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2007/05/19 01:02:00 (permalink)

Best / Worst - purchases

Wish I would have bought sooner / Wish I never have bought??
Best / Worst - purchases?

I was thinking about the http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1053179 "If I had it to do over" thread. Could we help each other out some by telling some of the best and worst purchases we have made.


I got to think about this a little, and I will post back a few of my best and worst.
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 01:06:54 (permalink)
    Presonus Firestation, worst purchase ever. MLan wouldn't work. Never worked as a soundcard. Presonus passed the buck to Yamaha, and then dropped all support for it. Makes a good 8 channel a/d converter though.

    I actually wish I had gotten just a good 8x8 card or something like that (like a Delta 1010), and then an Alesis HD24 for (worry-free, hassle free) remote recording. Import into Sonar and mix to my heart's content.

    Best? hmmm... software=Project5, hands down. Hardware I've gotta go with my Fatar SL-990 hammer-action controller.
    post edited by agincourtdb - 2007/05/19 01:11:22


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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 02:08:34 (permalink)
    Jomox drum machine, their hard ware interface (knobs) are not precise. I also found that Sonar is really flexible as far as making volume changes, panning, Automation and so forth... so I'm finding Mackie control Universe not being the investment that I thought it would be. I love my step sequencers, so Korg emx's... good machine but the main outs are noisy as hell.
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 02:09:46 (permalink)
    Best: Sonar; Kurzweil keyboard; Fender Baja Telecaster; Gretsch Electromatic G5120; Very-Tone pedal

    Worst: Roland SI24 control surface (great audio interface, but many functions and the motorized faders just don't work in Sonar); one of the very first rackmount digital guitar effects processors; miniature Kustom guitar amp

    I notice that even the worst stuff eventually becomes useful. It took well over 10 years before I went back to the rackmount processor, and started to find ways to get sounds I could enjoy.

    post edited by Clik - 2007/05/19 02:13:20
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 03:06:37 (permalink)
    Best: Sonar 6, Project5, Access Virus Polar TI, Frontier Designs AlphaTrack, Akai MPD24, MOTU 828mkII

    Worst: Mackie Onyx 400f There's a nightmare I'll never forget.

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 03:27:18 (permalink)
    Definitely the SP Tech monitors (Continumum AD's here) have made by far the biggest impact. I keep them in my sig' just to help get the word out. I know a lot of people won't know about them and may not want to stray from the known paths.
    On the bargain end, the Chameleon 7602. A no brainer at that price.

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 06:06:56 (permalink)
    best purchases... software: Sonar, no competition there... especially as number two would be the PSP Vintage Warmer which I got for free with Sonar... Sound Forge is probably number 3. Hardware: A matched pair of vintage Neumann KM84/85's, hands down. Runner up... tough call, maybe an original Jaecklin Float electrostatic headset, unbelievable open detailed sound that, with eyes closed, you simply cannot make yourself believe is not in the room... or maybe my Tascam US428, recently retired after 6 years of loyal service...

    worst? Hmm... I don't know, most things I've gotten some good use out of. I wouldn't want to say worst about anything, though there are definitely a few I've gotten considerably less use from than those listed above.

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 06:48:46 (permalink)
    Best: Guitar Tracks Pro 2, Taylor 110, US Fender Strat 1994 (now sold), Presonus Firebox, M-Audio BX5's

    Worst: Nothing comes to mind...maybe a wah wah peddle I just had to have when I was 19.

    What I want to get: A really sweet condensor mic for recording acoustic guitar, a nice electric guitar and amp and Sonar...and a really comfortable recording environment rather than my stingy bedroom.
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 07:09:30 (permalink)
    Best - Project5, Dimension Pro, Audio Damage Replicant, Edirol PCR300

    Worst - Any recent purchase from Native Instruments (IE in the last year), EMU Xboard,
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 07:33:32 (permalink)
    my worst: Mackie onix 1620 with firewire card ( a bunch of input channels and only stereo out) and for some reason the driver never work in asio, Protools Mpower I lost the Ilok and still waiting for the #$%#$@ new licence.
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 07:49:54 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: cryophonik

    Best: Sonar 6, Project5, Access Virus Polar TI, Frontier Designs AlphaTrack, Akai MPD24, MOTU 828mkII

    Worst: Mackie Onyx 400f There's a nightmare I'll never forget.

