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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/13 23:13:51 (permalink)
bapu

Bapu Am 75% Polish.
And what's the other 75%?



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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/13 23:15:32 (permalink)
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And what's the other 75%?



Bada BOOOM!!!!!!!
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/13 23:43:47 (permalink)
 Not bad. Retro, but not bad. One thing I believe might improve the mix would be an instance of TP Basslane on the master bus. Just whack it on there with the default settings. The bass sounds a little smeared off center to me - TP Basslane does a great job of solidifying the bottom end. 

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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 00:03:21 (permalink)
As it should be. I think what is important here is to not relive the past, but look forward. If Pete wants to participate here (emphasis on participate) then he is welcome AFAIAC. But, he is not welcome (AFAIAC) if he continues to lash out unnecessarily. This is why I raised an eyebrow when Frank took offence to my telling Pete to go away - I do not want people around me who are negative to a fault. Unlike Bill, all is not forgiven with me. Nothing is reset. I keep a wary eye. But the door is open (for me at least). Come and try to be part of this or please... stay away.

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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 02:08:38 (permalink)
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bapu

Bapu Am 75% Polish.
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Bada BOOOM!!!!!!!

I can attest to that. I saw his Bada Boom at my wedding. We all saw it. Bapu can party eh ? 

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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 10:24:42 (permalink)
I think people forget the whole point of music like this. It's perfect for the meat markets where guy rub their hard ons on gals that are receptive. Plain and simple. They don't care about, "where's the melody." All they care about is, "where's the beef."

I don't like it but it sounds good.

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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 10:32:38 (permalink)
Honestly, I do not see what any of you see as compelling about this track. From the Bell Biv Devoe sample of "Poison" to the cornball scratching, nothing about it strikes me as a listener as original, fresh, different or interesting. Simply a bunch of beats loops strung together. Nothing interesting from the mix style. Nothing interesting from a rhythmic point of view.

And I am not saying this as a dig to PP (though it is entirely well-deserved if I wanted to).

Sounds like something anyone with some samples can put together.
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 11:39:29 (permalink)
James,

I believe EVERYTHING cannot be exceptional, fresh, different or interesting else how would we judge/grade? A bell curve must exist in any art form, IMHO. This forum needs entries like this and mine so that rest of you guys and gals can really stand out.

Just my $0.02US.
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 11:42:40 (permalink)
James, I think you're mostly correct.  However, due to some of Pete's past critiques, I suspect that this isn't the best he can do.  He may be gaming us to gauge our reactions.  I, for one, don't really care.  He's part of our forum whether you take him seriously or not.  Anyone who participates in this forum better have a thick skin or slow burning point.
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Honestly, I do not see what any of you see as compelling about this track. From the Bell Biv Devoe sample of "Poison" to the cornball scratching, nothing about it strikes me as a listener as original, fresh, different or interesting. Simply a bunch of beats loops strung together. Nothing interesting from the mix style. Nothing interesting from a rhythmic point of view.

And I am not saying this as a dig to PP (though it is entirely well-deserved if I wanted to).

Sounds like something anyone with some samples can put together.



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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 13:06:06 (permalink)
Pete is surely teasing and this is not a real effort on his part. IMHO Pete, I think it's best to show by example. You can become respectable if you put away that knife you, intentionally or not, stick in on your criticisms. Good day.

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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 14:05:36 (permalink)
Mr. Pistol... Of course, I was just kidding you with my earlier comment... and I suspect you're a kidder too... I must say, I do enjoy reading many of your comments... I sometimes find them funny, refreshing, and insightful, I don't care for any hateful, or hurtful stuff, but then, I haven't seen any of that... but then again, what may not hurt me, may hurt another...  
I for one, would would be very interested in hearing a selection from your "usual songs"...
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 14:09:33 (permalink)
notnat

I for one, would would be very interested in hearing a selection from your "usual songs"... because I'm tired of Bapu's/Coffee House Collaborators/Forum Monkeys/Straumpu & The CHC tripe


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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 15:30:15 (permalink)
Well it put a smile on my face.....and reminded me how fun funny it can be....
post edited by spacey - 2013/02/14 15:36:12
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 15:38:19 (permalink)
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notnat

I for one, would would be very interested in hearing a selection from your "usual songs"... because I'm tired of Bapu's/Coffee House Collaborators/Forum Monkeys/Straumpu & The CHC tripe



your words Ed, not mine... what's wrong Ed, do you need a hug..?
 
