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Glyn Barnes Thinking about it the price of beer since the early seventies as increased about 20 fold. New albums were about £3.50. The same inflation would make an album £75 and a single £20
Fair point Glyn. Mind you, I would argue that the real cost of beer in the pubs is what has increased. The price of 'supermarket' (especially canned) beer has probably fallen in real terms. I worked in an off licence when I was 18 and the cost of beer we sold was around the same as the boozer, if not slightly higher. Undoubtedly, the price of supermarket alcohol is one of the reasons for the decline in the pub trade in this country over the last 20 or so years.
While we're on All Our Yesterdays, do you remember buying cans from an 'offy' window at the back of the pub after kicking out time? probably Watneys, maybe Whitbread Trophy or Tankard..or Skol Lager  
Oh yeah Best offy sales I ever experienced was when I was working in a Davenports boozer. Do you remember the old 'Beer at home means Davenports' adverts? The pub I worked in had a consignment of 4-pint plastic containers delivered (they looked just like large pottery cider tankards) and we would pour draught bitter or mild directly into these containers so punters could carry on drinking our fine brews at home (or on the way home!). It was working in this particular boozer that I discovered my love of Indian cuisine (rather ironically, the place is now an Indian/Tibetan restaurant). A couple of the regulars lived over in Malvern and we had a cracking relationship in that to save them a costly taxi fare, I would drive them home after I finished work. In return for the lift, en route we'd make a beeline for the Tandoori restaurant in Malvern Link where they treated me to a meal. It cost them much less than the taxi fare and I got a free feed.... perfick Edit - just remembered that round these parts they used to call the off-licence counter of a pub 'The Outdoor', as in "Nip down the outdoor and fetch me 20 Bennies" Edit 2 - the (real) off licence I worked in actually sold 'draught' sherry (dry and sweet) out of a plastic barrel out back. Customers would roll up with an empty bottle and order sherry (in multiples of half pints) to take home.
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2016/08/09 12:46:49
SteveStrummerUK ... ... ... We need to get you a ticket to Portland. The micro brews thing here is exceptional, and there are so many choices, that you can get dizzy deciding which one to try!
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SteveStrummerUK ... ... ... We need to get you a ticket to Portland. The micro brews thing here is exceptional, and there are so many choices, that you can get dizzy deciding which one to try!
Are we talking ale? Cask conditioned?
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I remember going into a sawmill several years ago and asked for some lengths of 2 x 2 I was told, "we're metric now - you'll have to convert it" So I said ok, can I please have 8 metres of 50mm x 50mm The response was - "oh no, only the cross section is sold in metric, the length is still in Imperial." So I went home with 25 feet of 50mm x 50mm True story.
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Best offy sales I ever experienced was when I was working in a Davenports boozer. Do you remember the old 'Beer at home means Davenports' adverts?
Of course, and without Googling... ''Beer at home means DavenportsThat's the beer, lots of cheerThe finest brew with hops and yeastTurns a snack into a feast'' Do I get a Sad Old Git Badge?
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SteveStrummerUK ... ... ... We need to get you a ticket to Portland. The micro brews thing here is exceptional, and there are so many choices, that you can get dizzy deciding which one to try!
Are we talking ale? Cask conditioned?
Best post by Pedro evah! By that I mean he's spot on. We have more exceptional micro brews in the Portland Metro Area than France has wines. And we're talking EVERYTHING! One of my favorites was the 30th Anniversary Younger's Special Bitter (a Rogue beer). It came in really cool bottles (of which I've saved a couple) or you could also get it straight from the cask at the Horse Brass Pub (which the late Don Younger owned and which has a sister pub, the Prince of Wales, in London). Needless to say I have a soft-spot for the Horse Brass since that's the place I played darts out of and, in only about ten years, I have more of my name on dart accomplishments hanging from the walls than anyone else. 
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Bristol_Jonesey The response was - "oh no, only the cross section is sold in metric, the length is still in Imperial."
Carpet shops sell carpet by the square metre, fair enough. I measure my room in metres and give the dimensions to the salesman to calculate how many square metres I need (I already know the answer but you have to humour them.) This guy is at least 20 years younger than me. He converts my measurments to yards, calculates the number of square yards, then converts back to metres - I kid you not!
