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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 15:19:45 (permalink)
Hi Keebo,

Funny you should mention this... As I was experimenting adding AJs surface to Sonar I did have a hickup with something like this. Again I am only using XP Pro 32 bit. I though I had everything working and was playing around with the surfaces and then had a problem where the BCR was not working and then saw that the bcr2000control was not assigned. So, I tried to reassign it and when I clicked OK, the dialog refreshed, but the bcr2000control was still blank (even though I assigned to the BCR2000 ports).

I tried a few more times and bit the bullet and went radical and reimaged my machine with an image I took just before I started playing around. Then reinstall AJs surface and everything was working again. That was over the weekend, so I am not sure if it was a glitch, or a button combination I hit, or something else. I'm going to keep playing around to see it it shows up again (I am working a project and backing things up as I go) hopefully it was just a glitch.

If that sounds like your problem, you might want to try to reimage - not a great solution, and a bit tedious, but it got me back alot quicker than trying to troubleshoot (about 20 minutes start to finish).

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 15:27:11 (permalink)
Thank you for your help guys, I really appreciate it.

gibsongs, I must have missed the bit (sorry FBB :-) ) about you being on XP 32 bit.  I was lucky enough to have it working on my old XP system too.

I am emarrassed to say that even though I believe in backing up I still have not bought an imager for such purposes.  So I will have to figure it out the hard way it seems.

Thanks.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 16:05:32 (permalink)
maybe I put 32bit *.dll - sht. I will make another package, OK?

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 16:11:32 (permalink)
HERE's the link to 32 AND 64 bit version of A.J. Mayo BCR Control Surface.

http://www64.zippyshare.com/v/37350628/file.html

32bit tested on Win XP 32bit Sonar 8.5.3
64bit tested on WIN7/64 Sonar X1Pr 64

64bit plugin converted by Andy Davis
post edited by adrian4u - 2011/03/28 16:13:44

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 16:13:07 (permalink)
Adrian,

I just looked again in the bcr2000-1.2-64bit folder and see that the bcr2000control.dll file was not included in the zip file.

Thank you for your time and effort.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 16:15:13 (permalink)
now's OK I hope :)

Previously I did little "add and change" into ZIP file, so maybe it's a reason.

In the link above you have 2 versions.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 16:15:26 (permalink)
OK, I see the file in the new upload.  I'll try it momentarily.

Thank you Adrian.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 17:07:28 (permalink)
Well, I guess I'm doing something wrong or my PC just will not cooperate.

I deleted all of the older bcr2000control.dll files on my PC (I had few of them scattered about as well as backups).  I installed the new 64 bit plugin and opened X1 only to find an endless loop error message causing a complete Sonar crash resulting in a reboot since Sonar will not end properly in the Windows Task Manager.  Here is the message:

"Unable to invoke console.  Re-register it by double-clicking on the prjBCR2000Console.exe file and then try again."

I forgot I had to register that file as well so I registered it and the same thing happens each time.

Looking through the release notes I see I may need to unregister both files an try again through the command line.

If this doesn't work I'll try to customize ACT again.  Perhaps I can get it to remember settings this time.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 18:53:54 (permalink)
Just a heads up.

I was unable to unregister per the instructions so I had to *gasp* delete all instances of prjbcr2000console in the registry.  It took several attempts but I can finally open X1 now without the endless loop crash.

Anyone wanting to install this on their 64 bit machine be forewarned.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 20:29:37 (permalink)
So, Keebo, did you ever get it to work ?  I tried and received the same message that you got.  I then went to the command line interface and typed  "regsrv32 /u bcr2000control.dll"     to unregister the file and that fixed the problem of Sonar not loading.  Then I ran the install.cmd program again, and Sonar started.  I thought I had it working then, but when I added the bcr2000control to my control surfaces, I again got the message stating that it was unable to invoke the console.  I wonder if anyone has got this to work in 64 bit and if so, what am I doing wrong ?

Thanks
Ron

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 20:48:07 (permalink)
Ron, no I decided that I would just delete everything involving that plugin after having to dip into the registry to get Sonar to open again.  I really don't like going there but it was the only way to omit that message.

I have a BCF2000 that works fine in Mackie mode and the BCR2000 plugin was kind of redundant.  I had hoped to see if I could use it as a starting point for other purposes.

I think it is not quite ready for 64 bit prime time even though I appreciate all of the efforts of the authors.  Perhaps someone who has had luck with it will be able to help you.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 21:32:24 (permalink)
Hi Keebo,

I seem to recall I ran into the same problem with the re register error when I opened Sonar. Again my out was to just fall back and reimage the system drive. I feel your pain! So I take it that the 64 bit version of AJs plugin is incorrect or not available? I would still like to stow it some place in my backup files for the time when I do go to 64 bit.

Take care,

g
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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/28 22:58:51 (permalink)
gibsongs


Hi Keebo,

I seem to recall I ran into the same problem with the re register error when I opened Sonar. Again my out was to just fall back and reimage the system drive. I feel your pain! So I take it that the 64 bit version of AJs plugin is incorrect or not available? I would still like to stow it some place in my backup files for the time when I do go to 64 bit.