Can we do that..? I knew it was common practice to edit out sections of quotes... but adding your own thoughts & words, seems unethical at best, and possibly a TOS violation, not unlike a forum member regestering under multiple user names...    
 
but hey, it's all in fun, right..? no agendas here..?
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 15:39:47 (permalink)
Well geez... now I look like the thread's resident jerk.

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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 15:45:22 (permalink)
notnat
  
it's all in fun, right..? 

Zactly!!!
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 15:51:22 (permalink)
notnat


bapu


notnat

I for one, would would be very interested in hearing a selection from your "usual songs"... because I'm tired of Bapu's/Coffee House Collaborators/Forum Monkeys/Straumpu & The CHC tripe



  
Can we do that..? I knew it was common practice to edit out sections of quotes... but adding your own thoughts & words, seems unethical at best, and possibly a TOS violation
Sorry Frank, 


I thought I was in the Coffee House. It's de-rigor(mortis) there.


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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 15:59:51 (permalink)
Yes, you do get around...
 
I hear you own the place...
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 16:23:12 (permalink)
Anyone who participates in this forum better have a thick skin or slow burning point.

 
I dunno Lynn...do you really think it's a necessity? I mean, being realistic in this...
 
You comment on just about every song here. You've never been out of line to anyone even if they posted something that wasn't very good. Sometimes I wish you'd be a little more tough on a few people..lol...but it's all good. :) You've made suggestions and offered advice when you felt the need, and for the most part, other than a few guys, those are the types of responses I see on the forum by the majority. That's how it SHOULD be in my opinion. So you're a great example of good critiques.
 
With that said, there shouldn't be a need to have thick skin. Even if a big mouth like me posts a comment, I NEVER get harsh on anyone. It's rare, other than when someone may deserve it. Like Pete (to me) deserves the exact smack-down James gave him. I too was astonished that everyone was praising him for this after how he's treated others. That said, if the tune was collosal, even though I don't think too much of the guy, I'd praise him to myself without telling him simply because he's not a very nice person to anyone on here. My belief is, Pete is one of us posing as a smart alec using a different name.
 
But all things considered, I don't think anyone needs to hear harsh critiques from anyone really. It helps no one to lash out and say mean things to a person. Like there are certain guys on here I won't go into detail with. I know they are hobby guys and really aren't trying to be great engineers. In other situations, I know people welcome the novels I may post about their production in hopes of helping them.
 
There was one guy on here that really had a tude thinking his material was all that. It's fine when we believe in ourselves, but this one individual was talking like he was higher than the rest of us...and his material sounded like it was 1000 steps below us. So yeah, I ripped into the dude. It got on my nerves...what can I say? LOL! To me, someone like that needs that sort of treatment...especially when they bash on others like they are gifted and don't deliver the goods themselves.
 
So thick skin.....nah, we shouldn't need it for here. But in the big leagues, yeah....different ball game. When you have arm chair wannabe music writers that cut their hair and had to give up on music to find a real job hating themselves for doing so, it makes them cranky and they review music with a chip on their shoulder. All the while, wishing it was them that was releasing music instead. They are so harsh it makes you wonder if they even listened to your album...now there, you need thick skin. But here...I sure don't believe anyone should have to. But that's just my opinion. :)
 
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 17:05:09 (permalink)
Danny, you read my mind and posted a more complete version of what I was thinking.  I agree with you, especially about the speculation that Pete is a pseudonym for someone else here.  As for the thick skin; there are many here with paper egos, who are easily offended by the most innocuous critique and either don't get it or go away hurt or mad.  It shouldn't be that way, but it is what it is.  The X2 forum is a case in point.  


Yes, pros should be able to handle criticism with dignity and grace, but they don't always do.  Amateurs (like myself) are the ones we're trying to reach and  teach.  I was just hoping by my comments to find a more civil tone than what the OP sometimes dishes out.  As you can tell by all the comments here that PP has struck a raw nerve with several people; some of whom are so good that they shouldn't be bothered by anything he says.  But, the points you make are entirely valid and relevant.  Nuff said.
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Anyone who participates in this forum better have a thick skin or slow burning point.