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Strummy, I am trying to figure out from your original post whether you prefer metric or whatever you call what we do over here. Cheers, Bert
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Re: BBC & other politically correct media, we're leaving the EU & this nonsense has to sto
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Bert Guy Strummy, I am trying to figure out from your original post whether you prefer metric or whatever you call what we do over here. Cheers, Bert
I think it's meutric in the UK
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Pretty cool, why we should do 'everyday' maths in base 12:
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Bert Guy Strummy, I am trying to figure out from your original post whether you prefer metric or whatever you call what we do over here. Cheers, Bert
I prefer what we're used to really. As I mentioned, if the news mentions a 4000 metre mountain that means nothing to me, I have to work it out into feet to get an idea of how high it is (just over 13,000 feet).
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SteveStrummerUK Pretty cool, why we should do 'everyday' maths in base 12:
He agrees with base 12!
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Science! -> metric Weight (froot 'n' veg) -> imperial (lbs & ozs) Height (people) -> feet and inches Height (buildings, giraffes) -> feet or yards Speed (cars, Usain Bolt) -> mph Area (e.g. internal, flooring etc.) -> sq. feet Area (e.g. fields, counties) -> acres, sq. miles Weight (whales, elephants, your mum) -> tons (imperial) Weight (people) -> stones 'n' pounds Weight (hashish, grass) -> ozs and fractions thereof Volumes (any) -> metric (cubic cm, metres, kilometres) Mars Climate Orbiter -> mixture of metric and imperial -> roflcrash!
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ston Science! -> metric Weight (froot 'n' veg) -> imperial (lbs & ozs) Height (people) -> feet and inches Height (buildings, giraffes) -> feet or yards Speed (cars, Usain Bolt) -> mph Area (e.g. internal, flooring etc.) -> sq. feet Area (e.g. fields, counties) -> acres, sq. miles Weight (whales, elephants, your mum) -> tons (imperial) Weight (people) -> stones 'n' pounds Weight (hashish, grass) -> ozs and fractions thereof Volumes (any) -> metric (cubic cm, metres, kilometres) Mars Climate Orbiter -> mixture of metric and imperial -> roflcrash!
My Mum is offended!
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SteveStrummerUK ... ... ... We need to get you a ticket to Portland. The micro brews thing here is exceptional, and there are so many choices, that you can get dizzy deciding which one to try!
Are we talking ale? Cask conditioned?
Best post by Pedro evah!  By that I mean he's spot on. We have more exceptional micro brews in the Portland Metro Area than France has wines. And we're talking EVERYTHING! ...
I have a couple of friends from the old Pacifier days, that have been brewing things for many years, and they are both really good, and I do not pass up an opportunity to try them ... and I am not a drinker at all! What the old Europe has lost in their wines, is their "individuality", and the great thing about Portland, is that these are all special in their own way, and there is no "commercialism" to ruin the quality of these products, and I think that this is the detail that makes them special. I always thought that wine has lost its luster some 50 years ago. It had already been relying on vintages to show some spark, but in the end, the product itself just was not that great. And you would be hard pressed to say that about these brews all over Portland. It's an issue just deciding where you wanna go each night!
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I much prefer craft English Pale Ales, because I reckon the standard of vodka in Russia has declined since I was never there, ever.
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Do you like Old Speckled Hen James?
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craigb Do you like Old Speckled Hen James?
I do, and also Old Crafty Hen which is a darker ale, about 6.5%, lovely drop.
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craigb Do you like Old Speckled Hen ....?
A lovely drop, one of my favourites in fact. Another favourite, well hopped and full of flavour: Gawd I miss the odd pint of decent ale. It's been four and a half years since a change in medication precluded yours truly from imbibing any alcohol
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@Craig, if you come across any of these, I can personally and heartily recommend a glass or two: - Badgers Tanglefoot (so called by the brewer who created this delectable ale when subsequently discovering its adverse effects on his ability to walk in a straight line!)
- Adnams Broadside (full of flavour dark ale)
- Wells Waggle Dance Honey Beer (extremely quaffable)
- Green King Abbot Ale (very smooth)
- Wychwood Hobgoblin Ale (as James would say, "very noice")
- Shepherd Neame Bishops Finger (goes well with Stinking Bishop cheese ........ probably)
- Shepherd Neame Spitfire Ale ("The 'Bottle' Of Britain")
- Timothy Taylor's Landlord Strong Pale Ale - (good 'session' beer)
- Sharps Doom Bar - (named after a Cornish sand bank)
- Marston's Pedigree Pale Ale (a delicious variation on their famous draught Pedigree beer)
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- Sharps Doom Bar - (named after a Cornish sand bank)
That's my current favourite, lovely stuff. Have to wait until I can get to Morrisons in Stranraer (25 miles away) for it though.
