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2014/02/01 19:21:51 (permalink)

Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!!

I'll give the bakers credit for making X3 work like a dream. As far as how things work and the results, X3 is aces. As for the GUI, imagine and nice smelling air freshener that looks like a turd and that's the X3 GUI.

Don't go flaming me because I want to see things the way I want to and not the way you think it should be. It is completely ridiculous that software cannot be designed to be usable regardless of esthetics. The GUI for the X series STILL is annoying to look at. Why should I have to struggle to see what the values are in the console view? I may be wrong, I'll have to do some checking, but it seems to me that this would fall under the disability act.
 
At least tell Panu how to mod it so I can use it. If it were not for him, I would still be using 8.5.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 19:36:14 (permalink)
Don't use color since X1 as I've learnt that it's not supported anymore. But I though I've heard it's being resumed in X3.. and I hate to work with step sequencer clip that is being assigned as grey color, so in X3 I try to right click on the grey color clip and expect (wish) to find a color option.. Not there.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 19:36:44 (permalink)
Which specific color option are you talking about?
 


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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 20:16:11 (permalink)
I'm loving the color myself.  Helps my creativity...me thinks or it could be the beer.  lol  Hope everyone is enjoying 2014 as much as I am. 

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 20:40:36 (permalink)
I agree that we need the FULL color options back. I work at a bit of a distance from my monitors when I'm mixing and I use a control surface (And I'm getting older so my eyesight ain't what it used to be). In Sonar 8 I was able to make the selected track change to a totally different color when I touched a fader. This made it very easy to see exactly where I was. In X3, just the little, tiny area behind the label changes colors. This is REALLY hard to see. 



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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 20:51:29 (permalink)
 

I'll have to do some checking, but it seems to me that this would fall under the disability act.

 
Not even close.   Besides, Windows offers accessibility options.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 20:58:45 (permalink)
Living in the UK and regularly travelling to the US, I know how disability is treated in the US, regardless right now I'm clueless as to what the issue is, probably because I've never used Panu's stuff. My advice, tell us specifically what you want, rather than compare with another product. I'm keen to understand what the actual issue is (in these international forums where govt. regulation is what the NSA does by stealth to all nations, oh and add China and a sprinkling of MI6). From what I understand there isn't much limitation in the colour palette. (Yes the u is important, they gave you the statue of liberty after all whilst we invented the web).
 
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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:03:23 (permalink)
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In X3, just the little, tiny area behind the label changes colors. This is REALLY hard to see. 

 
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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:04:45 (permalink)
I'll give the bakers credit for making X3 work like a dream. As far as how things work and the results, X3 is aces. As for the GUI, imagine and nice smelling air freshener that looks like a rose and that's the X3 GUI. 

Don't go flaming me because I want to see things the way I want to and not the way you think it should be. It is completely ridiculous that software designed to be usable regardless of aesthetics causes some folks to complain. The GUI for the X series STILL is great to look at. Why should I have to struggle to see what values these complainers have? I may be wrong, I'll have to do some checking, but it seems to me that they would fall under the disability act.
 



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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:11:52 (permalink)
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The GUI for the X series STILL is great to look at.


 
Agreed. X3's GUI is the most beautiful among all daws, IMO, of course.
 
HOWEVER....
 


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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:12:28 (permalink)
> but it seems to me that they would fall under the disability act.
 
This is not the USA, these are international forums, please be more specific to us people who don't understand ;) I'm not seeing any green.
 
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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:20:08 (permalink)
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The GUI for the X series STILL is great to look at.


 
Agreed. X3's GUI is the most beautiful among all daws, IMO, of course.
 
HOWEVER....
 





Well that's sorted out that confusion... Thanks.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:25:28 (permalink)
I'm glad you all like it but for me, it's hard to look at. I don't care about esthetics. I want functional more than esthetics. So, not to be rude, your wasting your time saying how much you love the GUI in this thread. I'm glad you like it. More power to you. It's not for me and it gives me a headache.
 
It may not be "pretty" but it was very functional and easy to work for long periods of time.
 

 
 

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:30:56 (permalink)
So what exactly is missing from Sonar, other than it not working like some other piece of software? If you are wanting a UI redesign so it looks like somebodies else's product (or make it look more like the deathstar) I suspect it won't happen.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:37:43 (permalink)

> but it seems to me that they would fall under the disability act.
 
This is not the USA, these are international forums, please be more specific to us people who don't understand ;) I'm not seeing any green.

 
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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:38:16 (permalink)
Your not being helpful with inane comments Alex.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:39:28 (permalink)
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> but it seems to me that they would fall under the disability act.

This is not the USA, these are international forums, please be more specific to us people who don't understand ;) I'm not seeing any green.

