joshcamp
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Best eq for surgical frequency removal
I just discovered how great 'surgical' removal of certain 'bad' frequencies is. I 've been using sonitus' eq for this, but I would like to know if there is something more powerful or more precise.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 13:47:31
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joshcamp
I just discovered how great 'surgical' removal of certain 'bad' frequencies is. I 've been using sonitus' eq for this, but I would like to know if there is something more powerful or more precise.
One of the problems with using the Sonitus EQ for surgical techniques (notching, etc) is that there is a static slope. Almost any other (more modern) EQ - even some free ones - allow for variable/adjustable or selectable slopes. I find this extremely important to do serious notching/surgical EQ'ing.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 14:02:16
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thanks billy. can you recommend any ?
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 14:08:04
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I think of Sonitus as a fixed Q style EQ... that has an easy to use Q width adjustment. In general, the more aggressive the notch... the more likely you may appreciate a phase linear filter. That way the aggressive notch will not trigger weird resonances that create audible artifacts. best, mike edit spelling
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 14:18:09
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I've used Sonitus to notch out bad resonances with max Q. I didn't notice any unpleasant artifacts.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 14:23:02
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Expensive, but... to make up your own mind, there's a free 15 day trial. I highly recommend it. Fabfilter Pro-Q
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 14:31:51
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mike_mccue
I think of Sonitus as a fixed Q style EQ... that has an easy to use Q width adjustment.
In general, the more aggressively the notch... the more likely you may appreciate a phase linear filter. That way the aggressive notch will not trigger weird resonances that create audible artifacts.
best,
mike
Thanks Mike - I have noticed some phase issues notching with sonitus. can you recommend a phase linear eq with notching capabilities ?
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 14:46:07
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Plus one on ProQ from FabFilter. Another new one that looks nice is the WAVES H EQ...on sale now for around 80 bucks from folks like Tony at highprofileaudio.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 15:23:01
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brundlefly
I've used Sonitus to notch out bad resonances with max Q. I didn't notice any unpleasant artifacts.
Cuts usually work fine while boosts amplify any associated artifacts. It doesn't really apply to the OP... I was speaking more "in general". best regards, mike
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 15:30:10
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 15:59:12
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Alegria
Expensive, but... to make up your own mind, there's a free 15 day trial. I highly recommend it.
Fabfilter Pro-Q
That's my favorite one of them all.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 16:00:21
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brundlefly
I've used Sonitus to notch out bad resonances with max Q. I didn't notice any unpleasant artifacts.
I have to say I feel (hear) otherwise ... I, too, have often noticed some artifacts and/or brittleness with Sonitus, Dave.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 16:04:53
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joshcamp
thanks billy. can you recommend any ?
I see you're getting some good recommendations in this thread - and I agree with most. FabFilter Pro-Q is my fav, and most used and the one I would recommend most. GlissEQ (Voxengo) is no slouch. PSP makes a few. IIEQ Pro and their free one LP10. I'm not a big fan of Waves for some reason, but there are some good ones there too. The fact is there are many good ones. Way too many to list. Even plugins like Nomad Factory's Analogue Suite and _similar_ plugins that are "channel strip" plugins (ie, they have EQ, Gate, Compressor, etc, all in one plugin). But I suggest, as others have, try the demos of products that interest you and see/hear the diffs in your own environment.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 16:05:27
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Steinberg RND eq is working pretty well here in demo mode. A tad expensive, tho.
A good, cheap one is Voxengo's Curve EQ.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 16:08:23
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What about LP-64 ? I've been meaning to ask about that EQ because it's supposed to be really high quality, right?
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 16:09:45
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 16:14:11
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Deisel401rs
What about LP-64 ? I've been meaning to ask about that EQ because it's supposed to be really high quality, right?
I actually like it -- but, like many, the glitchy thing that happens when you change a value/setting can become annoying. I think it keeps a lot of people away from it. I don't recall right now, but if you either use the mouse or don't use the mouse -- one of those avoids much of the glitches; but still, other LP type plugins don't exhibit the symptom at all.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 16:15:35
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iZotope RX tools work well, but it's not cheap.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 16:16:15
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carl
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DMG Equality
http://dmgaudio.com/
(btw LP10 isn't free)
Woops, you're right (thanks). But there is an IIEQ that is. But even the non-free versions are really inexpensive.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 19:01:02
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There is a lot of really good information here in this thread and thanks for all the info. Be a bit careful in choosing phase linear EQ vs traditional zero latency EQ option. It will eliminate artifacts caused by phase discrepancies but it WILL introduce latency. Something to consider if this is something you want to use in a live mode. Also sounds with very fast low frequency transients (drums) may sound different than you intend. The reason some people may notice the phaseing issues with regular EQ is dependent on the music and not a reflection of hearing or mastering acuity. Sometimes those phase discrepancies cause happy accidents. Just my thoughts....
The FabFilter Pro-Q plug-in looks amazing. I checked on the web site and the evaluation period is actually 30 days not 15 so you should have plenty of time to figure out if it is going to work. The price is pretty steep at $199. Anyone actively using this in X1c?
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 19:13:01
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Pro-Q is very very good. It is so responsive and operates so smoothly that it is almost satisfying to use. Instead of putting down 199 for just the EQ you might want to save up for a bit and explore the possibility of getting a Fabfilter bundle with the attendant discount.
EQuick is not quite as user friendly but it can be opened as a nearly full screen VST. You should have a look at this one also if you are lloking for just an EQ
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 19:21:54
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I use all the FabFilter stuff and they work great in x1C. Plus one also to Backwoods advice!
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 20:28:04
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I use all the FabFilter stuff and they work great in x1C. Plus one also to Backwoods advice!
And, while Sonar/X1 is not "VST3 compatible" yet, FabFilter IS; also RTAS if I'm not mistaken (not helpful for Sonar but good bang for the buck).
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 22:52:05
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/20 23:15:31
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Been demoing Equick from DMG Audio. It also has a 30 day demo period. I think it's about $118, so it's not as high as Pro-Q which I demoed last year and loved. I really dig the interface and the mid-side per band options.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/21 04:23:05
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I use this one quite a bit
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/21 07:18:53
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Xeq all the way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55WRy7202s but i'm considering gifting myself with the Heq from waves for the left right / center side stuff .... Bristol ...out of topics but how do you find focusrite audio drivers ? stable , low latency ...(can you give me the round trip for exemple at 256 samples) I need a super lite interface for headphone production and the focusrite VRM is on the menu but i'm knida scared of the drivers and convertors quality ..
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/21 07:47:05
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Stable: Yes. Totally, 100% stable.
Latency: not entirely sure, and I'm miles away from my DAW, but I don't think it's anything special, but I am using the WDM drivers as provided by my DAW builder.
I can't fault converter quality, but then again I don't have anything to compare them with.
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Re:Best eq for surgical frequency removal
2011/09/21 08:05:56
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First... try not to need surgical EQ.
Second... when it does present as a need.... I have used the Cake default EQ's since they do have adjustable Q so I can get a smooth bump OR a surgical cut as needed. They are IIRC limited to 4 bands....
My other EQ of choice is in Ozone 4. More bands in O4 and adjustable Q as well as totally adjustable bands.
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