spacey
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CAKEWALK ! Thank You!
I appreciate you taking care of that. I hope folks with the know-how can do something about stuff like that.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 08:38:19
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/03/04 10:04:20
I've thought this too, in the past, from time to time as I watch spammers come in to the forums and post all sorts of junk.
However, while I could possibly agree to that requirement, that folks be a registered user, I also have seen so many folks come to the forums to ask questions of the users here before they buy the product. Folks just wanting to be sure that Cakewalk's product line will work for their intended purposes.
How would you suggest those folks be accommodated?
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spacey
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 08:51:21
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/03/04 10:04:22
Cake better be a hell of lot more concerned about the people that do buy their product.
Those that don't own it can download a free trial version. If that doesn't tell them enough then they're to
stupid to use it anyway and end up loading the forums with their dumb-ass questions. We know that's a fact.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 11:01:26
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☼ Best Answerby spacey 2014/03/04 17:21:58
Guitarhacker
I've thought this too, in the past, from time to time as I watch spammers come in to the forums and post all sorts of junk.
However, while I could possibly agree to that requirement, that folks be a registered user, I also have seen so many folks come to the forums to ask questions of the users here before they buy the product. Folks just wanting to be sure that Cakewalk's product line will work for their intended purposes.
How would you suggest those folks be accommodated?
Simple. You have ONE forum that is open to "Guest" questions (and heavily watched by moderators - not hard if there's only one forum to keep an eye on). All others are read-only unless you have a registered product (so people can still search and hopefully find any answers they're looking for).
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 11:03:53
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☄ Helpfulby spacey 2014/03/06 09:09:56
craigb
Guitarhacker
I've thought this too, in the past, from time to time as I watch spammers come in to the forums and post all sorts of junk.
However, while I could possibly agree to that requirement, that folks be a registered user, I also have seen so many folks come to the forums to ask questions of the users here before they buy the product. Folks just wanting to be sure that Cakewalk's product line will work for their intended purposes.
How would you suggest those folks be accommodated?
Simple. You have ONE forum that is open to "Guest" questions (and heavily watched by moderators - not hard if there's only one forum to keep an eye on). All others are read-only unless you have a registered product (so people can still search and hopefully find any answers they're looking for).
I really like this idea. and it's very "do-able" I've resisted forum restrictions to registered users before because I would not have become a cakewalk customer if I had to have registered software FIRST. but this idea would solve both problems.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 11:18:57
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With two forums there is only ONE BIG QUESTION.......
Which Juan would my posts be transferred to?
OK two questions....
Where does the FSF go?
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 11:45:44
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Not two, but one open to the public and the rest open to registered user bickering and unfunny posts. 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 11:47:07
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craigb
Not two, but one open to the public and the rest open to registered user bickering and unfunny posts.
roight! only registered users could see, read, and post to the one for registered users - anyone could post to the public one
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 12:43:40
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Well perhaps they just need an enhancement to the forum program that would block out a certain IP address. (after the first time).
??
Can't have Freedom then if everything has to be shut down. It is an inherent fault of computers I guess we all have to live with.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 12:45:44
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that's pretty much standard on all forums - to be able to block IP addresses.
however, that's a REACTIVE fix, not a PREEMPTIVE fix.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 18:11:20
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Beagle
that's pretty much standard on all forums - to be able to block IP addresses.
however, that's a REACTIVE fix, not a PREEMPTIVE fix.
There's a website the keeps the names & IP's of known spammers. It's easy to check someone new against the website and simple to submit new spammer names & IP's to keep their database up-to-date. Some of the newest forum softwares can evidently auto-check this though I haven't been on a forum that does this yet.
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 18:13:36
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2014/03/04 18:54:07
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Is 3 enough?
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 18:34:14
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CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
You don't like the grid in SONAR?
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 20:17:08
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2014/03/04 21:03:02
soens
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Is 3 enough?
bapu
CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
You don't like the grid in SONAR?
I'm glad I don't know you guys. I was very upset about a disgusting post. Then you try to make fun of the way I say it. That's not funny, it's insulting. But Cake finally removed the post and member...glad it's done.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 20:43:04
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spacey
Cake better be a hell of lot more concerned about the people that do buy their product
Really. Let me know when they start. If you bought it, you're already assimilated and don't matter anymore. They want new blood, new money. Haven't you noticed? Maybe it's the Comcast business plan.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 21:07:17
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spacey
Cake better be a hell of lot more concerned about the people that do buy their product
Really. Let me know when they start.
If you bought it, you're already assimilated and don't matter anymore.
They want new blood, new money.
Haven't you noticed?
Maybe it's the Comcast business plan.
Have I noticed? Yes. But the money end of doing business with Cake is nothing. Ethics is worth so much more and in my eyes that has been a big loss suffered by more than the people working at Cake. It's not unknown by many members that a lot of good people have left...what I think, is that a lot of people aren't sure why and that really is the easy part....and it's not about money.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 21:28:09
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So we're suggesting a sub-basement, a lower level even than the CH? And then invite the world in? That would be a neighborhood I wouldn't want to visit after dark.
