Authetication USB Keys crashing X1c

Anyone else have issues with Authentication USB keys crashing X1c?  They run the plugins fine until i try to exit the project and create a new one.  No hubs used, just straight into the pc case.  Thanks in advance. :)

ILok and Syncrosoft USB dongles working fine for me w/ X1.

Regards
Glenn

That Ignitionkey?

I hear bad things about that one, but I don't recall exactly what it was. Have you e-mailed Propellerhead to see if there are any known issues with it?

...ooh guys.... 'course I know it's sometimes hard as some needed applications do require dongles....  but....
...if only we NEVER supported those troublesome, annoying "protection" systems.........!

Those companies don't EVEN come to an agreement for a common, once and for all dongle, not to fullfill computers with tons of key and relative drivers..... shameful.....
  
...that's one serious reason why Cakewalk has gotten my loyalty.....
 
 

I agree with you to some extent, John. I'm not a fan of the ILok-Waves way of doing biz.

But OTOH last night i sat up for hours installing and authorizing hundreds of plugins on a new PC. At one point a few years ago, i ran into some tech problems which resulted in me having to reinstall Windows a number of times, and now i'm running into alot of that 'you've exceeded the number of allowed authorizations,' which is more time consuming still.

Dongles were looking pretty good last nite.

It's not like any of the copy protection methods have done much to stop piracy AFAIK.

Regards
Glenn

Windows authorisation you can sort out with a phone call to Microsoft by the way. It's kind of inconvenient, sure, but it only takes a couple of minutes.

I hate Dongles!!!!!! But I had to get one because I couldn't get EWQLSO without it. That library is too big to put on my laptop anyway so it doesn't matter. It stays in my desktop DAW and I have Garritan on the laptop. But I would never depend on moving the dongles from one computer to another, and I would never get a product with a dongle that is known for dodgy drivers that mess up everything else but the one product it's supposed to protect. And I can't even count the times when I've been to a studio and the Dongle is somewhere else, different country, county or both, which amputate the project. A dongle free Sonar has also played a part in keeping me loyal to Cakewalk. That brings me to the Ignition Key thing from Propellerhead. I've heard it does mess up your computer system a lot and I know one guy who threw it in the bin. But apparently Propellerhead have other ways to authorize software through your internet connection... or maybe they ditched that? It could be that Sonar and the propellerdongle start fighting over something - which is seriously bad.

Please show me a cracked version of Record 1.5, Samplitude Pro 11, Yellowtools Independence Pro 2.5 etc.
If you can`t find one, try Cakewalk, maybe easier.

I forgot: http://www.propellerheads...rticle&article=FAQ
Reason 6 will only be available with CodeMeter Stick.

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Yellowtools Independence Pro 2.5 etc. 

Yellowtools dropped the dongle for Independence Pro some time ago. I bought it shortly afterwards

Yes Glyn, that`s why i wrote "2.5". Now you get 3- ELicense Activations with Version 3 and I really hope, you don`t need all of them. Could be a bad surprise. Believe me: The dongle activation was way better. The most user friendly activation of course is serial activation, i totally agree with. 

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Yes Glyn, that`s why i wrote "2.5". Now you get 3- ELicense Activations with Version 3 and I really hope, you don`t need all of them. Could be a bad surprise. . 

Well, I am keeping my fingers crossed but they reset my activations back to zero on request following some computer issues a while back. I have heard Yellowtools slamed for poor service but my experience in this case could not have been better.  BTW 2.5 had had optional ELicensing, that was the first version I ran.
 
Likewise Toontrack were accomodating in issuing extra activations.
 
While Cakewalk has the most convenient licenseing system - THANKS CAKE,  I think NI service centre is pretty good (the odd server glitch excepted). I just run it every so often and download any updates etc. I know a lot of people hate it with a passion however.

@Gothic.Angel - nice to meet you too;) Permanent Internet connection is troublesome for most users. I wonder if they have given up on the totally pro market and attempt to only deal with the people who have one computer for all their needs. Reason has always been a nice instrument for me. I might hop onto the version 5 wagon. I think it comes with a free upgrade to v6 which I can choose not to install. I just hope they upgrade to 64-bit rewire for previoous versions as well! Yeah, the Kong looks awesome!

