience the same problems I had with QF255, then I've wasted a lot of time for nothing. That doesn't exactly reassure me. The official information about X1c says that it will address various stability issues, and I hope that's the case. That would be my main reason for using it. However, if it causes the same problems I had with QF255 then my confidence in CW will be shaken as never before. I'm sure I speak for many others.
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 10:07:16
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 11:17:39
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Seems even though Seth and I have "made up" which is evident in posts 44, 47 and 49 that there's still mileage to be made.
Clearly if the mods had thought it belonged somewhere else it would have been moved. Perhaps they should lock it now.
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 12:48:50
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
I've never spent much time in the South and have never heard any Jerry Reed songs (nor do I know who he is). To me, calling someone 'son' is like how you describe calling someone 'boy'. Its like putting them in there place. Obvi0ously, this was lost in translation. 
SP
Jerry Reed ... One of the top 10 greatest country guitar players of all time? He was in Smokey And The Bandit and over a dozen other films? He's from Georgia? Did guitar duets with Chet Atkins, Roy Clark, Glenn Campbell, and many others? Elvis Presley covered a couple of his songs? Sounding familiar yet? I'm 100% sure my colleagues would stick up for me when someone from this forum calls me a derogatory term.
Yeah, I'm sure you're right, but it wasn't a derogatory term. And, they pick and choose who they defend here and don't really moderate fairly. But it is your forum ... you can do what you want. Hell, I've been called a "****", "Moron", "Stupid", told to, "... go ***k myself", had my life threatened, and nobody on your side said a word or did a thing about it. An affectionate term used amongst's friends is used and you start wigging out on the guy? Sure. Ok.
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 13:52:50
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Bubit wasn't a derogatory term "Patronizing" might be more precise. Often considered insulting in any case, and better avoided when addressing anyone with whom you don't have an established personal friendship outside of cyberspace. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=48479736795 Fair Warning: A cartoon image of a gentleman making an obscene gesture is pictured on the page at the above link. Please do not click it if you find such imagery offensive.
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 14:11:39
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ProjectM
Just wanted to ask the OP; since you have that new killer system, howcome you don't install and use Sonar 7 on it? I'm sure you'll have a severe increase in performance. And even if you install the 32-bit version of Sonar 7 you'll be able to jBridge your Choir to use all of your RAM, right? At the same time, you can test out any new X1 patch as well to see if your troubles vanish.
Just my nickles and a dime on it
It's my understanding that Sonar 7 won't run well on a Win7 64 bit system. And even if it did, it is also my understanding that the 32-64 bit bridges don't work all that well...
I guess I might try that though...
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 14:19:06
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
I've never spent much time in the South and have never heard any Jerry Reed songs (nor do I know who he is).
SP
I'm a little surprised! If you can sneak 2 minutes out of a busy day, take in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni8KBhnebwE Not only does it show Jerry's incredible guitar playing abilities, he even addresses Chet with "do it son" at about 1:25 - just to put things in a light hearted perspective.
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 14:33:49
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Bub
Jerry Reed ... One of the top 10 greatest country guitar players of all time? He was in Smokey And The Bandit and over a dozen other films? He's from Georgia? Did guitar duets with Chet Atkins, Roy Clark, Glenn Campbell, and many others? Elvis Presley covered a couple of his songs? Sounding familiar yet?
I think you may have read too many 'Robby' posts?
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 15:56:34
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jsg
ProjectM
Just wanted to ask the OP; since you have that new killer system, howcome you don't install and use Sonar 7 on it? I'm sure you'll have a severe increase in performance. And even if you install the 32-bit version of Sonar 7 you'll be able to jBridge your Choir to use all of your RAM, right? At the same time, you can test out any new X1 patch as well to see if your troubles vanish.
Just my nickles and a dime on it
It's my understanding that Sonar 7 won't run well on a Win7 64 bit system. And even if it did, it is also my understanding that the 32-64 bit bridges don't work all that well...
I guess I might try that though...