    Hey cryophonik, how come your onyx was such a nightmare?

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 08:17:51 (permalink)
    Best---Sonar , soundcraft 328xd digital desk, Roland fantom s88, Roland V-synth, Rode nt2 mic, joe meek preamp, Brian moore custom shope c90p guitar, mesa heartbreaker stack, boss gt8, evesham laptop , NI guitar rig 2, takamine acoustic, bass coleection bass, wavelab (version 4 still used everytime I'm in the studio), garritan libraries

    Worst--Cubase VST 5, NI absynth (great sounds terrible copy protection), M audio quattro interface, time laptop, behringer bass v-amp, yamaha DTX drum kit

    most regretted sold----amazing 62 reissue strat, leather trousers , my soul ----doh
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 08:24:16 (permalink)
    Worst: Elgam Melody spaghetti-wired organ in 1978@ 540 GBP. Just before chip keyboards with excellent sound variation.

    Bests: Korg MS20 - 140 GBP (1984), Edirol UR80 midi control surface 180 GBP.
    post edited by iainkelman - 2007/05/19 08:25:13
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 08:58:27 (permalink)

    Worst - Any recent purchase from Native Instruments (IE in the last year), EMU Xboard,

    syrath,

    What don't you like about the xboard? I just received my new xboard 61 yesterday and I like the feel of the keys. Admittedly I am having problems with the software/drivers. I'll need to call support on Monday. First, my computer won't boot up if the xboard is turned on when I turn on the computer. When I put the computer into standby the xboard loses its USB connection with the computer, etc etc etc. A big pain in the rear. A potentially big problem -- Hopefully tech support will help. But the feel of the keys are good to me, and contrary to the complaints about the wobbly knobs, I just don't see it -- they are tight on my board. Overall, the keyboard is solid There is a little sloppiness in quality control -- minor scratches here and there -- but that will happen sooner or later. Haven't had a chance to try out the controller side. After one day -- I like the keyboard itself, assuming I can resolve the software problem.

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 10:17:05 (permalink)
    Best- RME FF800, Genelecs 8030a's, Manley TNT, ART TPS II, Tranzport, (2) Ibanez AEF series acoustics, AKG c414 mic

    Worst - Edirol speakers, cheap cables, cheap women & booze.


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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 10:27:21 (permalink)
    Hello,

    This one is a no-brainer: Behringer 32x8 mixer. I loved it, then three of them failed in my studio. After six months of unplugging 64 connection and stuffing the thing in my smallish sedan, I settled with the store for a replacement, a Mackie SR32-4 which works like a champ.

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 10:34:16 (permalink)
    Best recording purchase: Sonar, with EZDrummer a second. Musical: 1990 MIM Fender Telecaster which I customized to perfection.

    Worst recording purchase: A Tascam digital 8-track in 2002. It cost twice the price of Sonar HS! Musical: Marshall JCM900. Liked it until I heard my other guitarist's AC30.

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 11:20:12 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Lost Souls

    Hey cryophonik, how come your onyx was such a nightmare?



    Why do you make me bring back such painful memories?! Actually, I bought it when it first hit the streets. The first model was a dud - wouldn't even power up. I took it back to the GC where I purchased it, had to wait a week for them to get another one in stock. Got a new one, installed it, and, to make a very long story short, there were nothing but problems with the drivers. I found out later by looking at the Mackie forums that it was a widespread problem, not sure if it's been resolved. We were trying to get a bunch of songs recorded during those weeks, but it was nearly impossible with all the crashes, freezeups, etc. On several occasions, the unit/drivers froze my computer to the point that the only way to reboot was to yank the plug. And Mackie's (lack of) customer support - don't even get me started . In their defense, I believe that they were overwhlemed with the number of users experiencing problems and/or busy trying to help R&D prepare driver patches. Anyway, I pulled my hair out for about a week, before returning it for a different brand/model. Ultimately, I bought a MOTU 828mkII and I've never been happier with a soundcard.