Alright, good luck Yeah, Reason/record was a pretty cool package. Not to my taste but brilliant none the less for those looking for something like that! It's amazing that Reason 6 will be a unity of the two. But I'll miss Reason as an instrument rack, it's always been my (not so) secret weapon. Well, the tools change and so do we he he. Have fun in the studio. Hope you get to make music and not just be bothered by software troubles

Only started using an iLok a few years ago, earlier this year to get into the EWQL libraries and Pro Tools 9HD and haven't had any issues. In fact, after using one I can now see the reasoning behind their use and what is trying to be achieved. Funny that I couldn't see that while I wasn't using one. a friend persuaded me to take a leap of faith and in all honesty I don't know what the fuss was all about. I'd locked myself out of using useful software because of so called horror stories about the iLok. It's certainly a lot more convenient when doing a reinstallation.

What is a pain is that there's not a standardised system for USB keys but there's not too many standards for so many things this is hardly worth whining about for my money. I mean every DAW software coder uses some proprietory file format that prohibits a universal use across all software. Why, so as to lock everyone else out. If you make all your files Broadcast Waves you disadvantage yourself as you have to render your audio and lose the non-linear, non destructive elements that DAWS are so good at. that to me would be something more important to get involved in a boycott unless a standard file sytem across all programs and all platforms was agreed on.


As to what really prevents Piracy or how on earth you can tell that any one method or another works in the first place I haven't a clue. I do know you can't legislate honesty and it comes down to personal morals.
As far as cost. $49 for a USB dongle (iLok 2) that holds 500 licenses is hardly expensive. Not even the original iLok at 100 licenses for $39 is what I call real expensive.
the argument that they snap off is a load of rubbish as you can put it on a small USB extension cable and that excuse melts away.

As for banding together to boycott companies that use USB copy protection; go ahead if you think it will get you somewhere. In the meantime boycott companies who don't deliver good customer support
I've had no problems with the iLok technology or support at any level yet I have a list as long as my arm about lousy support form companies that dont use dongles.
Just look at the last 8-9 months of complaints about SONAR X1 and the number of people who couldn't even use the software. You're going to find major problmes for a small group of users in just about every area.

The bottom line of course is you don't have to use them or like them.

It's interesting that I shared similar thoughts with you at one stage - now I've got actual first hand experience using the iLok dongle and have changed my mind.

In fact one of the plugin developers I support by buying all their plugins has some plugs that are activated via a challenge response system or voluntarily using the iLok system instead. After having used their Challenge response system for many years I've now converted all my licenses over to iLok and couldn't be happier. It makes reinstallation a breeze as well as running the plugins on several machines with just one license so much easier. It just sits there and doesn't do anything or get in the way.

I'm a regular user and the iLok doesn't annoy me. I don't think you can accuse companies like iZotope of neglecting product development and wasting money by implementing iLok license management. they give their customers a choice. Now why would they change to that model if as you claim it reduces sales and keeps customers away. iZotope in fact is a company that is an example of everything good about the software plugin business. As a company they seem to go from strength to strength in their reputation for innovative quality plugins. BTW I don't have any connection to them except as a customer as I am of many companies; even Cakewalk.

There are many areas that seem to be the subject of "urban myth" and conjecture more so than based in any reality.
Look; I don't doubt there's some bad experiences but then as I said before there's going to be bad experiences in any complex system, whether we're talking about software, the earth's eco-system, our own physiological systems even. All sunject to failure, poor performance, error, failure and disappointment. that's life.

As a poet once wrote about the humble dongle:

Don't let your dingle dongle, dangle in the dirt,
put in your pocket where it won't get hurt;
If you haven't got a pocket, put it in your shirt;
but don't let your dingle dongle, dangle in the dirt.

With proper care, it's possible for your USB dongle not to dangle in the dirt.