 
I dunno Lynn...do you really think it's a necessity? I mean, being realistic in this...
 
You comment on just about every song here. You've never been out of line to anyone even if they posted something that wasn't very good. Sometimes I wish you'd be a little more tough on a few people..lol...but it's all good. :) You've made suggestions and offered advice when you felt the need, and for the most part, other than a few guys, those are the types of responses I see on the forum by the majority. That's how it SHOULD be in my opinion. So you're a great example of good critiques.
 
With that said, there shouldn't be a need to have thick skin. Even if a big mouth like me posts a comment, I NEVER get harsh on anyone. It's rare, other than when someone may deserve it. Like Pete (to me) deserves the exact smack-down James gave him. I too was astonished that everyone was praising him for this after how he's treated others. That said, if the tune was collosal, even though I don't think too much of the guy, I'd praise him to myself without telling him simply because he's not a very nice person to anyone on here. My belief is, Pete is one of us posing as a smart alec using a different name.
 
But all things considered, I don't think anyone needs to hear harsh critiques from anyone really. It helps no one to lash out and say mean things to a person. Like there are certain guys on here I won't go into detail with. I know they are hobby guys and really aren't trying to be great engineers. In other situations, I know people welcome the novels I may post about their production in hopes of helping them.
 
There was one guy on here that really had a tude thinking his material was all that. It's fine when we believe in ourselves, but this one individual was talking like he was higher than the rest of us...and his material sounded like it was 1000 steps below us. So yeah, I ripped into the dude. It got on my nerves...what can I say? LOL! To me, someone like that needs that sort of treatment...especially when they bash on others like they are gifted and don't deliver the goods themselves.
 
So thick skin.....nah, we shouldn't need it for here. But in the big leagues, yeah....different ball game. When you have arm chair wannabe music writers that cut their hair and had to give up on music to find a real job hating themselves for doing so, it makes them cranky and they review music with a chip on their shoulder. All the while, wishing it was them that was releasing music instead. They are so harsh it makes you wonder if they even listened to your album...now there, you need thick skin. But here...I sure don't believe anyone should have to. But that's just my opinion. :)
 
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 17:14:41 (permalink)
Lynn


 there are many here with paper egos, who are easily offended by the most innocuous critique and either don't get it or go away hurt or mad.  It shouldn't be that way, but it is what it is.  The X2 forum is a case in point.  


Yes, pros should be able to handle criticism with dignity and grace, but they don't always do.  Amateurs (like myself) are the ones we're trying to reach and  teach.  I was just hoping by my comments to find a more civil tone than what the OP sometimes dishes out.  As you can tell by all the comments here that PP has struck a raw nerve with several people; some of whom are so good that they shouldn't be bothered by anything he says.  


Well said Lynn... I agree... people are funny... 
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 18:29:18 (permalink)
   I can certainly not defend Pete's behavior, he was mine and many of the GT users shadow for years here giving constant reminders of our suckage. I don't for a minute believe all of Pete's recent nasty critiques were honest.
 I'm sorry if my honest evaluation has offended anyone but after listening again. I guess I still like it. Retro sounding...well so am I, I like retro.  Needs work, that I would agree with but if Rap were intended to be in there, wouldn't you want the rap artist to do his part before it got too busy? That's how I've worked it with the few Christian HH guys I've made some beats for at work. 

I made the pledge several years ago that if PP ever posted a song I would be honest. I don't think acting like a PP in the songs forum would be the right thing for me to do just because he does. I use to really let his behavior affect my mood..I'm not going there anymore. Shad has a great point and I'm going with his idea with some revisions..I've had my weapon drawn for 6 years. I'm tired of this war. I'm giving up and praying for the day the occupation ends or he finally learns to play nice. 

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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 18:53:43 (permalink)
It look like u have to post more songs to convince every to 100% of what I can read - so please do - I liked this one.
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 19:30:47 (permalink)
Danny makes a very good point.

In my first few mixes I had thin skin for sure. I remember "arguing" with Beagle extensively. 

With time I've grown to accept (99.9785% of the time) at face value as "opinion". Danny has the remaining .0215% reserved for "fact".


What I tend to do is consider that if 2 or 3 (or more) say essentially the same thing, it is probably something worthwhile considering while weighing all the other comments in too.


