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Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
Not looking for something to produce final tunes with. I'm interested in something to work as a scratchpad.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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☼ Best Answerby BobF 2015/11/13 12:15:48
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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There is the old jammer pro but it's a bit long in the tooth. My vote would be BIAB. But now that I look at chord pulse.....WAY less overhead, and by that I mean, a lot less features I won;t use..... so Ima play with chordpulse a bit before the Christmas sales at PG. I think I'm not gonna upgrade BIAB... ChordPulse is da bomb!
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2015/11/13 12:54:51
ChordPulse is great. It was just upgraded to v2.4 a month ago, so the dev is still alive and kicking. The update added some useful chord types. Here's what v2.4 added: Version 2.4: - chord types added: 5, 6sus, 7b5, 7b9, 7#9, 7alt, 7sus, mM7, 9, m9, M9, 9sus, 9b5, 9#5, 69, m69, m11, 13, m13, M13 - new chord selectors: standard (17 chord types) and extended (36 chord types) - chord voicing options: rootless voicing, open harmony - chord notation options, chord qualities are now in subscript - new style selector with categories, sorting options, tempo and time signature information - 11 new music styles in "Jazz+Blues" category, one new style in "Synth" category - improved Swing and Jazz Ballad styles - some jazz/blues preset chord progressions added/renamed - new sample sessions: Blues, Jazz Loop, Minor Blues, Rock Base, Vintage Jazz; in folder "Samples/More": Even Jazz, Minor Blues 2, Unwind - music styles renamed: Slow 9/8 -> Slow Rock 9/8, Tsamikos 3/4 -> Tsamikos, Easy Swing -> Tale Swing, Soft Swing -> Swing - Pad, Soft Swing 3/4 -> Swing - Pad 3/4 - additional minor improvements, changes, and fixes A bargain for $22! Check out the videos: http://chordpulse.com/videos.html I have BIAB 2014 Pro+ (anyone else think they have WAY too many different versions?). On a DVD. No longer installed on my PC. I hated it. It took me about 5 minutes to put this Hotel California jam together. Here's the exported Type 1 MIDI file (I just threw this up quick; you'll get an error message re can't play audio file, and then a prompt to download): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5E-4HY76ym9dkNUdm14MHM5elE/view?usp=sharing
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
2015/11/13 12:05:04
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bjornpdx chordpulse is pretty good and works well as a scratchpad. I think it's $25. http://chordpulse.com/
Excellent! It's $21.95 ... I'll give the trial a day or two, but I think this is all I'm after. Thanks
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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BobF
bjornpdx chordpulse is pretty good and works well as a scratchpad. I think it's $25. http://chordpulse.com/
Excellent! It's $21.95 ... I'll give the trial a day or two, but I think this is all I'm after. Thanks
The trial version is v2.2, but should give you a good idea. Good luck.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
2015/11/13 12:19:22
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They updated the trial when you weren't looking
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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Way cool! They should update the webpage.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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Good find bjornpdx!! I too have BIAB (2013 I think) and haven't really used it much......the gui is just yuck...yuck....yuck....but, the program itself is fantastic. Chordpulse might be a good alternative for quick results......for us impatient simpletons.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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Yuck ... Yuck .... Yuck ... Moving on. Nothing to see. Nothing for me.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2015/11/13 17:29:37
Fleer Yuck ... Yuck .... Yuck ... Moving on. Nothing to see. Nothing for me.
Thanks for stopping by!
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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iReal Pro is one of the best things out there when it comes to low cost , simplicity and useable features … Unfortunately, it's pretty much Mac only , unless you have one of the smart phones it will run on .. http://irealpro.com Kenny
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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kennywtelejazz iReal Pro is one of the best things out there when it comes to low cost , simplicity and useable features … Unfortunately, it's pretty much Mac only , unless you have one of the smart phones it will run on .. http://irealpro.com Kenny
Thanks, Kenny. I don't do iStuff, but there might be some iPeople out there that appreciate knowing about it.
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iSee what ewe did there.