 
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Good point!

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:40:50 (permalink)
No Robert really, please bare with me, what specially do you want to change, I am interested. It's been pretty generalistic so far. I think your points may be good points, just need the specifics. My point really was (badly written) you are being too vague. You really can't just point to another product and say it should be like this product, that would be saying Cake should be more like Pro Tools.... We might get you but we don't really get a grip. Jlien's point for instance was extremely clear.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:43:15 (permalink)
So, not to be rude, your wasting your time saying how much you love the GUI in this thread.

 
Au contraire, mon ami
 
You're wasting your time saying how much the GUI disgusts you in this thread.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:46:02 (permalink)
Can you use the brightness, contrast, saturation, color temperature, etc. options in the monitor itself to suit your needs better? For example Vegas has a GUI option designed for post-production suites that's useless for me - until I adjust brightness and contrast.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 21:51:50 (permalink)
I thought that the image I provided said it all. That's Sonar X2 with Panu's Black Label mod. It's pretty much the same in the TV as well. I even had the clip be black even though the pane background was black. It made it easier, and less painful, for me to work quite a while. I set my waveform to yellow. I don't like that the TV's waveform colors are tied to the track.
 
My original statement is incorrect though. I should not have said it looked like a turd. I'm sure to most of you that what I want looks like a turd. So be it. I need something I can work on for longer than five minutes.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 22:06:43 (permalink)
It looks like the deathstar to me (not a turd). Well I like the look of the deathstar as well, it would be pretty cool if Cake's UI could look like the deathstar on a mouse click. However it would be really difficult to write the steps in Cake's problem reporter to say "make it look like the deathstar". But as a point sure it's valid, I just can't see how it would go any further without specifics.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 23:14:09 (permalink)
I'm with Guitarpima on this one. I find the overall attempt to replicate what a console used to be as uninspired and for my old eyes tiring...I would prefer a more contempory look with colour customization and the ability to create themes. I'm okay with how the track view and PRV look, feel and operate.
 
In further support of Guitarpima he is only criticizing the look, as he states (and I agree), workflow and functionality are first rate...my personnel favorite.
 
I don't see how it hurts anything the ideas he is bringing up. I find them constructive. 
 
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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 23:44:54 (permalink)
In further support of Guitarpima he is only criticizing the look, as he states (and I agree), workflow and functionality are first rate...my personnel favorite.

 
Of course, although his choice of immoderate adjectives tends to render his arguments rather hard to believe. Of course, disagreeing with him isn't a flame, just a critique of a critique....
 
 
 
 

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/01 23:56:49 (permalink)
I seem to be one of the few people that liked the X series colour scheme. When the colour options were introduced in X3 my first reactions was "I won't be messing with that" but I found I really like the way it has been implemented when working with busses.
 

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/02 00:16:12 (permalink)
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When the colour options were introduced in X3 my first reactions was "I won't be messing with that" but I found I really like the way it has been implemented when working with busses.
 

 
That's exactly my experience.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/02 00:28:46 (permalink)
Adjectives aside, this has been a complaint since X1 first came out. The complaints stopped because Panu was able to mod the GUI so people could have it the way they wanted. Now were back to square 1 again and the "new color options" they brought forth aren't working. Why does everything have to be gray? Are the bakers pretending to be characters in the book, "The Giver"? People want color options they like, not what someone wants them to like. There are no colors that stick out against the gray that makes things easier to see.
 
I want to see it the way I want to see it and not the way you think it should be. If you don't like it, suffer. As it is, I'm the one who has to suffer with this insufferable GUI.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/02 00:28:53 (permalink)
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I thought that the image I provided said it all.



Yes, which is why I suggested bumping up the brightness and contrast. It won't change the color, but it makes the areas you indicated more readable.

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/02 01:20:40 (permalink)
I'm a bit more sympathetic to having full color control as it once was.  I do like the look of X3 but thats me. I don't see why my like should be imposed on everyone else. I was more involved with adjusting color and the look of Sonar in the past but after many versions I got more comfortable with the stock look. Now I think one of Sonar's neat features was being able to customize the color scheme that sadly is no longer around. I also recall the pride CW had in pointing out how they were the only DAW that offered vision impaired users various color themes that would help them. I'm sorry they abandoned that part of the program.  
 
To me personally its not the most important feature but I do believe it is for many and that alone is reason enough to put it back. 
 
What would be nice for me would be a scalable CV. One that I could adjust in overall size and still see all its contents. 
 
Anyway, I will be for any movement toward full color customization. Why because its the right thing to do. 

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Re: Bring back the color option!!!!!!!!!! 2014/02/02 02:20:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/02 04:11:23
I was going to write a long, lengthy response but the music was more important.

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