Can I still misread something and be offended? Heck YEAH!!!! But I do try and think before I act and do the best I can to NOT reply through the eyes (and ears) of hurt and anger. 


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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 20:11:03 (permalink)
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James,

I believe EVERYTHING cannot be exceptional, fresh, different or interesting else how would we judge/grade? A bell curve must exist in any art form, IMHO. This forum needs entries like this and mine so that rest of you guys and gals can really stand out.

Just my $0.02US.

True enough. But that doesn't then allow me to call it crap?
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 20:14:37 (permalink)
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   I can certainly not defend Pete's behavior, he was mine and many of the GT users shadow for years here giving constant reminders of our suckage. I don't for a minute believe all of Pete's recent nasty critiques were honest.
 I'm sorry if my honest evaluation has offended anyone but after listening again. I guess I still like it. Retro sounding...well so am I, I like retro.  Needs work, that I would agree with but if Rap were intended to be in there, wouldn't you want the rap artist to do his part before it got too busy? That's how I've worked it with the few Christian HH guys I've made some beats for at work. 

I made the pledge several years ago that if PP ever posted a song I would be honest. I don't think acting like a PP in the songs forum would be the right thing for me to do just because he does. I use to really let his behavior affect my mood..I'm not going there anymore. Shad has a great point and I'm going with his idea with some revisions..I've had my weapon drawn for 6 years. I'm tired of this war. I'm giving up and praying for the day the occupation ends or he finally learns to play nice. 
Grant, I surely did not intend to besmirch anyone's opinion of this track...just an expression of astonishment at the utter blandness of it getting such praise, especially to a guy who deserved a ton of junk thrown his way. Almost like folks are bending over backwards as a pointed difference to PP's usual slogging.

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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 20:18:58 (permalink)
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Danny, you read my mind and posted a more complete version of what I was thinking.  YAs you can tell by all the comments here that PP has struck a raw nerve with several people; some of whom are so good that they shouldn't be bothered by anything he says.  
TBH, I really don't think PP has ever really torn into my tunes. However, I am really ticked off at how insulting he has been to some of my forum friends here.
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 20:27:50 (permalink)
I appreciate Pistol's posts. Not his music, if it is his music (so far).
Sort of another texture to the forum.

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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 20:36:49 (permalink)
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 I can certainly not defend Pete's behavior, he was mine and many of the GT users shadow for years here giving constant reminders of our suckage. I don't for a minute believe all of Pete's recent nasty critiques were honest.
I'm sorry if my honest evaluation has offended anyone but after listening again. I guess I still like it. Retro sounding...well so am I, I like retro.  Needs work, that I would agree with but if Rap were intended to be in there, wouldn't you want the rap artist to do his part before it got too busy? That's how I've worked it with the few Christian HH guys I've made some beats for at work. 

I made the pledge several years ago that if PP ever posted a song I would be honest. I don't think acting like a PP in the songs forum would be the right thing for me to do just because he does. I use to really let his behavior affect my mood..I'm not going there anymore. Shad has a great point and I'm going with his idea with some revisions..I've had my weapon drawn for 6 years. I'm tired of this war. I'm giving up and praying for the day the occupation ends or he finally learns to play nice. 
Grant, I surely did not intend to besmirch anyone's opinion of this track...just an expression of astonishment at the utter blandness of it getting such praise, especially to a guy who deserved a ton of junk thrown his way. Almost like folks are bending over backwards as a pointed difference to PP's usual slogging.

 I can certainly understand and respect you and Danny's frustration even though I haven't seen many of his newer posts. I have a real good idea of the content
 In a way a think I share a bit of responsibility for what he's become. I guess I helped train the varmint and have received and delivered more broadsides than any naval fleet in history. As far as a thick skin I bet you could stick darts in him by now and he'll like it.
Like in Star Trek, it feeds off of negative vibes. Not going there no mo :)
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Re:By Popular Demand 2013/02/14 20:52:31 (permalink)
>When you have arm chair wannabe music writers that cut their hair and had to give up on music to find a real job hating themselves for doing so, it makes them cranky and they review music with a chip on their shoulder. All the while, wishing it was them that was releasing music instead.

I feel so... so... EXPOSED at the moment.

Hope no one see through me now.
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