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iewe
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/11/14 17:26:22
Today I whipped out a progression with ChordPulse, picked a style and saved as MIDI. Dragged the file into Sonar with an instance of TTS-1. It was super quick and easy to have it playing in Sonar, ready for additions, tweaks and replacements. Very kool piece of kit. I will likely go ahead and upgrade my ancient BIAB version with the current MegaPak just because I can for what appears to be a really good deal. We'll see what Black Friday brings. In the mean time, ChordPulse is perfectly capable of providing a conduit between my head and Sonar.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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Yep, been playing around with the demo of ChordPulse and I kinda like it. I think I'll probably pick it up; can be a bit of a time saver at trying out variations of progressions if nothing else.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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Thanks Bjornpdx for introducing me to chordpulse. Never heard of it before but I see I will use it to scratch out ideas. Thanks!
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☄ Helpfulby Vastman 2015/11/25 00:47:01
Related but different Toontrack's EZ Keys. It certainly offers the ability to explore chord progressions.
I find Orange Tree's Evolution guitars to be one of the most useful things for experimenting with progressions and getting an initial base track.
But I think I will give Chord Pulse a try.
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I took out (from storage) the HD in which my 2013 BIAB came in and installed it with all 40 GB's of Real Band/Drums/Tracks on my system. I really haven't given BIAB a fair go at it (when time permits) and definitely owe it to myself. That being said, I'm also going to give ChordPulse a try.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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I downloaded the Demo, and it's pretty limited in scope... but for just getting "ideas" going it's a relatively inexpensive way to go...
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cclarry I downloaded the Demo, and it's pretty limited in scope... but for just getting "ideas" going it's a relatively inexpensive way to go...
I've played with CP a little more. It won't replace something like BiaB, but it is a great Q&D scratchpad IMO. One thing I like about CP is that it is functional enough to fire up and grab a guitar to really get ideas flowing - without getting distracted with a bunch of details.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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Mesh I took out (from storage) the HD in which my 2013 BIAB came in and installed it with all 40 GB's of Real Band/Drums/Tracks on my system. I really haven't given BIAB a fair go at it (when time permits) and definitely owe it to myself. That being said, I'm also going to give ChordPulse a try.
Mesh - please follow up here some with your impressions after some BiaB trials.
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Mesh I took out (from storage) the HD in which my 2013 BIAB came in and installed it with all 40 GB's of Real Band/Drums/Tracks on my system. I really haven't given BIAB a fair go at it (when time permits) and definitely owe it to myself. That being said, I'm also going to give ChordPulse a try.
Mesh - please follow up here some with your impressions after some BiaB trials.
Will definitely do this Bob......I'm currently studying for an exam next month (Dec. 12fth) and time is tight, but will try play around with it over the thanksgiving holidays and post back.
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/11/16 11:04:54
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Mesh I took out (from storage) the HD in which my 2013 BIAB came in and installed it with all 40 GB's of Real Band/Drums/Tracks on my system. I really haven't given BIAB a fair go at it (when time permits) and definitely owe it to myself. That being said, I'm also going to give ChordPulse a try.
Mesh - please follow up here some with your impressions after some BiaB trials.
Will definitely do this Bob......I'm currently studying for an exam next month (Dec. 12fth) and time is tight, but will try play around with it over the thanksgiving holidays and post back.
I need feedback PRIOR to any potential BF sales. I don't think you have your priorities right at all.
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Re: Band In A Box - Is there anything else out there?
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BobF, I've used BIAB for about 4 years now. It's more sophisticated than CP but the results can be magnitudes better. If I didn't have such good friends to collab with (ohgrant, jaymesg1213, daryl1968, Beagle just to name drop a few) I could see myself producing full songs with BIAB being my collaborators. The RealBand soloist feature (for a non soloist like me) can be a real boon to a song. Of course nothing can replace the originality of collaborators. But if you are limited in budget or collaborators BIAB could be just the thing for any composer to explore not only chord progressions but solos as well. The only thing I will say that BIAB suffers from (if one were to use only it for tracks) is drums. It's not a robotic Casio but it's not very expressive. They say you can get the drums MIDI but I've never been all that impressed with what BIAB does with drums. I usually build my own; typically using grooves from the chosen drum VST or the multitude of purchased grooves I own.
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Thanks for the info Bapu ... I guess I need to scratch some hardware off of the list
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