Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3)

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/01 14:21:30 (permalink)
Sometimes you just have to pull all the faders down and start again.
 
Better much better but when I look at it through SPAN there seems to be a general roll off down from 800Hz then the bottom end rolls off real steep at about 60 to 80Hz.  Which confirms for me that whilst there is a lovely slap to the kick, which is very present when I turned down to compose this, there is still no weight from the kick sits in that 70Hz region.
 
Sorry my friend it is good and it is better but to my furry ears it is not quite a Carling.
 
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/01 16:31:52 (permalink)
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Sometimes you just have to pull all the faders down and start again.
 
Better much better but when I look at it through SPAN there seems to be a general roll off down from 800Hz then the bottom end rolls off real steep at about 60 to 80Hz.  Which confirms for me that whilst there is a lovely slap to the kick, which is very present when I turned down to compose this, there is still no weight from the kick sits in that 70Hz region.

 
By 'eck them furry ears are well tuned mate
 
I just checked my drum bus and there's a High Pass on there, instead of the EQ curve that was loaded with the Pro Channel preset I started out with - I must have been buggering around at some stage and forget to switch it back after
 
Anyway, after I turned it off, I checked out the results in Span, and you were absolutely spot on Wook - I've now got a peak back at around 70Hz (this is taken off the master bus with the kick soloed):
 

 
 
 
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Sorry my friend it is good and it is better but to my furry ears it is not quite a Carling.
 
(Though I suspect you may be either an IPA or a Newky Brown man)

 
LOL - if anything, it's you who deserves a pint mate
 
Here's the latest version with the kick adjusted: REMIX #3
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/02 12:19:24 (permalink)
Err is there something missing in this mix or do I need to adjust the vocal filters on my furry ears.
 
PS the Kick has some nice weight now

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/02 17:14:59 (permalink)
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PS the Kick has some nice weight now



Cheers mate, and thanks for spotting that!
 
 
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Err is there something missing in this mix or do I need to adjust the vocal filters on my furry ears.

 
"Oh Bollocks" is a much overused phrase...
 
Off to unmute the Vocals Bus and mixdown again now Wook
 
 
And....... REMIX #3
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/03 10:28:55 (permalink)
I like it.
Drums and bass could be louder, but that may be because I can't hear well.

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/03 11:09:13 (permalink)

 
Nuff said

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/03 17:23:27 (permalink)
Definitely much better. Good job.
 
Your singer sounds much better, and has some punch now, which fits the song IMO. 
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/03 18:29:44 (permalink)
Sounds good Steve. I listened at a low volume. It all cuts through real nice.
I still don't understand why it's gotta be so loud though. I think it's way louder than any commercial release. Which, actually in this day and age is quite the accomplishment. Which leads to,,,,,,,, How'd you do that? Hire Bapu?
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/08 13:16:44 (permalink)
 
Sorry I'm a bit late with these...
 
Many thanks to Mark, Bob S, and to my old pals Greg and Bob O for all your kind words and helpful comments!
 
And extra thanks to Robby for the great advice on the vocals, and to my furry friend Wookiee for the indispensable help on the EQ
 
 

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/08 13:32:12 (permalink)
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Sounds good Steve. I listened at a low volume. It all cuts through real nice.
I still don't understand why it's gotta be so loud though. I think it's way louder than any commercial release. Which, actually in this day and age is quite the accomplishment. Which leads to,,,,,,,, How'd you do that? Hire Bapu?



Thanks Tim!
 
To be honest, I'm not sure why it's that loud.
 
With the FX Bin in my master bus switched off, I was just getting the occasional peak hitting 0dB. The only effects I have in there are a little multiband compression (Sonitus Multiband - Vintage Soft Master setting), a touch of stereo expansion (BX Shredspread - set at 110%), and some brick wall limiting (PSP Vintage Warmer 2 - Mix Finalise 3 setting) as the last plug in the chain.
 
Here's the master bus with everything turned on, as you can see, there's plenty of room in there for it to breathe:
 

 
 
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LOL! That's not me Tim, it's my old mate Sid Strummer. You'd know if it was me singing, believe me
 
Funny thing is, Ed gave me some tips on processing his vocals, and he actually said he sounded a bit like him!
 
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/12 19:52:48 (permalink)
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/16 13:07:35 (permalink)
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/19 21:14:40 (permalink)
A brave cover of a lesser well-known track from what I consider to be their golden era of the early to mid 70's.
 
There was a cohesive synergy between Alan Lancaster who's bass-lines always seemed to have a lagging 'shuffle' feel to them, John Coghlan was super tight and nailed everything completely together with Rick Parfitt providing the foundation of the guitar wall with Rossi providing simple but effective melodies over the top.
 
