Sorry for the first lame attemp.....this should be better.

Cheers

Paul

http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r108/ninefivemal/BCF2000%20Folder/

Thanks Billy

Hi again FBB, now there is an interesting point, I am not at my DAW at the mo, probably wont be again until tomorrow, BUT, thats definately worth a look.  Also, that might have been my fault in my rush to get the pics up again. 

I will report back whence I have checked.  Damn me! 

I hope after all this it is a simple as not having the track hilighted with the WAI.

FastBikerBoy


They are much better. I haven't abandoned the thread I just haven't had much to add as yet.

First thing I've noticed is on the 3rd image - the BCFview shows you as being on track 14 which is the active track and "No-plugin" yet the WAI strip isn't showing on that track. Whether that's relative or not is another matter, I'm not at my DAW but certainly doesn't seem right to me. May Billy can confirm that when he's in vampire mode. 

This anomaly is also evident in the other shots where your BCFview scibble strip is reading "SSD", "Kick", "Snare" etc etc yet your active track is track 14 "Intro riff" again with no WAI beside it - that definitely seems wrong to me.

I'm sorry I have no answers but it seems strange that the WAI isn't showing on the active track but the BCFView is showing it. It almost seems to me like Sonar thinks you are on a different track to where the BCF thinks you are. Why is a different matter though.

Funny you mention this track selection ....  it's the first thing I noticed as well.   It "looked" like the track was not the 'active' track with the BCF WAI not being on it properly as well.
But I can't confirm until I get to my DAW later.
 

FastBikerBoy


STinGA,

Have you tried changing USB cables just to eliminate one of the causes of communication problems between unit & Sonar?

I just got a chance to look at his pictures again.  the WAI on the left side of the tracks does not appear.  So that's a problem.   IOW, I don't see any sign that the BCF is actually controlling those tracks.

It's possible he's in BUS mode and the WAI is down there, but that would also be why he's not seeing any response to the EQ.

PAUL - if you read this - do you understand what I'm pointing out about the WAI on the left side of the tracks?

No difference with the WAI on track - I was sure I hadn't been doing that.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r108/ninefivemal/BCF2000%20Folder/WAIVisible.jpg

here's another snippet for you......

It makes no sense at all.

I have tried using a different USB port as well, just incase there was a conflict on that particular one.  Sadly not.

cheers.

STinGA


and...... I can control the very same plugin using P1. mode.  for some reson its just the damned EQ mode ...GRRRR
 
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r108/ninefivemal/BCF2000%20Folder/P1mode.jpg

The only other thing I can think of - is that you have the wrong "Mackie Control" preset selected.

with the mouse, absolutely, just the BCF.  Unfreezing the track makes no difference,

Interestingly in P1 mode - No plugin.  However it does see it if I go into Edit > P1 mode as shown in the last pic.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r108/ninefivemal/BCF2000%20Folder/P1mode-Nopluggin.jpg 

Yup a bit frustrating.  I take comfort in the fact I can still use the EQs in various other modes .....just not in the Track EQ mode.

All of yours & Billys posts have been very helpful so far, no need for any apologies, I am just grateful somebody has the patience to try and sort this out with me.

I agree, GlblBy I am guessing means just what you said I have no idea why its there.  That is the instant screen shot straight after hitting P1 mode - I am wandering if I might need to reinstall Sonar, just trying to think if there are any pitfalls to doing it?  I guess I should be able to uninstall, leave the VST folder, reinstall, rescan VST's and then all good - does that seem right to you?

I'm in no rush, so I shall indeed wait to see if our resident "vamp" has any further input before I go doing a reinstall.

Have a great day over in the east, hope it better weather than here in Hants. :-)

That's what I'm referring to when I say it isn't right. P1 *always* refers to the EQ, the first fx in the fxbin is P2.

Therefore if you have P1 selected the BCFView should be displaying parameters for the EQ, *not* the first plugin.

Logic tells me that if you've changed the BCF that rules that out. So assuming the problem is within Sonar a setting somewhere or re-install looks the likeliest problem/cure.

BUT, I now have a massive bombshell, so I took the plunge and reinstalled Sonar his afternoon, and guess what......................... no blinking difference!.... I'm dumbfounded!

 
It's too bad we're in such different time zones and places or I'd say let's jump on the phone and work this through.
 
However, as repetitive as this may seem, I suggest RE-watching the BLADES videos.   Those help me "grasp" how the BCF generally functions.   Watching it more than once worked good for me, so perhaps it might for you.
 
I'm suspecting just a misunderstanding on how it should work more than a setup problem unless something is really screwy with your configuration.
 
FWIW, I tend to use a lot of 3rd party EQ these days, though I DO use the Sonitus inline EQ often as well.  So I don't really spend much time using the BCF to tweak my EQ anyway.   But having a feature and not getting it to work is frustrating, so I understand how this is probably driving you nuts.
 
There's got to be SOME answer to this, I just don't know what else to suggest other than re-reading, re-watching everything, Paul.
 
If you have more questions that I can help with, I'm glad to do so.   Just keep digging in.  Something will pop I hope.
 
 

STinGA


Thanks Billy,

I resigned myself that this small aspect of the BCF isn't going to work with my setup.  But, thanks for trying its much apppreciated what you and FBB have tried to do.

I have watched Blades video over and over and am happy that I know what I am doing, there seems to be some sort of conflict in my system that won't allow this to happen.... Oh well.

Its not life and death, Its not like I cant use it fully in Plugin mode so thats what I will do for now.

Many, Many thanks to you both, I shall not waste your time further with this..... Closed - case unsloved.
Paul

Paul,
You're welcome.
But I hate unsolved mysteries LOL
 
 

Hi George,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.  Yup, as you observed we have covered a lot of ground on this one, and therefore when I saw your reply I got myself all excited as all my projects have archived tracks.

In one project I have deleted the said tracks now, sadly, it still wont play, but, I do appreciate your input - Thanks.

Paul

It would be really interesting to find out if anyone is using a BCF with a Studio version of Sonar without your problems just to rule that out. I can't believe that's the issue but it really doesn't make any sense to me at all.

I hate being defeated as well........