Back with another vVocal crash solution.

+1 to this, and I would say do the same with Melodyne too.
 
I've not generally had issues with region effects using the same version of Cakewalk/SONAR, but opening up an older project (i.e. created with an older version of SONAR) with active region effects can be a bit hit and miss.
 
So I try to avoid active region effects as much as possible. If I'm editing anything region-effect based, I do my edits, bounce-to-clips and save. 
 
M.

I have the vocal.dll in my vstplugs folder, but it never shows up after a scan (using CWBL). Oh well...  I used to use it.  Alas...

Good discovery! I'll try it also. I've found CbB far better than any recent Sonar Plat for handling V-Vocal, significantly fewer crashes. 
 
My template has Ivory piano and Superior Drummer, which are memory hogs. if I'm using 32-bit Splat, I'm pretty much at max RAM usage. I've used 64 bit Splat for about 2 years now, so the RAM should not affect V-Vocal in 64 bit, but yet it does. I have a feeling since V-Vocal i so old that it assumes we're still operating at 32 bit.

 
I've found that my secret recipe is to disconnect or freeze all soft synths first and then use V-Vocal. For years I've always worked with small 1-2 bar clips and immediately bounce after tuning that clip. With CbB I haven't gotten the dreaded crash that doesn't close Splat completely, forcing you to reboot. Fortunately I never get those sorts of crashes any more.
 
When I do get a crash, I quickly double click on the CWP file and I'm back up and running in about 10 sec, since I have an SSD HD. Sometimes I get a blank V-Vocal window, if so I close CbB and double click the CWP file and I'm up and running with no blank window.
 
This method of bouncing the clip before using V-Vocal to me shows that it is some sort of out of memory issue and this also makes me wonder if I can use this new method and not have to disconnect or freeze my soft synths. I'll give it a try.

BTW, in Splat my vVocal would always load into the Multidock with half the window showing. To get the whole thing visible I had to remove it into it's own window. Was told this is because vVocal wasn't really supported in Splat.
 
It must be supported in CbB because it loads fine into the Multidock there.

FWIW can someone post a link to some crash dumps for this? I'm pretty sure that the problem is in VVocal which Roland stopped updating 10 years ago. However I can look at it afresh and see if there is something I can do to circumvent.

bitman
@soens: I drag the bottom of the multidock down to expose more. it's faster, clip after clip.
Actually I'm so happy to see it and not the crash dialog. That said, the multidock sucks and is penalizing but that's not a popular notion.

In my case the vV window was missing the lower half or the right side. But now that I have CbB installed I can't reproduce this issue in Splat. It now works properly in both versions. Maybe it was a video card issue.

bitman
@soens: I drag the bottom of the multidock down to expose more. it's faster, clip after clip.
Actually I'm so happy to see it and not the crash dialog. That said, the multidock sucks and is penalizing but that's not a popular notion.

How is  the multidock penalizing for you? I always have multidock minimized as a long horizontal bar at the bottom of the Trackpane. When I open V-Vocal region the first time I load a song, it appears in the multidock, but it's minimized and useless, until I simply double click on it
 
 It then opens into a window that takes up the whole screen pretty much. I do my editing in the window, click the X on the bottom to close the window and then bounce the clip. The next time I open a V-Vocal region the window opens fully. So for me it works just fine in the multi-dock.

You can drag anything out of the multi-dock if you don't want it docked.

Noel, I've PMed you a download link for one of my vVocal crashes.
I don't see it in the sent PMs so I did it twice. So I don't know if you got the PM ok or not.

vVocal may be long in the tooth but to get the same functionality with melodyne you have to pony up.
It does great things.

Letterman, equipped with modern tech/smaller fonts so that his sweater now holds three letters, swooped in and changed "Geriatric" to "Germanic"!

[Only select generations will get that though.]

bitman
I like the flattening pitch drift, the vibrato, the way you can just free hand the pitch envelope.
And that's just for starters.

I agree, I tried melodyne and it was impressive in some ways, but I just kept missing the V-Vocal total control we have. I love the format also, it fixes many problems. I hope Noel can fix the crashing problems, i think it has to do with memory allocation. Give it access to more RAM and that may fix it

Nothing useful unfortunately. The stack isn't even in the CbB context so its some internal issue within VVocal we have no control over.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Nothing useful unfortunately. The stack isn't even in the CbB context so its some internal issue within VVocal we have no control over.

Too bad, thanks for trying. Yet I must say V-Vocal is much better with CbB in the sense that I'm not getting those sorts of crashes where the EXE would hang and required a computer reboot. Now when I get a crash, I can quickly double click the CWP file and I'm up and running in about 10 or so sec. 
 
I want to thank you for whatever you did to make CbB more compatible with WIN 10, someone mentioned this in another post. I assume you're the one that fixed this hanging problem requiring a reboot too. 
 
After using CbB for a month and a half with all the current WIN updates, there's no doubt that it's far more stable for me than Splat, so thank you and all the team that's responsible. 

This thread has me missing v-vocal again. Still using final version of Splat. Any thoughts on 1)wisdom of trying to install v-vocal from X2 onto a system w/Splat? 2) suggestions for how to go about doing this? Thinking i might like to have v-vocal working, warts and all, before installing CWBL. (I lost v-vocal at some point when I built a new DAW. I have Melodyne studio and it’s great, but like others here, I recall that v-vocal had some special sauce of its own). Thx!