I was there at one of the 'Piledriver' gigs I don't remember where but within a matter of seconds of them starting everyone was standing to their seats heaving to this relentless 'me neh, me nah, me neh, me nah' type rhythm.  Every seat in that house was destroyed within the time it took them to play the first track.  Not by malice or ill-intent either just the sheer force of a bunch of humanity being instantly whipped up into having a really good time.
 
They we're an unstoppable force during that time and you could not keep still once they got going.  They became more commercially succesful later on but for me by the time 'Rocking all over the World' came out they'd lost 2 thirds of that magic.
 
This cover reclaims something of that magic they themselves lost years ago, but I'd like to hear a little more cohesion between the component parts, this vocal is also good enough I think giving it some more prominence by use of EQ around the 1k and 3k areas will get it competing with the rest, it's a pretty quiet vocal on the orginal so again I think it's just a case of getting to gel tonally with the rest of the track a little more.
 
A great attempt though and the performances are cooking.
 
btw....noisy bugger!...
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/19 21:29:26 (permalink)
Good job guys but it needs more drums!

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/20 08:32:48 (permalink)
This rocks.  I know of the Status Quo, mainly from their hit song Pictures of Matchstick Men.... not much beyond that hit.
 
Sounds like you covered this well.

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/23 13:12:27 (permalink)
 
Thanks for the kind words Herb and Jimmy, I really appreciate it.
 
JB, I'm with you 100% on the early stuff and when they lost their way. The Quo Live double album was a watershed release without a doubt - nothing they've done since then really has the same balls of the 'heads down no nonsense mindless boogie' of the Frantic Four.
 
Did you see that Rossi and Parfitt recently reunited with Coghlan and Lancaster for a series of gigs? I tried to get tickets for the show at Wolverhampton Civic Hall but they were sold out in minutes! They advertised an extra date there but that sold out in minutes too. Just a pity it wasn't a permanent arrangement to reform.
 
And many thanks for you usual excellent pointers and observations on the song mate.
 
 

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/23 21:04:47 (permalink)
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/24 07:28:19 (permalink)
Listening on my lappy it sounds like it's hitting a limiter pretty hard and the drums seem a bit buried. Can tell it was mixed by the guitarist, if you know what I mean. Make of that what you will, might just be the curse of the laptop speaker.
 
Don't know the tune at all, but vocals I aside I could believe it was SQ, so I guess you did a good job replicating their sound.
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/24 10:50:37 (permalink)
Como esta, how ju bean, buddy?  Nice to hear you rocking.  Everything sounded like it should for this tune.  IMHO!   I don't have any advice that would help you.  I liked it.
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover (remix #3) 2013/08/25 23:48:20 (permalink)
I guess I've listened to the remix - it sounds good.  Rocking - yes.  I like how the vocals are carved into the song - nicely mixed.  And nothing wrong w/ loud guitars.  They work on this one.  Plenty of energy.  Head nodding stuff, then on to the foot stomping.  I can see why the seats were torn up.
 
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/28 20:56:04 (permalink)
Steve - you guys are great - such great energy - instruments all played like pros and Sid has a killer voice. I love this.

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/31 10:05:58 (permalink)
 
Paul, thanks for the listen and the comments mate. The original Backwater is a bit of a Quo rarity in as much as Alan Lancaster took on the role of lead singer, presumably since he wrote/co-wrote the lyrics. Although he contributed a lot of backing vox to their stuff, I can only think of a couple of other songs where he's the main singer, most notably a cover version of The Doors' Roadhouse Blues.
 
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/08/31 12:55:30 (permalink)
I've only heard the latest version, but that sounds very good on my monitors.  The instruments are balanced and cutting through quite well, and the vocal sits atop them like it should.  This song rocks, and that's not smoke!

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/09/01 17:18:44 (permalink)
First how much was Bapu paid? and second, oh yeah, AWESOME!!

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/09/02 11:09:34 (permalink)
Hi Steve, didn't kow this one, thought you'd messed up the intro , listened to the original, you did good.; )
 
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/09/05 11:43:13 (permalink)
 
Hey Lynn, Tony, Rik - many thanks for the listen and your kind comments guys

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/09/05 16:26:41 (permalink)
I love the old school guitar production!

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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/09/10 18:32:33 (permalink)
 
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Re: Backwater - Quo cover 2013/09/12 04:54:47 (permalink)
Hi Steve , 
Oh Yeah, this song is sounding pretty kick A$$ ...
I'm guessing that I'm listening to the most recent mix ...
on soundcloud can you keep the song link ,  post a new mix and not loose your listens ?
anyway this song has a lot of attitude and plenty of balls   yeah , it is pretty happening the mix I'm listening to ...
this tune sounded like it sure was a lot of fun to play 
 
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