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 11:26:34 (permalink)
    Best purchases:
    1. Yamaha MO8 (best synth I've ever owned, played or heard)
    2. SONAR
    3. Frontier Tranzport
    4. ADAM P11
    5. Kurzweil PC2R
    6. Melodyne
    7. Ozone
    8. Har-Bal
    9. Voxengo GlissEQ
    10. Adobe Audition

    Mistakes:
    1. Kontakt 2
    2. DFH
    3. Presonus Eureka (works OK but could have done better)

    post edited by bitflipper - 2007/05/19 11:29:05
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 12:18:54 (permalink)
    Best> Sonar P3 and PSP Vintage Warmer.

    WORST> Edirol PCR 50 Midi Controller. The keys just stops working one by one as though they planning to shut down my business. Edirol 15 watt monitors. Just gave up on me and a Zoom MRS 1044. I had to sell it for next to nothing after paying $745.00 for it. Forgot to mention my Guillemot Maxi Studio ISIS soundcard.

    post edited by stingie@tstt.net.tt - 2007/05/21 06:20:33

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 12:32:02 (permalink)
    Best: Sonar 6 Pro, Mackie Onyx1640, DFHS, Pod XT (Thanks to Roger for turning me on to Pods again), SansAmp TRI-A.C., Mazda6

    Worst: Roland VM3100 Pro with RPC-1...although it got me started in the DAW world and worked well sometimes, it was VERY tough to get the drivers installed correctly and it gave me issues with sample rates. In fact, I don't think it really worked with anything past Win98. It sits at practice for a vocal/PA mixer now.
    Also, the other worst was an ART SGX-LT guitar preamp. It is a $70 joke that never gets used. I love ART (partially because they are local), but that thing is crap.
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 13:04:54 (permalink)
    Best purchases: Apex 460 tube mic. In terms of bang-for-buck and frequency of use, great purchase. AKG d12. Lovely kick mic. Fireface. Freeing me from the blue-screen filled world of Aardvark. Soundworkshop Logex 8 & studiomaster 8 into 4 consoles. Nice front ends for drum recordings. I once got a vox ac50 at an estate sale for $5, with the sticker "fire hazard" on it. Needed a retube and a new output transformer, but sounds amazing. Behringer Vamp2. Still going strong 6 years or so later, still gets a good deal of use.

    Worst purchases: AKG D112. One of the few mics I've sold just to get rid of. Horrible, clicky sounding kick mic. Behringer Bass Vamp pro. With how much I like the guitar version, I figured the bass version would be a great compliment, and might be a nice addition to the mobile rig. Totally useless. And I'm a bassist. Considering I prefer a plain DI to an amp for bass recording, maybe this is just me. Monster prolink 500 snake cable I got at employee cost from a friend. Even with the employee discount (of about 80% off retail, for those who think you get what you pay for), it was still the absolute worst cable I've ever worked with. Should have bought the mogami (or belden, canare, gepco...) at retail (which was only about 10% more than the 'discounted' monster cable).

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 13:17:47 (permalink)
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 13:43:47 (permalink)
    It wasn't so much that I disliked the product, just that I haven't found much use for it.

    It was my first excursion into the world of software samplers. I had visions of ultra-realistic orchestral parts. The reality was that it sucked the life out of my CPU and drained my RAM while delivering little that I couldn't get from my hardware synths. It required too much tweaking to get usable string sounds. The only useful samples were the Steinway, but my Yamaha MO8 does a better piano. And then there's the annoying bug where Kontakt resets its volume, ignoring any CC7 events telling it otherwise.

    I may still find a use for Kontakt 2 some day, but if I had my 400 bucks back today I'd spend it on something that would truly expand my musical palette, such as East West Symphonic Choirs.

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 14:04:29 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bitflipper

    Best purchases:
    ... 6. Melodyne



    Ah yes, Melodyne plugin - also one of my best purchases - not sure how I forgot that one.

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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 14:09:15 (permalink)
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 14:15:09 (permalink)
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 14:26:23 (permalink)
    Best Godin LG Hum Guitar as it plays and sounds superb.

    Worst SaxLab it sounds like wind but not from a sax.

     
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 14:46:38 (permalink)
    Best = Sonar, Reaktor, Battery, Dimension Pro, Waves.

    Worst, um,, I'll have to thank a while on that one.
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    RE: Best / Worst - purchases 2007/05/19 15:39:24 (permalink)
    Worst: Buying a Dell
    Best: Everything I put into this crappy Dell

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