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- Sharps Doom Bar - (named after a Cornish sand bank)
That's my current favourite, lovely stuff. Have to wait until I can get to Morrisons in Stranraer (25 miles away) for it though.
Our local Morrisons has a great selection of decent bottled ales mate. They put Sainsbury and Tesco to shame on that front.
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2016/08/13 14:50:44
BobF Bars started declining here when our society got serious about impaired driving.
Combine this with the 'liquid lunch' becoming unacceptable in the workplace, supermarket pricing for drinks, and people living further and further away in the suburbs from where they work in the city and furhter away from their friends/workmates.
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Yeah but, the US customary system has one set of units for fluids and another set for dry goods. The imperial system has only one set defined independently of, and subdivided differently from, its US counterparts. The Winchester measure was made obsolete in the British Empire but remains in use in the US. The American colonists adopted a system based on the 231-cubic-inch wine gallon for all fluid purposes. This became the US fluid gallon. Note that one avoirdupois ounce of water has an approximate volume of one imperial fluid ounce at 62 °F (16.67 °C). This convenient fluid-ounce-to-avoirdupois-ounce relation does not exist in the US system. So whilst the imperial gallon, quart, pint and gill are about 20% larger than their US fluid measure counterparts, the fluid ounce is about 4% smaller. Many Canadian brewers package beer in 12-imperial-fluid-ounce bottles, which are 341 mL each. American brewers package their beer in 12-US-fluid-ounce bottle, which are 355 mL each. This results in the Canadian bottles being labelled as 11.5 fl oz in US units when imported into the United States. Because Canadian beer bottles predate the adoption of the Metric System in that country, they are still sold and labelled in Canada as 341 mL. Canned beer in Canada is sold and labelled in 355 mL cans, and when exported to the US are labelled as 12 fl oz. then there's Celsius, centigrade and Fahrenheit. And don't even get me started on the English language. Even our meters... metres? are different.... just sayin'.
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Do you actually notice the difference between 341 mL and 355 mL, especially after drinking a few cans?
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soens Yeah but, the US customary system has one set of units for fluids and another set for dry goods. The imperial system has only one set defined independently of, and subdivided differently from, its US counterparts. The Winchester measure was made obsolete in the British Empire but remains in use in the US. The American colonists adopted a system based on the 231-cubic-inch wine gallon for all fluid purposes. This became the US fluid gallon. Note that one avoirdupois ounce of water has an approximate volume of one imperial fluid ounce at 62 °F (16.67 °C). This convenient fluid-ounce-to-avoirdupois-ounce relation does not exist in the US system. So whilst the imperial gallon, quart, pint and gill are about 20% larger than their US fluid measure counterparts, the fluid ounce is about 4% smaller. Many Canadian brewers package beer in 12-imperial-fluid-ounce bottles, which are 341 mL each. American brewers package their beer in 12-US-fluid-ounce bottle, which are 355 mL each. This results in the Canadian bottles being labelled as 11.5 fl oz in US units when imported into the United States. Because Canadian beer bottles predate the adoption of the Metric System in that country, they are still sold and labelled in Canada as 341 mL. Canned beer in Canada is sold and labelled in 355 mL cans, and when exported to the US are labelled as 12 fl oz. then there's Celsius, centigrade and Fahrenheit. And don't even get me started on the English language. Even our meters... metres? are different.... just sayin'.
Interdasting! Personally when I buy barley pops I go for 500ml "tallboy" cans of Bavarian Purity Law type stuff (surprisingly cheaper than domestics and sooooo much better). These pour quite nicely and pretty much to the top of a standard pint glass (or at least I think they are proper "pint" glasses... my collection were given to me by bar owner buddies and I only have a few). Now though a lot of these "tall boys" are being shipped out as 440ml and another slightly larger measure that escapes me right now. I'm guessing to save on fuel costs (just like all our foodstuffs packaging getting smaller but still costing around the same... SCAM). Of course these "Import" cans have a whole slew of wacky liquid volume measurements printed on them. lulz... hoomans can't agree on nuffin'.
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soens And don't even get me started on the English language. Even our meters... metres? are different.... just sayin'.
UK English retains some spellings that originate in French. US English doesn't. We both know what each other means. Most of the time.
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soens And don't even get me started on the English language. Even our meters... metres? are different.... just sayin'.
UK English retains some spellings that originate in French. US English doesn't. We both know what each other means. Most of the time.
What did he say?
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