Take care,

g


    g,

I wouldn't blame you for keeping it on file for a later date.  It is quite possible that I did something wrong or that my PC just didn't like it.  Regardless, I am glad to have all of that hassle out of the way.

Good luck.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/29 15:45:06 (permalink)
Well, guys - I don't get the clue.

I had 32bit version, and - I had a problem with disappearing MIDI in-out in Control Surface manager.
After Andy did his compilation and I re-installed plugin using install.cmd, and, offcourse - aplying SYX file to BCR - I have no problems. And it was working with X1a Pro 64bit and it works with X1b Pro 64bit.
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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/30 03:37:49 (permalink)
GUYS - FOR M - IT WORKS....

" Re:BCR2000 Control Surface Source Code Date Sent March 21, 11 7:45 AM From AndyDavis To adrian4u http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/80663068/file.html

See thread for details, this is just the surface portion.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/30 08:22:06 (permalink)
Is there a 64 bit version for BCF2000 (faders)?

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/03/30 08:53:18 (permalink)
The Mackie control plugin that comes with sonar 64 bit is such a one.
You need to put the bcf into McSo mode to use it however.
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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/28 09:05:50 (permalink)
Does anyone have the 64bit file?

All links are dead now, and AJ's is 32bit :)

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/28 13:25:51 (permalink)
Hang on Snoopy,

Coming very pretty soon:

A in-line MutiUnit (up to 5 'prolly) Prochannel and Sonar mixer strip controllin' 32 and 64 bit BCR2000 plug. With an elastic, shifting (for big and small monitors) up to prolly 48 track scribble strip and on board BCR2000 backup and setup facilities too. Works along side the bcf2000 under Sonar Mackie plug for a kickin wide layout.

With less than 5 units, the plug auto slides the BCR2000(s)  left and right through the tracks so they are always focused on the track you are controlling in sonar and can manually be shifted left or right also. All the units,1 2 3 4 or five all talk to each other and all shift in concert together for you.

80% or so done, - Totally ****in'.

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post edited by bitman - 2011/07/28 23:08:13
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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/29 05:24:43 (permalink)

 
 

I got a bit impatient, for sure :)
 
Is it any way I could help, Ron?
 
Testing? Paypal donation? Hell, I'll even fly over to get it!
 

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/29 08:49:54 (permalink)
Could someone repost the x64 version of Aj's plug please?

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/29 11:52:37 (permalink)
ditto!  i'd gladly send you a paypal donation for this.  my bcr2000's been sitting lonely here!
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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/29 14:32:44 (permalink)
There will be an official announcement here when it's ready for the wild.
It is so rich that I plan to put up a video of how it all operates.

I will need a beta tester or two then.

The requirements are: You run Sonar X1 Producer and have one or more bcr2000s you would like to put into play.

I am finishing up the backup / setup facility and need to test some of the scribble strip viewport functions across various monitor sizes to make sure everything is working as expected.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/29 14:41:50 (permalink)
Wow Bitman, sounds like you have been busy! Great news!
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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/29 16:28:07 (permalink)
Yeah. One thing led to another......
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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/30 11:53:07 (permalink)
bitman


There will be an official announcement here when it's ready for the wild.
It is so rich that I plan to put up a video of how it all operates.

I will need a beta tester or two then.

The requirements are: You run Sonar X1 Producer and have one or more bcr2000s you would like to put into play.

I am finishing up the backup / setup facility and need to test some of the scribble strip viewport functions across various monitor sizes to make sure everything is working as expected.

:Ron
hey ron,



i'd like to beta test it for you.  i'm running x1-64 on win 7 with dual monitors so it might be a good test.

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Re:BCF2000 and BCR2000 users? 2011/07/30 12:47:23 (permalink)
Hi this is my first message in the forum.  I just bought 2 bcr2000 and a bcf2000 on ebay.  I got one of the bcr's the a couple days ago and a the others are on the way.  I run win7 64 bit and sonar x1 producer. I I have been reading about aj s plugin but It made me kind of sad that it was only 32 bit.  I was just thinking yesterday that I might have wasted my money.   So this is great news Ron.  I would gladly make a donation also.  
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Re: 2011/07/30 12:47:26 (permalink)
OOPS!! I accidentally posted the message twice and cant delete it.  
post edited by CrossroadsWhite - 2011/07/30 12:50:52
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Re: 2011/08/01 07:14:49 (permalink)
Would be no problem to beta test, but I only have one BCR2000. I use a Presonus Faderport (for now) for the other controls :)


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Re: 2011/08/01 08:45:20 (permalink)
I can do some testing - I have two BCFs working with XP Pro (SP3) and have a third on its way this week (I also have a BCR). They run in X1 but with limited capabilities and would like to get better control over the plugins and Pro Channel. Let me know when a beta is available.

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