BitBridge or JBridge??

Is there a list somewhere...if not, maybe we could compile one...on which instruments and plugins run better under either BitBridge or JBridge?  At the very least is there a least of which plugs will definitely not work well with BitBridge? 

I am moving away from JBridge myself now that Superior Drummer has native 64 capability.

I just bumped this one. Not a definitve list but if you wade through there a lot of info
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=1829581&mpage=3#2059022
 
Some prefer to use JBridge in all cases as it cures some focus issues you get in bitbridge.
 
Edit - its in the stickeys now! thanks Brandon

Glyn Barnes
 
Edit - its in the stickeys now! thanks Brandon

Sure thing.

Freddie H


JBridge is fantastic tool and there are many more benefits that come with it that you don't have in the included SONAR bitbridge.

I agree that JBridge is a great tool, and I encourage everyone to support it and purchase a license to continue its development. However, I'm not sure all your info is correct below, and you missed a couple of things.

1. JBridge are in full latency compensation. SONAR bitbridge no latency compensation.

Not sure you are correct with this. I vaguely recall an exchange with Noel that indicated that BitBridge does indeed have latency compensation. Maybe someone from Cake can clear this up. I'm almost positive you're incorrect about this.

2. Its make Melodyne Editor work seamlessly in Jbridge bitbridge mode.

3. Sound quality of bridge plugins are like it was native 64bit plugins.

Makes no sense to mention this in exclusive relation to JBridge -- because both JBridge and BitBridge will provide the same sound quality from the bridged plugin.

4. Jbridge lets all bridge 32bit plugins act, run like it was native 64bit plugins.

As you have perhaps already notice with SONAR-bitbridge its outside the SONAR environment. Example of this is that you need to mouse click again on the arrangement to start playing with SONAR bitbridge----> "spacebar" with 32bit plugins.

With JBridge, it act and run like it was real native 64bit plugin inside SONAR environment.   

Just for clarification, both bridges technically run the plugins outside the main Sonar threads in their own processes. However, they do this differently. There are some advantages with either approach. Some plugins don't behave as well in one or the other bridge... again, another good reason to have both. In some cases, you have decide which annoying issue you deal with for a set of plugins. For example there were various subtle, but different problems with both bridges and FabFilter plugins. However, thankfully, FabFilter has released x64 versions of the all their plugins now and so a bridge is not needed for them anymore. Let's hope this trend continues! :)

5. Include many more settings ---->"Bridge settings" let you edit and manage individual plugins settings.

Comment about 5 - just because something has more settings, doesn't mean it's better. In a perfect world, a plugin host or bridge will be completely transparent, and you shouldn't have to worry about all those little individual options for each plugin. It's great that JBridge has so many settings, but honestly, it can be confusing sometimes.

You forgot to mention 6. That JBridge also allows you to bridge 64-bit plugins to a 64-bit host (not that you'll use that), 64-bit plugins to a 32-bit host and 32-bit plugins to a 32-bit host in addition to the standard 32-bit plugins to a 64-bit host.

You also forgot to mention 7. That JBridge runs each plugin in its own process. BitBridge groups them into servers. In practice this is not a huge disadvantage or advantage, however if you have a misbehaving plugin, JBridge can theoretically provide more isolation/sandboxing. This is a minor issue, since with BitBridge you can now also assign a plugin to a specific server, which can accomplish much the same thing.

You also forgot to mention 8. That JBridge works with other x64 DAWs such as Cubase (and some plugins work even better under Cubase, to be frank). BitBridge only works with Sonar. Again, not a huge deal, but worth mentioning if the user has other DAW apps installed.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, Noel! That's what I thought. It just didn't make sense that BitBridge didn't have latency compensation, but I couldn't remember if you had said that before, or someone else from Cake a while back. I hope we can all leave that bit of misinformation to rest now.

Valid points James!




Best Regards
Freddie

Well, I add this to the sticky also...but it appears my beloved Sound Toys don't like either BitBridge OR JBridge.  Very sketchy.  Hangs Sonar so bad that task manager can't shut it down.  Have to physically turn off the computer.  Dern.

Well, I add this to the sticky also...but it appears my beloved Sound Toys don't like either BitBridge OR JBridge. Very sketchy. Hangs Sonar so bad that task manager can't shut it down. Have to physically turn off the computer. Dern.

 
Hi Ol Pal,
 
If you have the 32Bit version of Sonar installed, you can fire that up and use Sound Toys.
Freeze the tracks... and you should be able to return to the 64Bit version of Sonar.

 
Jim Roseberry

Well, I add this to the sticky also...but it appears my beloved Sound Toys don't like either BitBridge OR JBridge. Very sketchy. Hangs Sonar so bad that task manager can't shut it down. Have to physically turn off the computer. Dern.

 
Hi Ol Pal,
 
If you have the 32Bit version of Sonar installed, you can fire that up and use Sound Toys.
Freeze the tracks... and you should be able to return to the 64Bit version of Sonar.

Hi Jim, but it would sure be nice to only have to have one host and not multiple versions of it to do the work you need. A tool box is a tool box though.  ;)
 
about BB - I do know that Bitbridge crashed on me many times and the bakers didn't pursue it too much since they were not the main programmers for that code. I was very sorry that they took that stance on that issue and a couple more.
 
I was interested in using Superior drummer and bitbridge kept crashing rendering the plug useless in SONAR64. I am very glad that Toontrack got the software working correctly without any help from BB or JB. SD2 is pretty solid in the 64-bit world.

+1 on the SuperiorDrummer 64bit update ... which now works on my 2 DAW computers

... I suppose I'll wean my songs (about 24 of em) to S2-64 and be done with jbridge (several months perhaps)