Jerry
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Hey Jerry! sorry, I didn't see this reply. This turned out to be a busy thread... so to speak I don't remember now, but wasn't Sonar 7 native 64-bit? But like I said in another thread you posted, it should be possible and you can't really doing anything wrong by installing it. I would hate having a brand new $3000 system just hiding in the corner not using it. If you have problems with Bit-Bridge there's always jBridge to try out and if nothing works you can always do a system restore. It will cost you an hour or so while it installs, and if neccesary, a system restore. However, my guess is that it will install perfectly. But at least you've given your new box a fair chance;)
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 15:56:39
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brundlefly
Bub
it wasn't a derogatory term
"Patronizing" might be more precise. Often considered insulting in any case, and better avoided when addressing anyone with whom you don't have an established personal friendship outside of cyberspace.
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 16:03:05
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"Old Stick" is my diminuitive patronizer of choice...and I don't think I've ever even used that one here on the forum. Just an FYI...brundlefly:-)
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 17:13:41
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Let me tell'ya son.....some of ya'll need to get off that stick that's pokin your butt and instead of always huntin' for chicken'hawks, have a few brewsky's and take a chill pill.....life's short. Lego ma Ego......
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 18:46:42
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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I'm not sure you guys understand how updates work. A bug that appeared in QuickFix 255 might very well have been fixed in X1c. Each update is a continuation of the last with new changes/ fixes happening throughout the process. It's not an amalgam of different updates put together, so an issue you experienced in QF255 won't necessarily happen with X1c.
Its also very important to remember that the QuickFixes are not officially tested updates, but rather 'hotfixes' that address very specific issues. If you hadn't experienced the issues listed in a QuickFix's change log then you probably shouldn't use it.
If you're having issues with QF255 then go back to X1b or QF246 (if it addressed issues you were having with X1b).
SP
Hi Seth... I'm just joining in here (late), but I'm sure you've seen my posts regarding 255... I guess you're mostly correct, but I know there's some small item I wanted from 255 which I can't have because 255 has a wdm driver issue with my card (SSL/Soundscape Mixtreme 192)... So while I hope there's a fix in X1c, I'm missing something and have no certainty the issue has been addressed... Keni
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Re:As disappointing as it is, I had to quit X1b build 255
2011/08/09 19:18:01
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Lynn
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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I'm not sure you guys understand how updates work. A bug that appeared in QuickFix 255 might very well have been fixed in X1c. Each update is a continuation of the last with new changes/ fixes happening throughout the process. It's not an amalgam of different updates put together, so an issue you experienced in QF255 won't necessarily happen with X1c.
Its also very important to remember that the QuickFixes are not officially tested updates, but rather 'hotfixes' that address very specific issues. If you hadn't experienced the issues listed in a QuickFix's change log then you probably shouldn't use it.
If you're having issues with QF255 then go back to X1b or QF246 (if it addressed issues you were having with X1b).
SP
Seth, thanks for addressing our concerns. The problem is: you say the bug in QF255 might be fixed in X1c, and that an issue experienced in QF255 won't necessarily happen with X1c. But, how do I know for sure? Throughout the 13 years I've used CW software I've always stayed up to date with all the upgrades and have never had a problem like this. If I apply the X1c upgrade and experience the same problems I had with QF255, then I've wasted a lot of time for nothing. That doesn't exactly reassure me. The official information about X1c says that it will address various stability issues, and I hope that's the case. That would be my main reason for using it. However, if it causes the same problems I had with QF255 then my confidence in CW will be shaken as never before. I'm sure I speak for many others.
Lynn (and also Keni), I def understand that QF255 has caused you some issues and I sincerely hope that X1c fixes them all. I really do. I don't think you can lose anything by going ahead and installing it and trying it out on your system when its released. However, the logic of not wanting to install X1c because QF255 had a particular bug and said QF is technically a part of X1c just doesn't make sense. That's all I've tried to explain.  So, when X1c is released I would say go ahead and install it and use it. There's no reason to be hesitant to do so. Anyways, I'm locking this thread as its veered way off course. There are plenty of other X1c threads where we can pick up talking about X1c. Thanks for your understanding. SP
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