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2016/01/29 15:06:26 (permalink)

Audio to midi with pitchbend

It seems that it shouldn't be that difficult for Celemony to figure out how to incorporate pitch bend in the audio to midi process. They've already done the heavy lifting.
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Re: Audio to midi with pitchbend 2016/01/29 15:16:00 (permalink)
Supposedly that was a feature of the Studio version of Melodyne, but others would need to confirm functionality.

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Re: Audio to midi with pitchbend 2016/01/30 01:17:13 (permalink)
This was listed in Studio 2, on the comparison table, but since they've changed the table for 4, it's not listed. I hope it's not something they've dropped, as I've ordered today from PlugInDiscouts.

 
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Re: Audio to midi with pitchbend 2016/01/30 09:27:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2016/01/30 10:17:36
Didn't work with Studio4, so I've queried it on the cakewalk thread on Midi conversion
http://forum.cakewalk.com...in-SONAR-m3360593.aspx

 
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Re: Audio to midi with pitchbend 2016/01/30 22:07:32 (permalink)
When I purchased Editor2 I wrote on their forum about them accessing Pitch Bend data, and they replied saying it was part of Studio2. Now nothing is listed and nothing is on help file.
http://helpcenter.celemony.com/hc2-content/melodynestudio4/en/m4tour_savingmidi.html?edition=melodyne-studio&docTypes=anleitung~tutorials~tipps-info&filterCats=audio-zu-midi&lang=en&sort=RELEVANCE&grouped=false&query=&showStartPage=false
 
So I'm guessing they have dropped it, maybe it was problematic in some way. I hope not, because the next step for me would be a some sort of harmonic and volume envelope follower, now they access overtones. This could potentially allow, note, velocity, pitch bend and expression to be transferred, and allow samplers to respond well to audio to midi conversions.
 
I've written to them to check.

 
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Re: Audio to midi with pitchbend 2016/01/30 23:02:42 (permalink)
Is stand-alone mode in Studio 4 the same way if you pull the MIDI from an audio file there?

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Re: Audio to midi with pitchbend 2016/01/30 23:23:26 (permalink)
As far as I can tell, there are 2 ways to transfer the midi. Drag from within Sonar, or open in Stand alone and export as a midi file and open this in Sonar. With both options all I see is note data with velocity in the the event list. No Pitch wheel data.
 
Craig wrote here in 2014 http://www.guitarplayer.com/lessons/1014/converting-guitar-signals-to-midi-data/25356
"If you want to take matters further, Melodyne Editor ($399) does polyphonic note detection, as well as MIDI conversion, and the multitrack Melodyne Studio ($699) has additional MIDI features, such as adding MIDI pitch-bend data for pitch drift and modulation, envelope creation, and velocity curves. However, note that polyphonic conversion to MIDI requires some work to clean everything up. Celemony has posted an informative video about extracting polyphonic MIDI data from guitars on its website’s Help Center."
 
But I see no such options in Stand alone when creating a Midi Export.
 
I'm suspecting it's been dropped.

 
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Re: Audio to midi with pitchbend 2016/01/31 02:59:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2016/01/31 07:25:20
Celemony confirmed, it's been dropped.
 
"Melodyne studio 4 does not offer this feature."

 
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