I still like the distributed moderation solution. Let anybody with more than, say, 17,815 posts move a thread to the sub-basement dungeon. If any such users proved themselves unworthy of that power, such as dumping anything they considered "unfunny" down there, their post counts could be zeroed out in retaliation.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 23:16:56
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It's unlikely that CW will create any restrictions on the forum. The reason the forum was started in the first place (aside from user-to-user support) was to increase the customer user base, so CW probably isn't going to want to restrict people from interacting here.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/04 23:58:09
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Ruben
It's unlikely that CW will create any restrictions on the forum. The reason the forum was started in the first place (aside from user-to-user support) was to increase the customer user base, so CW probably isn't going to want to restrict people from interacting here.
Ah, still a bit embarrassed about getting that kitchen remodel and buying that psychic spell, eh?
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 00:13:36
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bitflipper
I still like the distributed moderation solution. Let anybody with more than, say, 17,815 posts ....
Wow, you know your post count. I haven't looked at mine.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 01:40:34
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bitflipper
I still like the disturbed moderation solution.
Things are clearly getting out of hand when you start recommending things like this...
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 02:59:33
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Not sure if this forum software supports stricter validation process, otherwise have a pre-signup process before the actual forum signup for new members, a 2-step process -- This would then require 'Valid' home address, phone number, additional phone number (mobile/cell - optional) and zip code. Then allow 24 hours for process and the first 30 posts can only be posted in a "New Members Support and Pre-Sales Questions Forum" with a St(r)icky- Topic explaining why -- (Spammers and Trolls).
Also, The link to the forum is too clearly labelled as;' Cakewalk Forums', {uh oh} what about being a little more discreet -- List the link to these forums under another link-header >> {next Page} >> List of Options and oh yeah included in that list is a more discreet title = '{Title}-Signup' (NOT titled: Cakewalk Forums) however, only existing and new customers who have purchased Cakewalk product(s) will receive Emails with a more direct link.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 03:22:07
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did the witch doctor have a spell for removing unwanted spam from forums?
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 06:03:58
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Ruben
It's unlikely that CW will create any restrictions on the forum. The reason the forum was started in the first place (aside from user-to-user support) was to increase the customer user base, so CW probably isn't going to want to restrict people from interacting here.
So why have a TOS? Why have moderators? It's obvious what happens when controls aren't used. Right now the place is flooded with idiots (no I'm not talking about you that still attempt "wit" and "humor"- I'm in favor of practice...although there is a time and place for that so the performance is maybe better) and embarrassing examples of how they control; Bub is banded but I never heard him make perverted comments toward children as that freak in Jbows thread- and that ass is still active. For those that care and are paying attention this place has become a ****hole. Yeah it bothers me but until Cake gets their act together...I'm done. Fortunately this BS is something I do have control over.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 06:56:18
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craigb
There's a website the keeps the names & IP's of known spammers. It's easy to check someone new against the website and simple to submit new spammer names & IP's to keep their database up-to-date. Some of the newest forum softwares can evidently auto-check this though I haven't been on a forum that does this yet.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 08:20:23
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spacey ...
It's time that Cake requires that a poster has to have a registered Cakewalk product before they can post.
... Are you implying that a Cake/Sonar owner is not a spammer, or would never spam? On to the next story in our newscast, Homer is putting on DREAM ON and says that it is his theme song for a minute!
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 09:30:54
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craigb
Guitarhacker
I've thought this too, in the past, from time to time as I watch spammers come in to the forums and post all sorts of junk.
However, while I could possibly agree to that requirement, that folks be a registered user, I also have seen so many folks come to the forums to ask questions of the users here before they buy the product. Folks just wanting to be sure that Cakewalk's product line will work for their intended purposes.
How would you suggest those folks be accommodated?
Simple. You have ONE forum that is open to "Guest" questions (and heavily watched by moderators - not hard if there's only one forum to keep an eye on). All others are read-only unless you have a registered product (so people can still search and hopefully find any answers they're looking for).
Gets my vote Craig.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 09:38:03
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timidi
spacey
Cake better be a hell of lot more concerned about the people that do buy their product
Really. Let me know when they start.
If you bought it, you're already assimilated and don't matter anymore.
They want new blood, new money.
Haven't you noticed?
Maybe it's the Comcast business plan.
Not to mention the IK Multimedia business plan.....it seems like this is the Big Business modus operandi.
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 10:03:42
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timidi
spacey
Cake better be a hell of lot more concerned about the people that do buy their product
Really. Let me know when they start.
If you bought it, you're already assimilated and don't matter anymore.
They want new blood, new money.
Haven't you noticed?
Maybe it's the Comcast business plan.
Not to mention the IK Multimedia business plan.....it seems like this is the Big Business modus operandi.
When is SampleTank 3 coming out? Let's ask Obi. Oh yeah - is he considered a spammer by definition of the TOS? [evil grin]
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Re: CAKEWALK ! Lines need to be drawn..
2014/03/05 10:09:16
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Beagle
Mesh
timidi
spacey
Cake better be a hell of lot more concerned about the people that do buy their product
Really. Let me know when they start.
If you bought it, you're already assimilated and don't matter anymore.
They want new blood, new money.
Haven't you noticed?
Maybe it's the Comcast business plan.
Not to mention the IK Multimedia business plan.....it seems like this is the Big Business modus operandi.
When is SampleTank 3 coming out? Let's ask Obi. Oh yeah - is he considered a spammer by definition of the TOS?
[evil grin]
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